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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by xwangbu View Post
    the prepper here has his own doomsday bunker:

    American Blackout | National Geographic Channel

    with stock fuel.
    wish I could afford (time + money) to have something like that sa PH.

    You dont need an underground bunk for most purposes. Just fortify your existing home by either hardening or reinforcing all possible entry points. Hardening meaning making it very difficult to enter like iron bars across windows. Then make doors stronger that it will withstand attacks.

    But if you have a genset, make sure it's secure and maybe "stealth". Silent and have the exhaust pipe buried underground and maybe piped into the sewage system to help dissipate the exhaust.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; December 17th, 2013 at 12:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post

    But if you have a genset, make sure it's secure and maybe "stealth". Silent and have the exhaust pipe buried underground and maybe piped into the sewage system to help dissipate the exhaust.
    good idea ah! and kill all the rats in the street drain by carbon dioxide poisoning at the same time! kaya lang dapat sigurado na hindi babalik yung fumes sa bahay, the drain line in the laundry area and kitchen floor goes to the street drain kasi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    good idea ah! and kill all the rats in the street drain by carbon dioxide poisoning at the same time! kaya lang dapat sigurado na hindi babalik yung fumes sa bahay, the drain line in the laundry area and kitchen floor goes to the street drain kasi.

    You can add a fan to the exhaust to force more air into the pipes to prevent back flow.

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    #24
    I'm a prepper. It's part of my lifestyle and my immediate family. I'm prepping for any type of calamity, natural or man made. My main concern is earthquake.

    I carry with me this EDC kit at all times


    Each of my family member have their own EDC kit with just the basics.

    In all our cars, we have BOB, camping gear, communication equipment, guns, food and water enough for 72 hours.

    Our house have redundant equipments/supplies and can last us a long time but since we are in an urban area, my goal is to get out of the city quick in an emergency situation.

    I have two suburban properties outside of CA (NV and AZ)Both are possible bug out locations and can sustain my family's survival for at least two months off the grid.

    Firearms and ammo, I have a lot. I am trained and so is my family.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    I'm a prepper. It's part of my lifestyle and my immediate family. I'm prepping for any type of calamity, natural or man made. My main concern is earthquake.

    I carry with me this EDC kit at all times


    Each of my family member have their own EDC kit with just the basics.

    In all our cars, we have BOB, camping gear, communication equipment, guns, food and water enough for 72 hours.

    Our house have redundant equipments/supplies and can last us a long time but since we are in an urban area, my goal is to get out of the city quick in an emergency situation.

    I have two suburban properties outside of CA (NV and AZ)Both are possible bug out locations and can sustain my family's survival for at least two months off the grid.

    Firearms and ammo, I have a lot. I am trained and so is my family.
    Ito ang masarap kapitbahay, magpaturo nang proper prepping. hehe. Ako basic lang at BOB meron eh. Although like I said, i don't see any potential calamities that would be really crippling for me and my family.

    Also I share your concern that those living in the city should really go to the countryside where there are river/s as major lifeline of water and food.

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    I consider learning bushcrafting essential although stuff you learn in the country side can also be applied in urban environment

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    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchtower View Post
    I'm a prepper. It's part of my lifestyle and my immediate family. I'm prepping for any type of calamity, natural or man made. My main concern is earthquake.

    I carry with me this EDC kit at all times


    Each of my family member have their own EDC kit with just the basics.

    In all our cars, we have BOB, camping gear, communication equipment, guns, food and water enough for 72 hours.

    Our house have redundant equipments/supplies and can last us a long time but since we are in an urban area, my goal is to get out of the city quick in an emergency situation.

    I have two suburban properties outside of CA (NV and AZ)Both are possible bug out locations and can sustain my family's survival for at least two months off the grid.

    Firearms and ammo, I have a lot. I am trained and so is my family.
    nice maxpedition you have there ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    nice maxpedition you have there ^^
    Thanks. I love Maxpedition. It's their EDC pocket organizer.

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    Haha! I love their weather proof notes ^^

    Here's a nice piece of gear I remember Travis Haley once reviewed

    ITS ETA Trauma Kit Pouch Fatboy (Coyote) : ITS Tactical

    Pretty organized
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 18th, 2013 at 01:34 PM.
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    #30
    Sage advise for Christmas
    http://youtu.be/nrCh2eM9ALs

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    I was expecting to open nutnfancy's son in that link... instead it was that guy :rofl:
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    #32
    got a question:
    how long would a jerry can or a round drum of unleaded gasoline/diesel fuel last?

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    #33
    A jerry can holds about 19 liters. So, if you consume 10 liters/100km then it's good for 190km.

    So, if an oil drum can hold 200 liters you get about 2000km.

    Of course, you can drive even further if you use your fuel efficiently.
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    #34
    thanks but what i meant was how long would it last like yung shelf life nya (long term storage)

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    #35
    Shelf life depends on where the gas is stored. Theoretically, in a lower temp it will last longer. Me, 2 to 3 months with gas stabilizer. I would still be confident that its effeciency is still intact.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by cpsolt View Post
    thanks but what i meant was how long would it last like yung shelf life nya (long term storage)

    got this one sa net maybe this could help

    Reader question: What is the best way to store fuel, gasoline or kerosene? I was thinking of burring a 55 gallon drum with the top at ground level, with a hand pump for access. Do you paint the drum with tar? What do you suggest on both issues?

    Gasoline is probably the hardest fuel to store for any length of time. It has a high vapor pressure (which means it evaporates quickly) and will go stale in a few weeks if not chemically treated. Stored gasoline must be treated with an additive like STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer (pretty good) or even better… PRI-G (gasoline) or PRI-D (diesel), and protected from moisture if it is to be stored for any length of time. Gasoline has an auto-ignition temperature of 536-degrees Fahrenheit (the minimum temperature required to ignite a gas or vapor in air without a spark or flame being present).

    Kerosene is one of the easiest fuels to store, and is more versatile than most people think. It does not evaporate as readily as gasoline and will remain stable in storage with no special treatment. Many pre-1950 farm tractor engines were designed to run on kerosene, and diesels will run on kerosene if necessary. With an auto-ignition temperature very similar to gasoline, kerosene will auto-ignite in air at 563-degrees F.

    With regards to smaller fuel storage containers, use only approved containers. While there are approved plastic containers, these often have caps or seals that can get lost. The best way to safely store gasoline is in a heavy duty, self-closing approved metal gasoline safety can marked with letters UL (approved by Underwriters Laboratory).

    …a few common-sense precautions

    Keep gasoline out of children’s sight and reach.
    Never store gasoline in glass containers or non-reusable plastic containers such as milk jugs.
    Store only enough gasoline necessary to power equipment and let machinery cool before refueling it.
    Never use gasoline inside the home or as a cleaning agent.
    Clean up spills promptly and discard clean-up materials properly.
    Do not smoke when handling gasoline.
    Never use gasoline in place of kerosene.
    Only fill portable gasoline containers outdoors. Place the container on the ground before filling and never fill containers inside a vehicle or in the bed of a pick-up truck.
    If the storage location is permanent, and you are considering using a buried tank, set it below the frost line where temperatures are stable at 55° F or so, which will inhibit evaporation. If buried fuel tanks offend your sense of environmental responsibility, then consider above ground storage, or an underground vault which has the added advantage of being able to inspect the tanks from time to time.

    55-gallon steel drums can be useful for above-ground storage, vertical with a hand pump or horizontally mounted on a rack with a spigot valve. An advantage to this method is that it is portable (compared to underground storage). Store in a shaded place because sunlight will speed up the oxidation process of the fuel and temperature swings will cause condensation to form at the bottom (keep a valve at the bottom to periodically drain for this purpose). Keeping the tank near full will reduce chances of condensation. You could use a fuel filter at the output valve to separate the water from fuel if this is a concern.

    Although you should consult your local regulations regarding underground (and above ground) fuel storage, ‘if’ one were to decide to bury a 55-gallon steel drum, know that all steel tanks will eventually leak, a not so good prospect if underground. If you must store fuel underground, you should use purpose-built underground storage tanks. Otherwise, be sure to at least coat the tank exterior with many coats of rust inhibitor and/or coat with a thick coat of heavy roofing tar which will help significantly.
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    #37
    Also consider the ethanol added to our fuels.
    So I'd say maybe 1 week to less than a month at most.

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    #38
    best of luck to anybody out there still alive after a nuclear holocaust or a direct impact from space, in case you survived an arkstorm. a hell on earth aftermath.

    but to a lesser degree, everyone should be prepared in mind and body, and soul for some. the leader of the pack is always the strongest, the smartest, and one helluva mean sob. will matter most if you happen to be a female, and short, and wears glasses, and talks funny, oh you know the type. nobody's gonna mess with you if you can kill to protect the rest.
    anyway, loners and soloist die out quickly, so be prepared to beat the hell out of the biggest surface bloke or the subterranean bully to be the last man standing and earn yourself some allies. key is increase membership and secure more grounds/ assets/ territories. you can't stay in one spot for a certain period of time, mobility prevents supply runs and internal fighting. use your head more than your heart and institute strict law and order like there's no democracy. implement strategic goals for each member of the camp. it's critical they know that you know what you're doing. plan, plan and more planning before you execute (it's like playing sims or rpg). it's back to the middle ages so learn how to fight with your body/ stick/ club/ stone/ iron/ water/ fire or anything lying around everywhere. no matter your age or health requirements, train now to stay lean and efficient like an athlete before a game. do what you can now to increase strength, agility and endurance. and while you're at it, hit the books to pick up your-more-than-basic chemistry, physics, herbalism and extra practical skills like swimming, climbing, rappeling, tracking, map reading, poker(beats boredom) etc (bear grylls meets macgyver) bec you're out there for the looooong haul.

    forget doomsday prepping if you're cross because the barista didn't use soya milk in your latte

    otherwise, carry on my wayward son
    Last edited by Helios; December 19th, 2013 at 01:58 AM.

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    ty sa mga input mga sir! :D

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    #40
    sarap din basahin ng zombie survival guide ni max brooks, wala pa akong tulog hahaha

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