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September 12th, 2006 06:49 AM #31
i had a feeling awhile ago about where this thread was heading :hysterical:
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September 12th, 2006 07:03 AM #32
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September 12th, 2006 08:36 AM #33
George W. Bush on Faith
On God, War, and Freedom
"Freedom is on the march in this world. I believe everybody in the Middle East desires to live in freedom. I believe women in the Middle East want to live in a free society. I believe mothers and fathers want to raise their children in a free and peaceful world. I believe all these things, because freedom is not America's gift to the world, freedom is the almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world."
--Speech in Pennsylvania, October 22, 2004
To impose Western Faith and Idealogy is the Answer to Arab inequality and tyranny...duhhh.Last edited by Monseratto; September 12th, 2006 at 09:01 AM.
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September 12th, 2006 09:20 AM #34
For as long as "men are like boys, playing with bombs,- like kids playing with toys".... We are not safe!
The threat to humanity still is hanging by a thread...
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September 12th, 2006 12:39 PM #36No - Osama is not helping them.
But bombing innocent Arabs will not help either.
Absolutely not. He will continue his activities. But will allowing Israel to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure help deal with Osama and lunatics like him? Or will it just create more hatred because of all the innocents killed? You think about that...
Agreed -- Osama is a lunatic. But Bush is acting almost the same way.
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September 12th, 2006 03:40 PM #37
Uhm... terrorism is despicable, whatever its motive. And, according to these terrorists, anyone who isn't with them is against them..., which is how they can kill anyone, even other muslims, who are not part of their cause.
I should know. We have a muslim friend who was kidnapped for money three times before he got fed up and emigrated to Luzon. So who are they fighting for, again?
Granted, the US has been callous in its dealings with Arabs, but that doesn't give the extremists a right to attack everyone willy nilly.
That's something people often fail to understand. Americans buy gas guzzlers because gas is cheap in the US, and their relatively crude SUVs and trucks are cheap to make and sell compared to monocoque framed cars and crossovers. Of course, that's changing now, as more and more Americans are buying small cars. RE: relatively crude meaning a typical big three SUV uses a lot of old-school (albeit refined) technology.
If you study the economics of oil, it is neither American, Arab, nor Eskimo who is the root of the current supply crisis. It is merely an inability to cope with demand. New refineries do take more than one or two years to get onstream.
You know, before the remote-controlled bombs started killing, there was the small matter of a demolished New York office complex...
If, however, you are implying of bombing by proxy via Israel... then take note of this: the Palestinian Authority refuses to take the responsibility of preventing bombers from crossing over to Israel. Neither do they prosecute any of those identified to have abetted these individuals.
The Israelis aren't saints... but then again, it's hard to be one if you're not given a fair chance...
Ahh, the American government's motives may be in question... but does the Iraqi majority feel raped? Take note that the insurgency failed in its greatest chance to show it has the support of the people: a failure of elections. Iraqis of all creeds (yes, even Sunnis) braved the violence and voted in a proper government.
If Iraqis did feel raped, they would not have voted. They would, instead, have rebelled further. Do not say it is because the Iraqis fear America. Vietnam is the perfect example of the possibility of a united people defeating a far superior foe.
We should credit the Iraqis with the dignity and respect they so rightly deserve, rather than twist their plight to our convenience. Frankly, your opinion that Americans deserve to die in Iraq reveals a deficient understanding of the word 'civilization.'
This is plausible. But do recognize this: all wars are over money and power. Even Custer's Last Stand was about money.
Now, the following is purely my opinion. Iraq was simply national interest, whatever that may be... be it democracy, money, or both. America is no saint and not absolved of the taint of war.
However, to say that America is the root cause of all this evil... this is unfair. The US government, at worst, saw an opening and went for the basket... offensive fouls be damned.Last edited by niky; September 12th, 2006 at 04:15 PM.
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alas, much as we might want to rely on our noses, we may not use our noses to do emissions...
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