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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    if it was 1 GI, even 2, pwede pa sabihin pineperahan nya mga kano. pero 6?? as in SIX guys?? i dont know, but she would probably have to be a ****star to agree to have *** with 6 guys. or be stupid enough to think that she'd get away with blackmailing them all.

    lets not even get to the part where she was left out on the sidewalk.

  2. Join Date
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    ewan ko lang ha, but there's really one thing I've noticed about girls, they have this tendency to become wild. kumbaga parang ito yun counterpart if we guys want to look cool hehehe. there's really no scientific explanation for this coz it's a spontaneous feeling. and it hits them girls at some point in their lives the way we guys experience "rebel without a cause" tendencies.

    but that doesnt give us boys a license either to take advantage of this particular mental state. kahit ala coyote ugly or springbreak event pa ito, wag pilitin kung ayaw.

  3. Join Date
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    why don't we review the facts that are known?

    fact 1: she comes from a well to do family. her father is a captain in the army, they have 2 grocery stores in mindanao. not the type of girl who would become a prostitute, nor the type of family who would forego of their daughter's honor for money.

    fact 2. she was drunk, not excatly the state where she can give her consent freely. she was in fact unconcious after the accident. and not exactly the state of mind that can make rational decisions either. soplease stop saying it's her fault.

    fact 3: she was crying and asking for help during the act. there was a witness to this, the van driver. (and don't even say he recanted afterwards, judges give more credence to first testimonies than recantations.)

    fact 4: she tried to fight off the attack. she had bruises on her body indicating that she tried to fight her (alledged) attacker. there is medico-legal evidence to this.

    fact 5: she was dumped on the side of the road afterwards, unconcious. there are also witnesses to this, the people who found her. now if it were an act of casual ***, would she be dumped on the side of the road? dami hotel sa sbma, why not there?

    fact 6: she and her family are not asking for money, they said they will pursue the case no matter what.

    fact 7: this did not happen in the states where "casual ***" is an expectation when a girl goes to a bar. this happened in the philippines where women can (still) go to a bar, meet new friends and still expect to keep her honor. maybe she's naive, but that is not a crime is it?

    i'm not saying that the GIs are guilty either, but the facts say otherwise. make your own decisions, but please no biases. ang hirap kasi sa mga cases ng rape it's always the victim's fault. why do we always find fault in the victim of rape cases? is it because pinandidirihan na so in our minds it is her to blame?

  4. Join Date
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    mali lang nya talaga sumama sya sa mga lalaking yun...pakiramdam ko trip din nya yung mga lalake kaya lang di nya i-enexpect na ganun mangyayari...cguro ang pagsama nya sa mga lalakeng yun was one of her "bahala ni si batman" moments in which case nagkamali sya...
    i have a sis who likes to go bar hopping often, i agree that a girl with say, 5 or 6 guys on his side that she knows very well isn't always looking for ***. but thing is, that's different kung mga total strangers kasama mo, dba? di ka pa taga-doon sa lugar.
    based on her family background, i dont also see that she may be after some cash. i can feel that she indeed is fighting for her somehow lost dignity but then again, girl it's your fault, sumama ka eh, kahit nung di ka pa lasing at nagpaiwan ka pa. again, she may be thinking that this aren't bad guys, but you can't always be assuming these days...maraming hayup sa mundo hija!

  5. Join Date
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    We really did not know what happened during that night. Both party's may have their own version of what happened although we have not heard the story of the GI's so we can't really make a complete judgement on who's to blame here.

    I am reserving my comments until I get enough facts from both parties. I am also waiting for the results of the investigations being done including that of the US Navy group which I heard from this mornings news is also conducting an investigation on this issue.

    I hope they make the trial public so we have first hand information from witnesses and we can make our own judgement on who's fault it was.

    In the end, I hope justice will be served and the guilty party should punished to the fullest extent of the law.

  6. Join Date
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    these are just some of my opinion based on the li'l fact that we have na: sumama sya sa mga GI na yun at nagpaiwan sya sa bar na mag-isa. i think, sinabi rin naman nya yun.

    sana nga justice ma-serve.

  7. Join Date
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    a rape is a rape.pag walang consent, RAPE!!!

    its not a question if she asks for it...BECAUSE SHE DID NOT!!!!the SITUATION MIGHT...BUT THE GIRL DID NOT!!!

    ang simple lang naman nun ah.kahit ba sumama siyang NAKAHUBAD sa isang libong lalaki..it doesnt give them the right to HAVE *** WITH HER WITHOUT HER CONSENT!!!

  8. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    ang simple lang naman nun ah.kahit ba sumama siyang NAKAHUBAD sa isang libong lalaki..it doesnt give them the right to HAVE *** WITH HER WITHOUT HER CONSENT!!!
    come to think of it, ano nga kaya feeling kapag may kasama kami nakahubad at nag-bar hopping :2hearts: must be surreal hehehe

  9. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennSter
    a rape is a rape.pag walang consent, RAPE!!!

    its not a question if she asks for it...BECAUSE SHE DID NOT!!!!the SITUATION MIGHT...BUT THE GIRL DID NOT!!!

    ang simple lang naman nun ah.kahit ba sumama siyang NAKAHUBAD sa isang libong lalaki..it doesnt give them the right to HAVE *** WITH HER WITHOUT HER CONSENT!!!
    yep its as simple as that. really.

  10. Join Date
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    yeah..tempting..sobrang you'll feel the bulge.hehe

    but it doesnt give us the right to have *** with a girl without consent diba?

  11. Join Date
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    OT: sa mga lalaki dyan. sasama ba kayo sa 6 na bading ( no offense) na kakakilala nyo lang and makipag inuman at sumama sa van nila? la lang tatanong lang naman... innocent talaga until proven guilty ang mangyayari. pero mukhang sa media guilty na agad yung 6 na marines until proven innocent e.

  12. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwapito69
    OT: sa mga lalaki dyan. sasama ba kayo sa 6 na bading ( no offense) na kakakilala nyo lang and makipag inuman at sumama sa van nila?
    Hehehe. Kung ikaw naman ang isa sa mga GI? Yung nakilala mo sa bar ay re-rape-in mo ba kasama ang tropa mo at itatapon mo sa damuhan?

  13. Join Date
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    kung ganito situation: 6 kame magkabarkada at may kasama isang GRO, e bakit kahit isang beses e hindi namin naisipan irape ang GRO? not just rape but gangrape pa. e GRO na yan ha. what more isang babae na nakilala lang sa bar?

    sus mio kahit GRO nga dinadaan pa sa magandang usapan kung talagang gustong imotel tsktsk

  14. Join Date
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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDrebin
    Hehehe. Kung ikaw naman ang isa sa mga GI? Yung nakilala mo sa bar ay re-rape-in mo ba kasama ang tropa mo at itatapon mo sa damuhan?
    nako, USMC sila kaya Code Red

  15. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwapito69
    OT: sa mga lalaki dyan. sasama ba kayo sa 6 na bading ( no offense) na kakakilala nyo lang and makipag inuman at sumama sa van nila? la lang tatanong lang naman... innocent talaga until proven guilty ang mangyayari. pero mukhang sa media guilty na agad yung 6 na marines until proven innocent e.

    ngekkk kahit 2 bading lang hindi pa rin ako sasama.. lalake pa rin yon malalakas pa hehehe..

  16. Join Date
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    madilim ang horizon para sa pinay rape victim...

    pessimistic ang lawyer na si katrina legarda, na matapos ang trial within 1 year as per techicalities of VFA.... Kailangan ala Flash Gordon sa bilis ang trial judge na habulin ang time limit.

  17. Join Date
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    sa mga lalaki dyan. sasama ba kayo sa 6 na bading ( no offense) na kakakilala nyo lang and makipag inuman at sumama sa van nila? la lang tatanong lang naman...
    you really brought this issue into perspective, I suddenly felt sympathy forthe girl na talaga. lalo na siguro ko anim na bading na kano pa tapos nasa van. kakatakot!

  18. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    you really brought this issue into perspective, I suddenly felt sympathy forthe girl na talaga. lalo na siguro ko anim na bading na kano pa tapos nasa van. kakatakot!
    anim na bading na kano na egoy averaging 6'5 up ang height and 230 lbs above ang weight. Yun ang nakakatakot warat

  19. Join Date
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    I was saying that it seems to me that common 'yung view na "guilty until proven innocent" 'yung allegedly raped girl. The "alleged rape" is often being justified by what are assumed as her actions (/pagsama sa 6 na guys). Gets? Understand and comprehend is different.
    Gets?! Now I do get after your thorough explanation.
    Comprehend and Understand is the same? Couldnt wait for your response yesterday so I did my own research. Comprehend and understand is synonymous. How can it be subtle? Having said that, it becomes redundant when used in the same sentence. (needlessly wordy or repetitive in expression). Not only this thread is interesting, I learned something new.

    Why do feel irritated when I mentioned you have a brain? I thought you wanted to be recognized as having a brain and not just a walking p_ssy? (according to your own words from previous statement)

    Anyway, let justice be served.

  20. Join Date
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    and not just a walking p_ssy?
    pag na-mention nyo ito, umaandar talaga imagination ko hehehe

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