5 years after 9/11...ARE WE SAFE?

[teamsicnarf]

were not safe anymore.. a fact that we have to live with,even if osama dies his legacy will continue coz thats what radical muslim do.
so many events to be aware of not only terrorism.. such as tsunami,landslide,global warming,worldwar,killer virus,plague,earthquake,asteriods,mall wide sale,and 99cents store..

[oldblue]

Is Bush a born-again Christian? because he must be in a terribly misguided church. He doesn't act like one.

As long as US will be headed by the likes of Bush(es), America will never be safe. Osama's campaign is just for americans to leave Middle east. See, America have been sucking dry every nation it "allies" (more of take advantage of) with (Philippines included). Saudi's oil is supposedly for the world. But what happens? America gets to be the middle man of the oil to the world market. Who gets rich? America.

Isn't it a wonder why America is producing gas guzzlers? Simple, they want to accelerate the depletion and shortage of oil forcing a world oil crisis. Then use that to control the world.

That's the problem. Not the Arabs. America have been killing Arabian children and women with their remote controlled bombs (supposedly "smart" but im not sure how they define that word). These Arabs kill themselves on-site for this cause. They have been subjected to injustice for quite too long.

The world is either blind or full of mostly cowards who are afraid to face the real problem. America is the problem. They start wars between nations and earn billions through arms. What kind of sick business practice is that?

The coalition of the willing should have been called the coalition of the idiots. Idiots who let themselves be controlled and dragged into a war based on a lie. America says they are after Bioweapons (which, after several investigations, proved to be non-existent), but what are they doing there now? Drilling oil. So, it's all good that americans are killed there for raping these people.

Isn't it funny that 9/11 was allegedly done by a Saudi (Osama) then they attacked Iraq? Makes you think who really did the 9/11. Americans or Arabs. Just look who benefited a lot.

America used to be great. It's just sad that it's controlled by shameless people using their power to get more money and more power.

A commodity which, on the end of days is useless.

sir *flagg, that's a serious accusation. are you saying, Americans killed americans in the 9/11 tragedy?

I like to believe that Iraq has some strategic importance in the Middle East. and the whole world should be thankful that the American military is now in there. sort of an equalizer.

[lolo pepe]

Virgins are overrated. Can I have 70 Peggy Sues?

a true hot-blooded tsikoteer...menyeks...hehehe.

sana nga human females yung virgins...hindi virgin males...

[Flagg]

...As long as US will be headed by the likes of Bush(es), America will never be safe. Osama's campaign is just for americans to leave Middle east. See, America have been sucking dry every nation it "allies" (more of take advantage of) with (Philippines included). Saudi's oil is supposedly for the world. But what happens? America gets to be the middle man of the oil to the world market. Who gets rich? America.

You know, the Arabs are getting rich as well. Are you sure the people of Saudi Arabia would agree that their oil 'is supposedly for the world'?

When one exchanges technology (as in Saudi ARAMCO), one does expect to be paid for it. Make a good guess what ARAMCO means...

To proactively stop this American exploitation, I guess that leaves just one oil company among the Big 3 for you to buy your gas from... Shell. Oops! Shell is part British! Ally of America! Guess that leaves the 'New Players,' but then, gotta find out where that fuel came from...

Isn't it a wonder why America is producing gas guzzlers? Simple, they want to accelerate the depletion and shortage of oil forcing a world oil crisis. Then use that to control the world.

The production of gas guzzlers is more a cost-cutting issue (less R&D) than a world-domination one. :bwahaha:

If you study the economics of oil, it is neither American, Arab, nor Eskimo who is the root of the current supply crisis. It is merely an inability to cope with demand. New refineries do take more than one or two years to get onstream.

That's the problem. Not the Arabs. America have been killing Arabian children and women with their remote controlled bombs (supposedly "smart" but im not sure how they define that word). These Arabs kill themselves on-site for this cause. They have been subjected to injustice for quite too long.

You know, before the remote-controlled bombs started killing, there was the small matter of a demolished New York office complex...

If, however, you are implying of bombing by proxy via Israel... then take note of this: the Palestinian Authority refuses to take the responsibility of preventing bombers from crossing over to Israel. Neither do they prosecute any of those identified to have abetted these individuals.

The Israelis aren't saints... but then again, it's hard to be one if you're not given a fair chance...

The world is either blind or full of mostly cowards who are afraid to face the real problem. America is the problem. They start wars between nations and earn billions through arms. What kind of sick business practice is that?

The coalition of the willing should have been called the coalition of the idiots. Idiots who let themselves be controlled and dragged into a war based on a lie. America says they are after Bioweapons (which, after several investigations, proved to be non-existent), but what are they doing there now? Drilling oil. So, it's all good that americans are killed there for raping these people.

Ahh, the American government's motives may be in question... but does the Iraqi majority feel raped? Take note that the insurgency failed in its greatest chance to show it has the support of the people: a failure of elections. Iraqis of all creeds (yes, even Sunnis) braved the violence and voted in a proper government.

If Iraqis did feel raped, they would not have voted. They would, instead, have rebelled further. Do not say it is because the Iraqis fear America. Vietnam is the perfect example of the possibility of a united people defeating a far superior foe.

We should credit the Iraqis with the dignity and respect they so rightly deserve, rather than twist their plight to our convenience. Frankly, your opinion that Americans deserve to die in Iraq reveals a deficient understanding of the word 'civilization.'

Isn't it funny that 9/11 was allegedly done by a Saudi (Osama) then they attacked Iraq? Makes you think who really did the 9/11. Americans or Arabs. Just look who benefited a lot.

America used to be great. It's just sad that it's controlled by shameless people using their power to get more money and more power.

A commodity which, on the end of days is useless.

This is plausible. But do recognize this: all wars are over money and power. Even Custer's Last Stand was about money.

Now, the following is purely my opinion. Iraq was simply national interest, whatever that may be... be it democracy, money, or both. America is no saint and not absolved of the taint of war.

However, to say that America is the root cause of all this evil... this is unfair. The US government, at worst, saw an opening and went for the basket... offensive fouls be damned.

[Flagg]

sir *flagg, that's a serious accusation. are you saying, Americans killed americans in the 9/11 tragedy?

I like to believe that Iraq has some strategic importance in the Middle East. and the whole world should be thankful that the American military is now in there. sort of an equalizer.

sir oldblue... wasn't me!

[Flagg]

a true hot-blooded tsikoteer...menyeks...hehehe.

sana nga human females yung virgins...hindi virgin males...

Eeeek! Yan ang terror!

[Fast Eddie]

i will give some brief explanations why i don't call those muslims/islams
terrorists.
i don't call those terrorist(terrorists) for nothing. simply put, those
people are "anti american gov't and their allies".those msulims/islams are
figthing for a cause. america has brain washed the world that those
muslims/islams are terrorists, but the fact they are only "anti american
gov't and their allies". di naman lahat inaatake ng the muslims/islams,
who are not associated with america and it's allies. people don't
really have DEEP understanding about these muslim/islam people, or
those so called terrorists (that the u.s. are branding)

america is monopolizing the whole world especially the muslims/islams
and arab countries(their oils mainly). there are muslims/islams and arabians
who are Not favor on us policies and their 'occupations on their
own turfs '.

just because usa says, those muslims are terrorists, but
to WHO? yes, ONLY to usa, and their allies who allinged with the
usa only.

usa is the one who is pulling the punches to muslim/islam people,
first and these muslims people can't confront usa face to face. that
is why these muslims are retaliating secretely inside the us.

the scenario is like this: america the big guy=i can punch anybody
on the nose if i wanted to.
muslims/islamic/arabia/iraq/iran/korea= small people getting beaten up/ or taken advantaged off. these people cannot confront usa face to face.
the result they fight behind you, they stab you from behind.

einstein said: "For there is action, there is EQUAL or NEGATIVE
reactions"

[onat_1]

bago mamatay si prophet mohhamad ang last word niya is "three should be only religion"sa arab region....jews try to establish their exsistance after wwII with FULL support of the u.s.a.,that my friends give you an idea who started all this ....not the u.s.

my 2 cents..:peace:

[Flagg]

My definition of terrorist is straightforward:

One who attacks civilians and non-combatants.

That simple.

So, if I may pose a question: was the Superferry bombing an act of freedom fighting?

If so, was it justified to attack an American ally whose main contributions were merely non-combat troops and moral support?

Haha, OT na. Para on topic... we are not as safe now as before 9/11 simply because the technology to wage terrorism has far outpaced the technology and systems to counter it. Boring no?

[Jun aka Pekto]

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/mer/pdf/pages/sec1_15.pdf
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe...0_mbblpd_a.htm

Hmmm. Out of the United States' daily import of 10056 in thousands of barrels of oil per day in 2005, 2181 came from the Middle East (including Iraq and Saudi Arabia) and 4762 barrels from OPEC member countries. The rest are from other exporters around the world like Mexico and Canada. One of them is the number 1 exporter of oil to the United States and the other is number 2. I'm not sure which one is which. Number 3 would be Venezuela..... Canada is number 1.

Middle East daily intake: 21.7%
OPEC (worldwide) daily intake: 47.4% (which would include the Middle East tally)

I'd say the Middle East as a whole ranks fairly low as a supplier of oil to the US.

Saudi Arabia by itself would be the 4th biggest exporter of oil to the US after Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela.

Edit: adjusted numbers for crude oil only.

[empy]

i had a feeling awhile ago about where this thread was heading :hysterical:

[Jun aka Pekto]

i had a feeling awhile ago about where this thread was heading :hysterical:

Well, it all boils down to oil. Personally, the sooner an alternate power source is found, the better.

As for being safe........ If it's my time to die, then it's my time. But I go where I need to go.

[Monseratto]

George W. Bush on Faith

On God, War, and Freedom
"Freedom is on the march in this world. I believe everybody in the Middle East desires to live in freedom. I believe women in the Middle East want to live in a free society. I believe mothers and fathers want to raise their children in a free and peaceful world. I believe all these things, because freedom is not America's gift to the world, freedom is the almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world."
--Speech in Pennsylvania, October 22, 2004

To impose Western Faith and Idealogy is the Answer to Arab inequality and tyranny...duhhh.

[CVT]

For as long as "men are like boys, playing with bombs,- like kids playing with toys".... We are not safe!

The threat to humanity still is hanging by a thread...

[cardo]

it has made traveling soooo difficult

[creepy]

bakit kaya si osama who's an arab billionaire is not the one who is helping his arab palestinian friends?

No - Osama is not helping them.

why, because he doesn't give a damn. instead he's totally focused on using all his resources to eliminate americans, including innocent women and chidren.

But bombing innocent Arabs will not help either.

granted that the u.s. pours billions of dollars in palestine, are you sure osama won't attack again if given the opportunity?

Absolutely not. He will continue his activities. But will allowing Israel to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure help deal with Osama and lunatics like him? Or will it just create more hatred because of all the innocents killed? You think about that...

hey, the u.s. is dealing with a lunatic fanatic here whose sole purpose in life is to eradicate americans from the face of the earth, no matter what.

Agreed -- Osama is a lunatic. But Bush is acting almost the same way.

[niky]

i will give some brief explanations why i don't call those muslims/islams
terrorists.
i don't call those terrorist(terrorists) for nothing. simply put, those
people are "anti american gov't and their allies".those msulims/islams are
figthing for a cause. america has brain washed the world that those
muslims/islams are terrorists, but the fact they are only "anti american
gov't and their allies". di naman lahat inaatake ng the muslims/islams,
who are not associated with america and it's allies. people don't
really have DEEP understanding about these muslim/islam people, or
those so called terrorists (that the u.s. are branding)

america is monopolizing the whole world especially the muslims/islams
and arab countries(their oils mainly). there are muslims/islams and arabians
who are Not favor on us policies and their 'occupations on their
own turfs '.

just because usa says, those muslims are terrorists, but
to WHO? yes, ONLY to usa, and their allies who allinged with the
usa only.

usa is the one who is pulling the punches to muslim/islam people,
first and these muslims people can't confront usa face to face. that
is why these muslims are retaliating secretely inside the us.

the scenario is like this: america the big guy=i can punch anybody
on the nose if i wanted to.
muslims/islamic/arabia/iraq/iran/korea= small people getting beaten up/ or taken advantaged off. these people cannot confront usa face to face.
the result they fight behind you, they stab you from behind.

einstein said: "For there is action, there is EQUAL or NEGATIVE
reactions"

Uhm... terrorism is despicable, whatever its motive. And, according to these terrorists, anyone who isn't with them is against them..., which is how they can kill anyone, even other muslims, who are not part of their cause.

I should know. We have a muslim friend who was kidnapped for money three times before he got fed up and emigrated to Luzon. So who are they fighting for, again?

Granted, the US has been callous in its dealings with Arabs, but that doesn't give the extremists a right to attack everyone willy nilly.

You know, the Arabs are getting rich as well. Are you sure the people of Saudi Arabia would agree that their oil 'is supposedly for the world'?

When one exchanges technology (as in Saudi ARAMCO), one does expect to be paid for it. Make a good guess what ARAMCO means...

To proactively stop this American exploitation, I guess that leaves just one oil company among the Big 3 for you to buy your gas from... Shell. Oops! Shell is part British! Ally of America! Guess that leaves the 'New Players,' but then, gotta find out where that fuel came from...

The production of gas guzzlers is more a cost-cutting issue (less R&D) than a world-domination one. :bwahaha:

That's something people often fail to understand. Americans buy gas guzzlers because gas is cheap in the US, and their relatively crude SUVs and trucks are cheap to make and sell compared to monocoque framed cars and crossovers. Of course, that's changing now, as more and more Americans are buying small cars. RE: relatively crude meaning a typical big three SUV uses a lot of old-school (albeit refined) technology.

If you study the economics of oil, it is neither American, Arab, nor Eskimo who is the root of the current supply crisis. It is merely an inability to cope with demand. New refineries do take more than one or two years to get onstream.

Isn't it the Chinese?

You know, before the remote-controlled bombs started killing, there was the small matter of a demolished New York office complex...

If, however, you are implying of bombing by proxy via Israel... then take note of this: the Palestinian Authority refuses to take the responsibility of preventing bombers from crossing over to Israel. Neither do they prosecute any of those identified to have abetted these individuals.

The Israelis aren't saints... but then again, it's hard to be one if you're not given a fair chance...

Ahh, the American government's motives may be in question... but does the Iraqi majority feel raped? Take note that the insurgency failed in its greatest chance to show it has the support of the people: a failure of elections. Iraqis of all creeds (yes, even Sunnis) braved the violence and voted in a proper government.

If Iraqis did feel raped, they would not have voted. They would, instead, have rebelled further. Do not say it is because the Iraqis fear America. Vietnam is the perfect example of the possibility of a united people defeating a far superior foe.

We should credit the Iraqis with the dignity and respect they so rightly deserve, rather than twist their plight to our convenience. Frankly, your opinion that Americans deserve to die in Iraq reveals a deficient understanding of the word 'civilization.'

This is plausible. But do recognize this: all wars are over money and power. Even Custer's Last Stand was about money.

Now, the following is purely my opinion. Iraq was simply national interest, whatever that may be... be it democracy, money, or both. America is no saint and not absolved of the taint of war.

However, to say that America is the root cause of all this evil... this is unfair. The US government, at worst, saw an opening and went for the basket... offensive fouls be damned.

I have been harshly critical of the US over the Iraqi invasion, but to say that the guy they kicked out wasn't pure evil is kind of unfair.