2014 Mazda 3

[Horsepower]

I don't get why there's so much backlash against Mazda when it comes to the i-Stop battery. It's as if this kind of technology is entirely new. Ask and european car owner who has start-stop tech and they'll tell you that their cars also use special batteries.

As for the motolite developed batteries, if they were indeed "ordinary" and not specially developed for start-stop, then they wouldn't even last a week because of the abuse that the batteries take from the constant on and off of the engine.

Minsan mga Pinoy talaga sasabat na, may masabi lang.

I don't really see any backlash except that they supposedly charged a customer (a TopgearPH staff) 16K for a battery that can be had for just 5k+

I read somewhere that the i-stop system has a high rate capacitor (I wonder then how much that is) which takes care of the need for frequent start/stop. Is this correct?

Been thinking of getting a second hand Mz6 (current model) and previous Accord V6 VCM so I am a bit thankful I knew of this info.

[testament11]

I don't really see any backlash except that they supposedly charged a customer (a TopgearPH staff) 16K for a battery that can be had for just 5k+

I read somewhere that the i-stop system has a high rate capacitor (I wonder then how much that is) which takes care of the need for frequent start/stop. Is this correct?

Been thinking of getting a second hand Mz6 (current model) and previous Accord V6 VCM so I am a bit thankful I knew of this info.

No, imposible may mabibili kang 5k+ na battery specifically designed para sa i-Stop system. Uulitin ko, this is a special battery designed para sa start-stop system. So why complain? Maybe in near future baka umabot nalang sa ganung price yun battery or kung halos lahat ng sasakyan dito sa atin ay may start-stop feature. And oh, I doubt 5k+ lang yun battery na ilalabas ni Motolite para sa i-stop system ng Mazda, It could be less than the OEM battery, pero not that cheap.

Tsaka yun sinasabi mong capacitor, i-eloop system yan, aka regenerative braking system. Ang CX-5 for example has i-stop pero walang i-eloop feature, so hindi ito kasama sa i-stop system.

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I don't really see any backlash except that they supposedly charged a customer (a TopgearPH staff) 16K for a battery that can be had for just 5k+

I read somewhere that the i-stop system has a high rate capacitor (I wonder then how much that is) which takes care of the need for frequent start/stop. Is this correct?

Been thinking of getting a second hand Mz6 (current model) and previous Accord V6 VCM so I am a bit thankful I knew of this info.

Different battery 100% and will cost more than the typical battery. Mali yun nagsabi ng 5k lang, unless may kilala siguro sa motolite at yun ang cost ng pag gawa ng battery. And we know naman na mahal lagi presyo ng casa, i think kung 15k sa casa baka 8k lang yan pag sa market na.

Pero sa totoo lang pwede gamitin yun ordinary battery di lang gagana istop or ma-lowbatt agad


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[Walter]

According to one poster who allegedly deals Motolite battery, there's nothing special about it except the Mazda Sticker. People are waiting for Mazda to clear things up though.

That person probably doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe he'll also say iPhones are just the same as other China made phones except they have the Apple logo.

[Ry_Tower]

Na-compute na dati nang isang tsikoteer cost-benefit analysis nang expensive vs gas savings. In 2 years mas makakatipid ka pa din sa istop system. So hindi dapat concern yan.

Also tama si testa, bibili-bili ka nang kotse na may iStop tapos 'di mo gagamitin or imaximize!

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Hindi kasi nagtanong muna yun ibang owners ng may istop bago binili unit nila kaya gulat na gulat

When i was scouting for a cx5, one of my first question was regarding the battery and did some research about it, found out special battery nga and will cost more,13-16k yata canvass ko dati sa 3 dealers and that was 22 months ago but decided to still get the cx5.

Sa akin almost 2 yrs and 13k odo pero di pa ako nagpapalit ng battery. Last january was the last PMS and sabi ng casa, okay pa naman battery ng sa akin.




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[RandMcnally]

I dont know why the battery is a huge deal breaker or why there's even a big fuss about it. I know you can buy a lot of things with 16k but for someone buying a 1.2m car that is said to be more fuel efficient than other cars, 16k every 3 years (optimistically) is not really that much. It's not a consumable we replace every 6 months.

To put it in perspective, 16k for a 1.295M car is 1.2%. A 1km/L saving granting you drive 30km a day for six days is around 4.5k a year. If the car itself is as fuel efficient as they say, then I am guessing the price difference is essentially non existent. Realistically, if a mazda 6 is nearly 2km/L more efficient than any 3.5L V6 competitor, it's still cheaper to buy a 16k battery on a fuel efficient car than a cheaper 4.5k battery for a gas guzzler. Sometimes, we get blinded by the big numbers that we forget the smaller ones.

Thirdly, last year they said the price was 25k. This year, it's down to 16k. It's realistic to say that it would get cheaper in the next few years.

I know, 16k is still big money but I am not sure if we are putting all things into perspective. Of course we want to penny pinch (or should I say peso pinch) in every way we can but for a 1.2M car, 16k is not really a big number.

[jcal68]

It may be possible to use Motolite as replacement but maybe not the automotive series. Motolite also produces batteries for special uses like the Amptech and Solarmaster. Motolite Amptech seems to satisfy the i-stop requirement. Hmm. . .

[Walter]

It may be possible to use Motolite as replacement but maybe not the automotive series. Motolite also produces batteries for special uses like the Amptech and Solarmaster. Motolite Amptech seems to satisfy the i-stop requirement. Hmm. . .

It won't fit.

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It may be possible to use Motolite as replacement but maybe not the automotive series. Motolite also produces batteries for special uses like the Amptech and Solarmaster. Motolite Amptech seems to satisfy the i-stop requirement. Hmm. . .

It won't fit.

[jcal68]

It won't fit.

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It won't fit.

So sad to here that. However, it is also nice to note that the technology is available locally.

[jcal68]

[QUOTE=Walter;2503659]It won't fit.

TopGear reported that Mazda has teamed with Motolite for the manufacture of special battery i-Stop systems. This special battery is priced at P 14,703.00.

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/techn...f=most-popular

[aRTie]

On another note, I was surprised na nagtaas ng price ang 3 when I inquired again. A week before that it was just 940k+.

Yup. They would be riding on their laurels for being the 2014 Car of the Year.

If i remember correctly, when Berjaya revealed the pricing of 3 last year.. they said that it is just an introductory price and is bound to go up within 6 months to 1 year. Malaki rin kasi binaba ng SRP nya from previous gen considering yung ibang brands pataas ang trend ng price

Forgot if nabasa ko to sa isang article or advise ng agent ko

Of course, the CotY award just gave them license to ask for more

[testament11]

If i remember correctly, when Berjaya revealed the pricing of 3 last year.. they said that it is just an introductory price and is bound to go up within 6 months to 1 year. Malaki rin kasi binaba ng SRP nya from previous gen considering yung ibang brands pataas ang trend ng price

Forgot if nabasa ko to sa isang article or advise ng agent ko

Of course, the CotY award just gave them license to ask for more

Yung 1.5V ang nagbago ng price, IIRC. Pero yun 2.0 sedan/hatch/Speed, same price pa rin naman

[Louie Anson Ng]

Yung 1.5V ang nagbago ng price, IIRC. Pero yun 2.0 sedan/hatch/Speed, same price pa rin naman

nasa magkano ang tinaas ngayon ng 1.5?

[OMNS19]

New here and looking into the Mazda 3. Been wondering about the battery, great to read feedback

[jcal68]

Yup. They would be riding on their laurels for being the 2014 Car of the Year.

[mang_pogs]

I noticed mas mtagtag un takbo lately ng mz3 (2.0), 5months na with me and im on 11t km. Is this normal? i think ill have it checked.

[yangmen]

Guys auto shut off ba ang rear window defogger switch. Napansin ko lang the light goes off after several minutes after pushing the switch.

[germs]

Guys auto shut off ba ang rear window defogger switch. Napansin ko lang the light goes off after several minutes after pushing the switch.

yes. 15 minutes i think

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Guys auto shut off ba ang rear window defogger switch. Napansin ko lang the light goes off after several minutes after pushing the switch.

yes. 15 minutes i think

[tolitsaso]

guys, saw this from olx.
thoughts?
Mazda3 Skyactiv 2015 Gps Navigation - Brand New For Sale Philippines - 70230947