Skyactive i-Stop engined cars - ALTERNATIVE BATTERIES.

[Walter]

You really don't save enough to recover the cost of a new battery and you're not really saving mother earth by using start-stop technology ... It's just so vehicle companies can claim lesser consumption for government classification and tax advantages ...

Engine stop-start Vs idling in traffic: How much can you save? | Auto Expert John Cadogan - YouTube

[travajante]

You really don't save enough to recover the cost of a new battery and you're not really saving mother earth by using start-stop technology ... It's just so vehicle companies can claim lesser consumption for government classification and tax advantages ...

Engine stop-start Vs idling in traffic: How much can you save? | Auto Expert John Cadogan - YouTube

I'm not sure there's any owner out there who bought the car because of the feature. You're right, it won't save earth. The damage we've done is far irreversible....But it's there to not add up to pollution while it's on.[emoji4] Think of it as an insincere act of contrition...imagined by manufacturers for end users to feel good about.[emoji13]
Oh well, more tech=more dealership dependence...all boils down to $$$$[emoji2957]


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[Dr.Kamiya]

I hate any kind of start-stop tech on conventional engines. I don't believe anyone feels good about it, the manufacturers just put it there because it improves their theoretical fleet emissions numbers and keeps them compliant for whatever Euro or CARB regulation, but they also know people mostly disable it.

If the car has even a mild hybrid system start-stop works much better.

[dr. d]

i used to click off my non-mazda engine during long traffic stops.
my battery died a month after the warranty ran out.
i figure, the cost of the new battery pretty much out-weighed the fuel savings.

i wonder, by how much can that battery charger extend the battery's life, if i use it but not stop turning off the engine at long waits??

[oj88]

I did some Googling earlier and came upon a post from a guy whose iStop-equipped Mazda, at the date of his posting, has just reached 10,000 km. The app on his phone says that the iStop system, after driving 10,000km, saved him 24km worth of gas. lol... That's like 0.24% fuel savings. So on average, for every 50L of fuel you've used up, you're saving 125ml or about P6.25.

How can you recover enough money to replace the battery every so and so months?

I know part of the idea behind this feature was to go green... That, I am aware of. But come on.... all that inconvenience and expense to save an almost negligible amount of fuel?

Granted, YMWV depending on who's driving. Well, I just thought it was funny.

Here it is: How to disable i-stop PERMANENTLY in 1 seconds | 24 to 216 Mazda 3 Forum and Mazdaspeed 3 Forums

[travajante]

I did some Googling earlier and came upon a post from a guy whose iStop-equipped Mazda, at the date of his posting, has just reached 10,000 km. The app on his phone says that the iStop system, after driving 10,000km, saved him 24km worth of gas. lol... That's like 0.24% fuel savings. So on average, for every 50L of fuel you've used up, you're saving 125ml or about P6.25.

How can you recover enough money to replace the battery every so and so months?

I know part of the idea behind this feature was to go green... That, I am aware of. But come on.... all that inconvenience and expense to save an almost negligible amount of fuel?

Granted, YMWV depending on who's driving. Well, I just thought it was funny.

Here it is: How to disable i-stop PERMANENTLY in 1 seconds | 24 to 216 Mazda 3 Forum and Mazdaspeed 3 Forums

When I was shopping 3s back in '14, I weighed having the 2.0 against the hobo 1.5 I got & still have. iStop turned on turned me off. The EFB/AGM need tipped me over. The old school low tech dino w/in was just way too dominant.[emoji13]


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[travajante]

i used to click off my non-mazda engine during long traffic stops.
my battery died a month after the warranty ran out.
i figure, the cost of the new battery pretty much out-weighed the fuel savings.

i wonder, by how much can that battery charger extend the battery's life, if i use it but not stop turning off the engine at long waits??

Hehehe...Mazda's iStop, unlike other systems, doesn't use the starter to restart the engine. The higher spec'd batt is there for loads other than recranking.
I've been using trickle chargers on regular cars w/ regular batts, doc. Though they've proven to double the average Motolite life, I still lost faith in that batt brand. Without the charger, they seem to last, kinda precisely, as long as their warranty....it's amazing.[emoji13]

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[dr. d]

Hehehe...Mazda's iStop, unlike other systems, doesn't use the starter to restart the engine. The higher spec'd batt is there for loads other than recranking.
I've been using trickle chargers on regular cars w/ regular batts, doc. Though they've proven to double the average Motolite life, I still lost faith in that batt brand. Without the charger, they seem to last, kinda precisely, as long as their warranty....it's amazing.[emoji13]

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ah!
TIL!
thank you.
kinda like push-starting of olde.

so now, i'm curious...
what's with the seemingly-lousy battery?
or, is it possible, tinipid nila yung alternator natin?
heh heh.

[travajante]

ah!
TIL!
thank you.
kinda like push-starting of olde.

so now, i'm curious...
what's with the seemingly-lousy battery?
or, is it possible, tinipid nila yung alternator natin?
heh heh.

The Motolite EFB was priced like those it failed to be, doc. What owners are complaining is about something they long knew upon getting the iStop equipped...thrice pricier battery that won't last twice longer than regular flooded ones on non-iStop cars.
That's why you're hearing a voice in the wilderness yelling CTEK, CTEK, CTEK CT5 Start/Stop...I just dunno who's listening.[emoji13]

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