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    #10121
    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Naka CGNAT yung residential plans ng Converge. Kay PLDT, hindi (pa).

    Ibig sabihin, you don't have a unique public IP accessible to the world when you are using converge residential plans, whereas sa PLDT, you are assigned a unique public IP.

    You need a business plan kay converge to get a public IP.
    so, what does this mean? isang device lang pwedeng magkaron ng internet sa bahay mo? because the way i see it all of your devices will be given an ip coming from the router right?


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    #10122
    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    so, what does this mean? isang device lang pwedeng magkaron ng internet sa bahay mo? because the way i see it all of your devices will be given an ip coming from the router right?


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    That's local ip. Iba pa yung public or private ip. If you look at the properties of your network on your device you'll see something like 192.168.x.x, that's your local device ip. But when you google "what's my ip" you'll see the public ip assigned to you, different from the local ip.

    If you do the "whets my ip" search to all your device at home, you'll see their public ip are the same, pero iba iba local ip nila.

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    #10123
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pwede gamit smartphone kahit sa abroad kayo?


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    Yes... my bro in law can view cctv in their house using pldt...


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    #10124
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ewan ko basta sabi private IP daw sila or something. I can't access my cameras using data. Dapat same network (wifi) so it defeated the purpose of having CCTV cameras.




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    bro try mo pakita sa kanila ito.
    Free DDNS Setup for IP Cameras and NVR DVR Recorders / CCTV Camera World, Experts in Security Camera Systems

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    #10125
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Yes... my bro in law can view cctv in their house using pldt...


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    I'm currintlg using PLDT ultera for our CCTV and I can view it with no issues. Kahit sa US pa kami. But I like to transfer to converge sana for our CCTV but they told me, it won't work in their system.


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    #10126
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I'm currintlg using PLDT ultera for our CCTV and I can view it with no issues. Kahit sa US pa kami. But I like to transfer to converge sana for our CCTV but they told me, it won't work in their system.


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    bakit nila nasabi na di gagana sa fibre? LTE yan subscription mo bro diba? afaik may times na di naman public ip ang gamit nila, so switching to fibre should be OK.

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    #10127
    ^
    Port forwarding may not be enabled on their modem / router.



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    #10128
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    bakit nila nasabi na di gagana sa fibre? LTE yan subscription mo bro diba? afaik may times na di naman public ip ang gamit nila, so switching to fibre should be OK.
    Sa converge ko gusto ilipat for our CCTV.


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    #10129
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    ^
    Port forwarding may not be enabled on their modem / router.



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    hmm ano kaya workaround?
    sa tito kasi (dala ng katamaran ko), team viewer nalang sa isang PC the team viewer sa android :D
    di rin naman nya ginagamit kasi nakaktamad daw dahil mabagal ^_^

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    #10130
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    That's local ip. Iba pa yung public or private ip. If you look at the properties of your network on your device you'll see something like 192.168.x.x, that's your local device ip. But when you google "what's my ip" you'll see the public ip assigned to you, different from the local ip.

    If you do the "whets my ip" search to all your device at home, you'll see their public ip are the same, pero iba iba local ip nila.

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    this is pldt and globe's system right? so anong iniba ni converge?


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    #10131
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    OIC
    hmm ano kaya workaround?
    sa tito kasi (dala ng katamaran ko), team viewer nalang sa isang PC the team viewer sa android :D
    di rin naman nya ginagamit kasi nakaktamad daw dahil mabagal ^_^
    Trial and error lang. Sa pldt modem, di na maaccess ang admin for port fprwardong function. Sa globe pwede pa.
    Yun nga lang costly since may lockup period.

    Ayos yan na via team viewer. Napaka simple. UPS lang para pangontra sa sandaling brownout.
    Sa mga sulyap sulyap, ok na yan since di naman 24 hours naka titig sa cctv.

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    #10132
    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    this is pldt and globe's system right? so anong iniba ni converge?


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    oo nga para ang ngyari na diverge pa lalo

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    #10133
    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    this is pldt and globe's system right? so anong iniba ni converge?


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    They are practically the same. Converge was just the first one to bring fiber delivery to the masses. (I know pldt was the real first one to delvier fiber but they are on a targetted approach, mostly highend subs).


    They will deliver a sevice, and your home devices network will use private. The isp gateway that will be shown on whatsmyip resides on the isp provider edge device.

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    #10134
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    They are practically the same. Converge was just the first one to bring fiber delivery to the masses. (I know pldt was the real first one to delvier fiber but they are on a targetted approach, mostly highend subs).


    They will deliver a sevice, and your home devices network will use private. The isp gateway that will be shown on whatsmyip resides on the isp provider edge device.

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    So tama sila hinde pwede yun existing IP cemeras ko?


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    #10135
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So tama sila hinde pwede yun existing IP cemeras ko?


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    The true reason might be because they dont have port forwarding on their modem/router.

    But if they say it wont work, i guess you just need to trust their word even if we are always skeptical.
    Gayahin mo na lang ginawa ni ninja via teamviewer. Hehehe

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    #10136
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So tama sila hinde pwede yun existing IP cemeras ko?


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    im 99% on PWEDE bro kahit di ko forte yan. like what chronicle said trial and error, im sure may workaround yan hindi pwedeng wala. what if may client sila and fibre lang internet? sa canada clients na namin, yun cctv provider ang atat na atat ilipat sa fibre ang system nila eh.

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    #10137
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    im 99% on PWEDE bro kahit di ko forte yan. like what chronicle said trial and error, im sure may workaround yan hindi pwedeng wala. what if may client sila and fibre lang internet? sa canada clients na namin, yun cctv provider ang atat na atat ilipat sa fibre ang system nila eh.
    Either dynamic or static IP lang naman mahkkatalo diba? Kasi meron naman settings yun CCTV ko na pwede set yun IP na makukuha niya either static or dynamic.


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    #10138
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    im 99% on PWEDE bro kahit di ko forte yan. like what chronicle said trial and error, im sure may workaround yan hindi pwedeng wala. what if may client sila and fibre lang internet? sa canada clients na namin, yun cctv provider ang atat na atat ilipat sa fibre ang system nila eh.
    so pera pera pa din ang usapan? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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    Actually few months back approved na application mo sa converge and just need to pay for the installation fee but when I called their tech hinde mga daw pwede so cancelled the application.




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    #10140
    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    so, what does this mean? isang device lang pwedeng magkaron ng internet sa bahay mo? because the way i see it all of your devices will be given an ip coming from the router right?


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    No. You are still free to use your own router. Something like this

    No CGNAT (PLDT as of now):
    Internet --> Your Public IP the world sees is assigned to your router --> Your devices
    If you want ports open, you can, kasi you control the only router in the setup.

    Under CGNAT (CONVERGE residential plans):
    Internet --> Your Public IP the world sees is assigned to CONVERGE's "router" --> Your Private IP assigned to your router (NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE WORLD) --> your devices
    You CANNOT have ports open. Your public IP is shared amongst converge's customer base.
    Think of it as a router in front of your router, and you have no access to the first router, hence no port forwarding of any type.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    im 99% on PWEDE bro kahit di ko forte yan. like what chronicle said trial and error, im sure may workaround yan hindi pwedeng wala. what if may client sila and fibre lang internet? sa canada clients na namin, yun cctv provider ang atat na atat ilipat sa fibre ang system nila eh.
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Either dynamic or static IP lang naman mahkkatalo diba? Kasi meron naman settings yun CCTV ko na pwede set yun IP na makukuha niya either static or dynamic.


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    You can still access the CCTV IF may server yung CCTV provider that your home setup can connect to, parang teamviewer.

    Pero if didiretso ka via IP address / static IP or dynamic IP, will NOT work.

    Walang workaround unless may kilala ka sa loob ng converge engineering team that will make an exception for you. or if you sign up for a business plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Actually few months back approved na application mo sa converge and just need to pay for the installation fee but when I called their tech hinde mga daw pwede so cancelled the application.
    For CCTV, you really must insist on having a PUBLIC & unique IP address
    Last edited by mda; November 4th, 2018 at 10:05 AM.

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