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    With the recent Typhoon Yolanda, Bohol earthquake, and Zamboanga siege, are any of you here doing some SHTF preps?

    For those uninitiated, SHTF (S**t Hits The Fan) situation is an end of the world scenario where food and water will be scarce, no electricity and communications are down. There will be no law or order on ground and people will have to take care of their own needs.

    The SHTF situation is very similar to those who experienced the aftermath of Yolanda in Tacloban.

    So how do you prepare for this scenario? Food/water? Shelter? Security? Bug out vehicle?

    Me I have a bug out bag which has basic contents such as a change of clothes and a bladder for water. I also have an everyday carry in a small portable bag containing a multi-tool, flash light, lighter, and flint. Just the basics. I have been investing also on radio communications to be used in vehicle and at the house.

    This is still a work in progress so please chime in if you are one of those preppers also

    remzam

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    I used to watch the show Doomsday preppers. Some made sense but some were bordering cuckoo.

    Some Americans have too much money and idle time to prepare for their idea of how doomsday will happen. I like those families that aim for self sufficiency. There was an episode I saw where the family was planting their own vegetable and fruits, raising livestock, and they also built a water filtration type of system. Yung cuckoo episode naman a guy built a filtration so you can drink your urine

    We don't have any SHTF preps but we're always stocked up on food, more than enough to last 2 months. We have an overhead tank that would last about a week siguro in case water supply is cut. Sacks of coal for cooking too.

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    After most severe typhoons, daming mga nasa hardware shops. Bili ng mga gallons, flashlights, emergency lights, lanterns, household tools, ice chests, tents, pati air bed kagaya sa mga home shopping silbing life raft in case of heavy flooding. It pays to be ready nga din naman, especially after what we saw in Typhoon Haiyan/Yolanda. Some of what looked like extreme prepping before suddenly looked practical and life saving after that.

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    Naalala ko yung dad dun sa Blast from the Past.

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    The most useful skill from the Doomsday Preppers show that I've seen (besides your typical food growing, shooting and etcetera) is food preservation.

    Preserve and bottle your own food. Do it right and cooked food will last months. If you have a homemaker in the family with enough time on their hands, or if you can dedicate your weekends to it, this will also pay off with product you can sell (even without the doomsday scenario) or trade for other supplies.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    I used to watch the show Doomsday preppers. Some made sense but some were bordering cuckoo.

    Some Americans have too much money and idle time to prepare for their idea of how doomsday will happen. I like those families that aim for self sufficiency. There was an episode I saw where the family was planting their own vegetable and fruits, raising livestock, and they also built a water filtration type of system. Yung cuckoo episode naman a guy built a filtration so you can drink your urine

    We don't have any SHTF preps but we're always stocked up on food, more than enough to last 2 months. We have an overhead tank that would last about a week siguro in case water supply is cut. Sacks of coal for cooking too.
    Haha you are right Miss Cathy! Lots of weird people doing weird preps in Doomsday Preppers. But many are also practical stuff like living off the grid and being self reliant. I often wonder what will happen if SHTF in Manila. We've had close calls like typhoons and habagats and I remember even one time when the government shut off comms/ cell signals during the Nazareno parade in Manila and everyone was caught by surprise.

    Amazing how we take things for granted and become helpless when they are taken away or lost. Especially now that most of us are technology reliant.

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    One thing about prepping, you should have to be armed one way or another. Having a weapon that you can use to defense yourself will be essential when the SHTF. Those who have resources like food and water will become likely targets by the hundreds of people who do not have any food and/or water. Desperate people will do anything to get their hands on your stocks. We have seen what happened in the Yolanda hit areas and the difference where a store was left unguarded and where a single person with a simple handgun defending an establishment.

    So the question to the local preppers in this thread... do you have weapons (guns, etc) included in your prepping list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by remzam View Post
    Haha you are right Miss Cathy! Lots of weird people doing weird preps in Doomsday Preppers. But many are also practical stuff like living off the grid and being self reliant. I often wonder what will happen if SHTF in Manila. We've had close calls like typhoons and habagats and I remember even one time when the government shut off comms/ cell signals during the Nazareno parade in Manila and everyone was caught by surprise.

    Amazing how we take things for granted and become helpless when they are taken away or lost. Especially now that most of us are technology reliant.
    Recent natural disasters also made me think that we should invest in a good coverage for home insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    Recent natural disasters also made me think that we should invest in a good coverage for home insurance.
    Before it was only "Acts of God" in vehicle insurance. Now, I think you are correct that we also have to consider home insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    One thing about prepping, you should have to be armed one way or another. Having a weapon that you can use to defense yourself will be essential when the SHTF. Those who have resources like food and water will become likely targets by the hundreds of people who do not have any food and/or water. Desperate people will do anything to get their hands on your stocks. We have seen what happened in the Yolanda hit areas and the difference where a store was left unguarded and where a single person with a simple handgun defending an establishment.

    So the question to the local preppers in this thread... do you have weapons (guns, etc) included in your prepping list?
    You are correct sir GH! One should be able to protect one's assets. This will depend on the skill of the person. I, particularly don't have an affinity with guns but will probably consider learning how to handle one properly.

    One technique also is to be a grey man during these situations. Meaning just have a low profile and not attract attention. You should also not be so obvious that you have enough goods with you to survive so as not to attract the bad elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remzam View Post
    You are correct sir GH! One should be able to protect one's assets. This will depend on the skill of the person. I, particularly don't have an affinity with guns but will probably consider learning how to handle one properly.

    One technique also is to be a grey man during these situations. Meaning just have a low profile and not attract attention. You should also not be so obvious that you have enough goods with you to survive so as not to attract the bad elements.

    Even being a "grey man" will not work in all situations, especially if there are people entering unguarded buildings to look for food and other stuff. They might accidentally stumble upon your stash. Given they know where you have hidden your stuff, you have to decide to let them go (they will tell others of your stash) or kill them so your secret stash remains a secret. In that kind of situation, can you kill to keep your edge to survive?

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    I also watch doomsday preppers. SOme of the things I think is applicable to my situation is yung making sure you have at least 3 days worth of water supply, some light food and clothes to be carried, a half-full (always) of fuel for the car and some sort of protection like bolo and guns (kahit handheld lang muna hehe). A portable radio and of course yung mga utilities like rope an swiss army knife.

    In my place, the biggest probable calamity if a super strong typhoonand maybe a tsunami/storm surge but highly unlikely. Another crazy possibility is being attacked by chinese armies. hehehe

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    home insurance sucks big time! they will base the premiums on the "brand new cost or market value whichever is higher" then when you put in a claim they hit you with depreciation. And guess what, you end up getting paid only a small fraction of what you insured your house for. parang kumuha ka ng comprehensive insurance sa kotse then sasabihin sa iyo pag nag claim ka ng total loss isang door lang papalitan nila.

    back to topic:
    may 5 cans sardines at 5 cans corned beef si misis lagi sa cabinet. tama na daw yun at may laman naman lagi ang ref. karamihan ng laman ng food cabinets namin puro pang snacks like potato chips and cheese balls. so in other words, wala wala wala!
    pero ewan ko, since yolanda e nagsabi sa akin na magpapagawa daw siya ng cabinet taguan ng canned goods.
    3 baril meron, ammo siguro 600 rounds total. kulang ano?

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    The best way to start prepping is making an EDC(Everyday carry) kit. There's a saying that if you're not prepared for everything, you're never prepared.

    For my EDC kit, I carry:
    -3 inch pocket knife(for bushcrafting and kindling) w/ leather sheath(leather+O2H2=fire)
    -cheapo multitool
    -sterile bandage
    -safety shears
    -oxygen peroxide
    -12 ft paracord
    -paracord bracelet
    -LED pocket light
    -lighter (I don't smoke)
    -whistle
    -cotton w/ Vaseline stored in small can
    -ferrocerium rod (in case lighter becomes out of commission)
    -skyflakes
    -poncho (because it rains a lot)
    -duct tape

    IMHO, the best reference to use if you're starting is: Mykel Hawke's Green Beret Survival Manual.

    It is very easy to follow and simple. Only investment is time to learn.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Medyo konti lang yung 600 rounds, maybe add another zero behind it. I've subscribed to a prepper forum ever since na stranded ako nun Ondoy( never again!). walang pagkain, walang cash, walang kuryente sa area, basang sapatos; hinde masaya

    Anyways, usually kasi mga tinago nilang ammo is in the 5 digits and most know how to "reload" I dunno kung tama yung term, not really a gun owner kasi, basta yung may parang preso tapos tada! +1 bullet!

    add to your ghb/shtf preps, tissue paper

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    ah yes. toilet paper is one of those things often forgotten though not entirely essential.

    basics should be covered in this order:

    water - trickiest to store and transport. may be filters or purification tablets. if you can get them, oxygen solution is the ideal treatment provided your stored water has already been purified.

    food - usually comes as MRE. skyflakes qualifies although protein bars are the most ideal. It's all about packing the most calories in a compact size. If you can preserve them, nuts are good too.

    shelter - tarp, space blanket, paracord, duct tape

    I'll try to post more information tomorrow.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    Medyo konti lang yung 600 rounds, maybe add another zero behind it.
    Hehe, konti nga talaga. Pero di na kasya sa taguan, bili muna ako ng bigger safe. Maybe 1 can of 5.56 and 4 boxes of pistol ammo tama na sa akin yun.

    mahal ang reloading equipment kahit hand loading lang, and i think one needs another permit to buy gun powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Even being a "grey man" will not work in all situations, especially if there are people entering unguarded buildings to look for food and other stuff. They might accidentally stumble upon your stash. Given they know where you have hidden your stuff, you have to decide to let them go (they will tell others of your stash) or kill them so your secret stash remains a secret. In that kind of situation, can you kill to keep your edge to survive?
    Sabi ng mga Kano na gunowners,- "You compromised my right to property,- you defaulted your right to life"...



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    the prepper here has his own doomsday bunker:

    American Blackout | National Geographic Channel

    with stock fuel.
    wish I could afford (time + money) to have something like that sa PH.

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