Caught on Camera: "Paranaque Airplane Crash"

[ghosthunter]

Caught on Camera: "Paranaque Airplane Crash" (Dec 10 2011)

[oj88]

I haven't read much news about it since I saw a partial airing of the crash last week. It obviously stalled. But is it due to engine trouble? The engine seems to be sputtering.

It was flying way too slow, IMO. Though I'm not sure whether the pilot initiated the turn and/or the left wing lost its lift then eventually stalled and spiraled to its doom.

[Monseratto]

The plane was probably struggling on one engine and lost lift when it banked to turn. It dropped like a rock. One of the reason why NAIA couldn't get out of it's FAA Cat 2 is the high density structures around the airport.

[Jiggs]

Di ba most twin engine plane could still able to fly and land safely even with just a single engine running?...from the video one of the engines is still roaring Yung left engine prang nag die out na tlaga kase from the video the blades are not turning na..though parang napakabagal na tlaga nya and eventually lost lift na.. Anong direction kaya to heading? Kung south eastely to heading sana tumbok nya is Laguna lake, maybe kung hindi na nagexecute ng turning maneuver baka sa lake sila nagcrash landing..My condololence to the families of the personnel that perished in that crash.

Was in Busuanga airport a couple of years ago and nainterview ko pa yung mga pilot ng mga ganyan small light plane..they usually carry live (sleep induced) fish from Palawan to Manila.

[renzo_d10]

Holy f...

RIP to the casualties. Sayang hindi pa umabot ng Pasko.

[roninblade]

Di ba most twin engine plane could still able to fly and land safely even with just a single engine running?...from the video one of the engines is still roaring Yung left engine prang nag die out na tlaga kase from the video the blades are not turning na..though parang napakabagal na tlaga nya and eventually lost lift na.. Anong direction kaya to heading? Kung south eastely to heading sana tumbok nya is Laguna lake, maybe kung hindi na nagexecute ng turning maneuver baka sa lake sila nagcrash landing..My condololence to the families of the personnel that perished in that crash.

Was in Busuanga airport a couple of years ago and nainterview ko pa yung mga pilot ng mga ganyan small light plane..they usually carry live (sleep induced) fish from Palawan to Manila.

yeah, planes can still fly on just one engine. i'm not an expert but it looks like the pilot shouldn't have banked since there was hardly any lift on the wing with the failed engine, causing the plane to roll and crash in an instant. maybe should've steered with just the rudder.

[Jiggs]

According to the news..there is an ongoing investigation and one angle they were lookin at is Human Error... Though it's not meant for blaming the deceased pilots but to gain for learning from Incidents such as will make other pilots more aware.

One thing I also notice from the news clippings most if not all of the recent accidents in airport are all from small aircraft. From my past observation..mostly this small chartered plane service ang discipline ng pilots are not par with the established Airline company. Sa mga past flights as passenger ko naobserve ko na hindi ganun sila ka diligent sa pre and post flight checklist..I still remember..Hindi ko na lang imention ang particular Aircraft company...sabi ng pilot nun naka- in na kaming lahat sa plane.." Ayos na kompleto na!! lets go na pare.." and off we flew ni halos wlang preflight checklist akong nakita na ginawa ng pilot at co-pilot. I knew kase am just sitting behind them and the curtain were not closed. Since then am always wary kapag fixed wing ang flight namin.

[SiRbossR]

^i just want to clarify, all of us ride on FIXED wing aircrafts. The other type is the Rotary wing which are heli's.

[SiRbossR]

Di ba most twin engine plane could still able to fly and land safely even with just a single engine running?...from the video one of the engines is still roaring Yung left engine prang nag die out na tlaga kase from the video the blades are not turning na..though parang napakabagal na tlaga nya and eventually lost lift na.. Anong direction kaya to heading? Kung south eastely to heading sana tumbok nya is Laguna lake, maybe kung hindi na nagexecute ng turning maneuver baka sa lake sila nagcrash landing..My condololence to the families of the personnel that perished in that crash.

Was in Busuanga airport a couple of years ago and nainterview ko pa yung mga pilot ng mga ganyan small light plane..they usually carry live (sleep induced) fish from Palawan to Manila.

There is this famous line in every hangar, "A properly maintained Aircraft is a Safe Aircraft."

From my observation of the video, the aircraft basically lacked in Air speed. Whether one of the engine died, the most important thing to notice is the plane banked steeply without sufficient air speed and altitude resulting the plane to stall.

The two engines installed on the light aircraft were Reciprocating engines in a horizontally opposed configuration having 6 cylinders each(same in cars like Subarus and Porsches). Iam not sure whether the engines are made by Lycoming of Continental but, these type of engines really really heavy though engineered to light weight but compared to car engines due to its composition and material which is i believe made fully of cast-iron makes it heavy. The maintenance on these type of engine are very very delicate and a lot of times needs preventive maintenance checks. Common problems for these old engines are burnt valves and oil escaping to the combustion chamber occuring even in newly overhauled engines. Though these engines are very powerful and really dependable, you will need high maintenance in regard of efficiency and safety.

OT:
I know a company that flies to palawan and get some fresh seafoods there and brings it back here in Manila. Most people do this.

[SiRbossR]

I just wish that things like these won't happen anymore.

from December 10, 2011 back to December 10, 2010, all that have handled(pilots,mechanics) the aircraft that crashed will have their licenses frozen by the CAAP for a year or so while all of them will be under investigation.

[Jiggs]

It's a wake up call...kung pwede nga lang silang i report ala XXX or Imbestigador, some pilots are not really doing what it's suppose to do..the flight safety checklist. As I've mentioned been a witnessed to a couple of them of differrent chartered services. Kaya nga much kampante pa ko pag sa Helis ang flights kase they really are diligent on maintenance and pre/post-flight checks. In 2003 was also a passenger in a heliflight that encounter main gearbox problem and with properly trained pilots doing all the emergency procedures with Handbook on hand (co-pilot) we safely landed somewhere in Nasugbu and to think we had encountered it for seems an eternity...more than 10mins away from nearest land. What am saying is kapag properly trained pilots and properly maintained aircraft...this had been proven that Air transport is much safer than any land mode of transportation.. Aircraft company had its shares of properly maintaning it's fleet and Pilots must adhere to their sworned Safety on Air credo.

[ChunkyLover]

mukang kulang speed niya while turning kaya nag stall...

[Retz]

sira ba talaga ang left engine? pilot error or is it engine mulfunction?

[ghosthunter]

sira ba talaga ang left engine? pilot error or is it engine mulfunction?

Lets watch the video again...

[Retz]

Lets watch the video again...

okay sir gh. I heard from the radio earlier this morning that the pilot is a novice and hasn't achieved the required training hours. Can a veteran pilot reverse the outcome?

[ghosthunter]

okay sir gh. I heard from the radio earlier this morning that the pilot is a novice and hasn't achieved the required training hours. Can a veteran pilot reverse the outcome?

A veteran pilot would have known better than try to turn the plane at that slow speed.

[oliver1013]

Damn that's why I hate flying...tuwing sumasakay ako eroplano tinutulog ko nalang..napapraning ako eh

[greatauror28]

ang galing naman ng nag video. how did he?/she? knew that something will happen to the plane?
why did he/she filmed it in the first place? just curious..

[roninblade]

ang galing naman ng nag video. how did he?/she? knew that something will happen to the plane?
why did he/she filmed it in the first place? just curious..

i read (i forgot where) that the person was just tripping taking videos of all the planes flying over.

[vinj]

i read (i forgot where) that the person was just tripping taking videos of all the planes flying over.

Yep, before that particular, ill-fated plane came into view, it was focused at another plane far away if i recall correctly.

One main reason why NAIA should be moved away from the city is this, statistics on air accidents show that a lot occur during take-off and landing and during this period, planes are flying over the heavily populated Metro Manila areas (QC, Paranaque, Taguig).