Good watch on Netflix

[baludoy]

In MJ’s Last Dance, is Jerry Krause really a bad guy?

Sayang he pass na, he could have given us a different perspective.

i didn't watch the last dance and being a die hard detroit fan, i don't think i ever will. but growing up, i've read several articles about krause and the way he handled the bulls. people who dealt w/ him were almost unilateral in saying he was an unethical, insensitive, and a scrooge s.o.b. but of course, no one can ever deny jerry was a basketball visionary.

krause took a chance on jordan when pundits thought he was just a high flying skinny kid w/ lots of flash, that's why hakeem olajuwon and sam bowie were picked ahead of him in the '84 draft. he then cunningly overhauled the bulls personnel and surrounded "his airness" w/ unknown and unproven role players who proved to be a good fit for a series of successful championship runs w/o them hurting the team's bank account.

i guess it would be safe to say w/o krause, scottie pippen would probably never be a superstar in the level he's now revered (although he was reportedly treated badly as a bull) and phil jackson won't even be a byword in the nba because no league team wanted his services due to a tainted reputation associated w/ past drug use. heck, maybe even the sterling steve kerr will only be best remembered as a 3rd string recruit in phoenix.

[Tha_Mann]

Haha oo nga the promise. Ang off lang sa akin is she likes Park Saeroyi but didnt make any move all those 15 years. Hehe just waited for him to beat the other company so that she could resign na. Seems a bit shallow haha iba rin kasi si Yi-Seo may dating talaga and not afraid to go for it.

Ang saving grace lang kay Soo-Ah is she collected the misdealings of the company all those years as repayment for Saeroyi's father kindness to her.

Just finished Too Hot to Handle kanina. Very nice show. May personal growth ung mga characters. Way way better than The Circle for sure.

parang yung kay Soo-ah kasi eh "If you cannot accept me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best" hahaha eh si Yi-Seo eh talagang tinulungan si Park Saeroyi na maging successful. pero team Soo-Ah pa din haha.

[Egan101]

i didn't watch the last dance and being a die hard detroit fan, i don't think i ever will. but growing up, i've read several articles about krause and the way he handled the bulls. people who dealt was almost unilateral in saying he was an unethical, insensitive, and a scrooge s.o.b. but of course, no one can ever deny jerry was a basketball visionary.

krause took a chance on jordan when pundits thought he was just a high flying skinny kid w/ lots of flash, that's why hakeem olajuwon and sam bowie were picked ahead of him in the '84 draft. he then cunningly overhauled the bulls personnel and surrounded his "airness" w/ unknown and unproven role players who proved to be a good fit for a series of successful championship runs w/o hurting their bank account.

i guess it would be safe to say w/o krause, scottie pippen would probably never be a superstar in the level he's now revered (although he was reportedly treated badly as a bull) and phil jackson won't even be a byword in the nba because no nba team wanted his services due to a tainted reputation associated w/ past drug use. heck, maybe even steve kerr will only be best remembered as a 3rd string player in phoenix.

I love the 89-90 Detroit Bad Boys championship teams. They are defensive oriented teams the same way the 96-98 Bulls team was setup.

I grew up watching the Lakers of Magic Johnson and the Celtics of Larry Bird pass the torch to the Detroit Bad Boys and then the Bulls.

Krause, like some corporate executives, has no regard whatsoever to staff and their feelings. It’s like when you are told by your boss that you should be happy you have a job in this organization. Hehehehe


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[travajante]

i didn't watch the last dance and being a die hard detroit fan, i don't think i ever will. but growing up, i've read several articles about krause and the way he handled the bulls. people who dealt w/ him was almost unilateral in saying he was an unethical, insensitive, and a scrooge s.o.b. but of course, no one can ever deny jerry was a basketball visionary.

krause took a chance on jordan when pundits thought he was just a high flying skinny kid w/ lots of flash, that's why hakeem olajuwon and sam bowie were picked ahead of him in the '84 draft. he then cunningly overhauled the bulls personnel and surrounded his "airness" w/ unknown and unproven role players who proved to be a good fit for a series of successful championship runs w/o hurting their bank account.

i guess it would be safe to say w/o krause, scottie pippen would probably never be a superstar in the level he's now revered (although he was reportedly treated badly as a bull) and phil jackson won't even be a byword in the nba because no nba team wanted his services due to a tainted reputation associated w/ past drug use. heck, maybe even the sterling steve kerr will only be best remembered as a 3rd string player in phoenix.

Do it for Rodman.[emoji4]

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[Egan101]

Do it for Rodman.[emoji4]

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Rodman was very successful with an alpha male leading a team. He is like a misfit soldier but a very effective one. He needed a person to drive him to his best.

Isiah Thomas and Michael Jordan are both very competitive and effective basketball leaders. They were able to tame the beast inside Rodman.


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[jmc21420]

It’s not Jerry Krause, but the other Jerry that made Chicago Bulls what it was— Jerry Reinsdorf.

The same Jerry Reinsdorf who made wonders to the White Sox.

Much in the same manner, what Besos has done to Amazon or Branson to Virgin Atlantic.

Great leaders have a knack in seeing greatness in people before the latter know they are even great.


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[tsupermario]

jordan was selected third in the draft because houston wanted a center and portland already had clyde drexler. after olajuwon and sam bowie was selected, jordan was the best player left in the draft so chicago had to pick him

krause was a scout before becoming GM and he was a good one. got scottie pippen and horace grant from the draft and traded for bill cartwright. he also got kukoc

[Tha_Mann]

It’s not Jerry Krause, but the other Jerry that made Chicago Bulls what it was— Jerry Reinsdorf.

The same Jerry Reinsdorf who made wonders to the White Sox.

Much in the same manner, what Besos has done to Amazon or Branson to Virgin Atlantic.

Great leaders have a knack in seeing greatness in people before the latter know they are even great.


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don't discredit Krause just like that. he was a former GM of White Sox and Bulls, and he has an eye for talent. yes Reinsdorf is the owner, but it was Krause who made the dealings.

[Deestone]

for Hi Bye, Mama, I liked the ending and I'll be disappointed if Yuri stay with her family again, parang pinoy teleserye na yun haha

binge-watching BCS right now, take a break from K-Drama naman haha.

Haha what season are you now in BCS? Im currently just starting season 3.

[Tha_Mann]

Haha what season are you now in BCS? Im currently just starting season 3.

Season 5 episode 6 although I've binge-watched BCS seasons 1-4 only last year, right after Breaking Bad.

[jmc21420]

don't discredit Krause just like that. he was a former GM of White Sox and Bulls, and he has an eye for talent. yes Reinsdorf is the owner, but it was Krause who made the dealings.

He was ONLY a general manager.

The buck stops at Reinsdorf’s door.

You don’t credit Apple’s success to Steve Wozniak, but to Steve Job.

And you don’t credit Paul Allen what Gates did to Microsoft.

He was just a foot soldier.

That was all he is.

If he were bigger than that, MJ wouldn’t make him a butt of the joke all the time.


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[jmc21420]

I recommend “Sérgio” if you’re interested with international relations.


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[tarzegetakizerd]

He was ONLY a general manager.

The buck stops at Reinsdorf’s door.

You don’t credit Apple’s success to Steve Wozniak, but to Steve Job.

And you don’t credit Paul Allen what Gates did to Microsoft.

He was just a foot soldier.

That was all he is.

If he were bigger than that, MJ wouldn’t make him a butt of the joke all the time.


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So by your logic, Bob Myers isn't to be credited for the Warriors' recent success, then? Just asking

[tsupermario]

"Players and coaches alone don’t win championships; organizations win championships." - Jerry Kraus

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[jmc21420]

So by your logic, Bob Myers isn't to be credited for the Warriors' recent success, then? Just asking

As an entertainment business enterprise, credit that to Joe Lacob and his investors.

I don’t think Lacob would just say: “up to you mr myers what to do with GSW.”

It’s the forest, not the trees.


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[jmc21420]

I’m considering FAUDA


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[Sweetlucious]

parang yung kay Soo-ah kasi eh "If you cannot accept me at my worst, then you don't deserve me at my best" hahaha eh si Yi-Seo eh talagang tinulungan si Park Saeroyi na maging successful. pero team Soo-Ah pa din haha.

Ganda nung Soo-ah no?

Stalked her, damn she’s late 20s na, and can still pass as a senior high and college student.

[tarzegetakizerd]

Ganda nung Soo-ah no?

Stalked her, damn she’s late 20s na, and can still pass as a senior high and college student.

First saw her in My Mister. Ganda talaga hehe

A lot of these Korean actresses look young for their age. Some even still look like how they looked 20 years ago (ehem Song Hye Kyo)

[Tha_Mann]

He was ONLY a general manager.

The buck stops at Reinsdorf’s door.

You don’t credit Apple’s success to Steve Wozniak, but to Steve Job.

And you don’t credit Paul Allen what Gates did to Microsoft.

He was just a foot soldier.

That was all he is.

If he were bigger than that, MJ wouldn’t make him a butt of the joke all the time.


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so what do you think is the GM's role in building a team?

[Tha_Mann]

Ganda nung Soo-ah no?

Stalked her, damn she’s late 20s na, and can still pass as a senior high and college student.

yup, ganda nga. I also stalked her while watching IC haha.

First saw her in My Mister. Ganda talaga hehe

A lot of these Korean actresses look young for their age. Some even still look like how they looked 20 years ago (ehem Song Hye Kyo)

Hi Bye, Mama's lead actress Kim ***-hee is already 40 years old, but she still looks like in her early 30's.