2014 Mazda 3

[Yatta]

Sirs Gusto ko sana mag try ng ibang gas gamit ko ngaun is un suggest ng casa na shell fuel save. I heard sa other members kasi un fuel save medyo pigil sa hatak compare sa iba. im thinking of trying caltex silver or unioil?

Try a higher octane (good for high compression engines like Sky-Activ) gas like V-Power or Petron Blaze.

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Sirs Gusto ko sana mag try ng ibang gas gamit ko ngaun is un suggest ng casa na shell fuel save. I heard sa other members kasi un fuel save medyo pigil sa hatak compare sa iba. im thinking of trying caltex silver or unioil?

Try a higher octane (good for high compression engines like Sky-Activ) gas like V-Power or Petron Blaze.

[erick_214]

Seaoil unleaded para mura

[pzykie]

Master Trav, where did you get your pipes done? So so nice :-D

[travajante]

The reason why the automotive world has been raving about SkyActiv technology has been how Mazda was able to go ultra efficient hi-compression w/o the need of premium hi-octane petrol.
Hi compression conventional engines can never run on regular fuel w/o detonation/knock/pinging. It's a combination of those volcano shaped pistons, 4-2-1 header, low friction & lightweight components(both to control the hotter temps of hi comp) coupled w/ a Sky tranny that combines the benefits of both dual clutch & CVT....not to mention the stiff & light SkyActiv chassis & frame.
Going premium on a regular engine will prevent ping. But on the Sky that is tuned to run efficiently on regular unleaded w/o the ping, filling up w/ premium & hi-oc will yield you no gains, sorry to bust that octane bubble here.
Plus, not all hi-oc fuels are the same. Some are just spiked w/ boosters like xylene & ethanol to give higher octane ratings, but not necessarily w/ more energy. Some of these boosters are hygrcospic & can cause water accumulation in the fuel system. Others may even cause gum deposits & gunk...not things you'd want. Remember, the Achilles heel of these newer direct injection engines is them being more prone to carbon deposits.
You want proven gains? A JBR or K&N intake will give you a few more horses....a tune like Orange Virus could bring you even more.

In conclusion, you guys will be doing yourselves a favor by just sticking to Shell Fuel Save. Save that premium moolah for mods & not let Mazda have a scapegoat should your fuel system & injectors go berserk on you down the line.
Apologies for the rant, guys.
Happy Motorin'!!!

[plainBlack]

The reason why the automotive world has been raving about SkyActiv technology has been how Mazda was able to go ultra efficient hi-compression w/o the need of premium hi-octane petrol.
Hi compression conventional engines can never run on regular fuel w/o detonation/knock/pinging. It's a combination of those volcano shaped pistons, 4-2-1 header, low friction & lightweight components(both to control the hotter temps of hi comp) coupled w/ a Sky tranny that combines the benefits of both dual clutch & CVT....not to mention the stiff & light SkyActiv chassis & frame.
Going premium on a regular engine will prevent ping. But on the Sky that is tuned to run efficiently on regular unleaded w/o the ping, filling up w/ premium & hi-oc will yield you no gains, sorry to bust that octane bubble here.
Plus, not all hi-oc fuels are the same. Some are just spiked w/ boosters like xylene & ethanol to give higher octane ratings, but not necessarily w/ more energy. Some of these boosters are hygrcospic & can cause water accumulation in the fuel system. Others may even cause gum deposits & gunk...not things you'd want. Remember, the Achilles heel of these newer direct injection engines is them being more prone to carbon deposits.
You want proven gains? A JBR or K&N intake will give you a few more horses....a tune like Orange Virus could bring you even more.

In conclusion, you guys will be doing yourselves a favor by just sticking to Shell Fuel Save. Save that premium moolah for mods & not let Mazda have a scapegoat should your fuel system & injectors go berzerk on you down the line.
Apologies for the rant, guys.
Happy Motorin'!!!

Very well said! Thanks for the info sir! you're 'da best'. The master has spoken.
regarding with intakes, drop-in filters or short-ram or CAI?

[Yatta]

The reason why the automotive world has been raving about SkyActiv technology has been how Mazda was able to go ultra efficient hi-compression w/o the need of premium hi-octane petrol.
Hi compression conventional engines can never run on regular fuel w/o detonation/knock/pinging. It's a combination of those volcano shaped pistons, 4-2-1 header, low friction & lightweight components(both to control the hotter temps of hi comp) coupled w/ a Sky tranny that combines the benefits of both dual clutch & CVT....not to mention the stiff & light SkyActiv chassis & frame.
Going premium on a regular engine will prevent ping. But on the Sky that is tuned to run efficiently on regular unleaded w/o the ping, filling up w/ premium & hi-oc will yield you no gains, sorry to bust that octane bubble here.
Plus, not all hi-oc fuels are the same. Some are just spiked w/ boosters like xylene & ethanol to give higher octane ratings, but not necessarily w/ more energy. Some of these boosters are hygrcospic & can cause water accumulation in the fuel system. Others may even cause gum deposits & gunk...not things you'd want. Remember, the Achilles heel of these newer direct injection engines is them being more prone to carbon deposits.
You want proven gains? A JBR or K&N intake will give you a few more horses....a tune like Orange Virus could bring you even more.

In conclusion, you guys will be doing yourselves a favor by just sticking to Shell Fuel Save. Save that premium moolah for mods & not let Mazda have a scapegoat should your fuel system & injectors go berserk on you down the line.
Apologies for the rant, guys.
Happy Motorin'!!!

Yes, indeed hi-octane does not necessarily mean hi-energy fuel. Gas has the same amount of energy whether its unleaded 85 or 100+ octane. The lead or benzene is just there to stop it from pre-detonating (pinging) before the sparkplug ignites it. Newer engines will detect pinging and retard or advance the timing to prevent/minimize this. This is why some people feel a loss of power when using unleaded or lo-octane fuel. Its the engine trying to prevent damage to itself.

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The reason why the automotive world has been raving about SkyActiv technology has been how Mazda was able to go ultra efficient hi-compression w/o the need of premium hi-octane petrol.
Hi compression conventional engines can never run on regular fuel w/o detonation/knock/pinging. It's a combination of those volcano shaped pistons, 4-2-1 header, low friction & lightweight components(both to control the hotter temps of hi comp) coupled w/ a Sky tranny that combines the benefits of both dual clutch & CVT....not to mention the stiff & light SkyActiv chassis & frame.
Going premium on a regular engine will prevent ping. But on the Sky that is tuned to run efficiently on regular unleaded w/o the ping, filling up w/ premium & hi-oc will yield you no gains, sorry to bust that octane bubble here.
Plus, not all hi-oc fuels are the same. Some are just spiked w/ boosters like xylene & ethanol to give higher octane ratings, but not necessarily w/ more energy. Some of these boosters are hygrcospic & can cause water accumulation in the fuel system. Others may even cause gum deposits & gunk...not things you'd want. Remember, the Achilles heel of these newer direct injection engines is them being more prone to carbon deposits.
You want proven gains? A JBR or K&N intake will give you a few more horses....a tune like Orange Virus could bring you even more.

In conclusion, you guys will be doing yourselves a favor by just sticking to Shell Fuel Save. Save that premium moolah for mods & not let Mazda have a scapegoat should your fuel system & injectors go berserk on you down the line.
Apologies for the rant, guys.
Happy Motorin'!!!

Yes, indeed hi-octane does not necessarily mean hi-energy fuel. Gas has the same amount of energy whether its unleaded 85 or 100+ octane. The lead or benzene is just there to stop it from pre-detonating (pinging) before the sparkplug ignites it. Newer engines will detect pinging and retard or advance the timing to prevent/minimize this. This is why some people feel a loss of power when using unleaded or lo-octane fuel. Its the engine trying to prevent damage to itself.

[travajante]

Trav, where did you get your pipes done? So so nice :-D

Thanks, sir. I've Racing Beat Axleback on. It's a direct bolt on system anyone can DIY in an hour or less even w/o lifting or jacking up. The precision is spot on w/ no alignment issues.

[pzykie]

Wow! Adding a second pipe, DIY'd! I wish I have the skills (or courage) to be able to do that.

[travajante]

Very well said! Thanks for the info sir! you're 'da best'. The master has spoken.
regarding with intakes, drop-in filters or short-ram or CAI?

Hierarchy of intakes:
1.CAI
2.Short Ram
3.Drop in
That said, these are out for the 2.0:
The only CAI I've seen is from Injen. It sits pretty low & might get wet from notorious ph floods. An intake check valve is a good precaution here.
JBR & K&N Short Rams are proven. CorkSport will bring you leaner....
A K&N drop in is conservative but breathes better than stock.
Don't experiment w/ experiments. Chances are, you'll go too lean & pop that check engine light.

plainBlack sir, I'm just the team's hobo & welcoming doorman here...
'Master' is reserved for Geo_S....stay tuned for the Master Geo_S mod!!!!

[plainBlack]

Hierarchy of intakes:
1.CAI
2.Short Ram
3.Drop in
That said, these are out for the 2.0:
The only CAI I've seen is from Injen. It sits pretty low & might get wet from notorious ph floods. An intake check valve is a good precaution here.
JBR & K&N Short Rams are proven. CorkSport will bring you leaner....
A K&N drop in is conservative but breathes better than stock.
Don't experiment w/ experiments. Chances are, you'll go too lean & pop that check engine light.

plainBlack sir, I'm just the team's hobo & welcoming doorman here...
'Master' is reserved for Geo_S....stay tuned for the Master Geo_S mod!!!!

thanks again sir! I'll stick calling you master, for sure, sir Geo_S will take the name Grand Master.. hehehe, parang Taekwon-do lang, may degree of mastery..

[travajante]

thanks again sir! I'll stick calling you master, for sure, sir Geo_S will take the name Grand Master.. hehehe, parang Taekwon-do lang, may degree of mastery..

Humbly undeserving, sir. Just had a year's Mown3rship headstart over some on here. Y'all will surpass whatever knowledge is shared on here.

[travajante]

Wow! Adding a second pipe, DIY'd! I wish I have the skills (or courage) to be able to do that.

It's not as complex as you think, sir. Racing Beat is 1pc w/ 2 tips. All you gotta remove are 2 bolts & 4 rubber mounts.

[Geo_S]

thanks again sir! I'll stick calling you master, for sure, sir Geo_S will take the name Grand Master.. hehehe, parang Taekwon-do lang, may degree of mastery..

Bro plainBlack, no Grand Master here. Just a lowly follower of bro Travajante and his eccentricity. Bro James made some recommendations with regards to exhaust mod without spending much. He actually called it "bang for no buck". I have yet to find time to do this lowly mod. Hopefully I can do and test it this week. I'll keep you guys posted.

[travajante]

Bro plainBlack, no Grand Master here. Just a lowly follower of bro Travajante and his eccentricity, made some recommendations with regards to exhaust mod without spending much. He actually called it "bang for no buck". I have yet to find time to do this lowly mod. Hopefully I can do and test it this week. I'll keep you guys posted.

Hey there, GrandMast3r Geo....hope we'd literally get to hear the Geo mod within the week.
No word on Prokit ETA yet?

[travajante]

Yes, Yatta sir, that's what variable timing does, but not til SkyActiv, naturally aspirated engine compression ratios of 13-14:1 running on regular fuel were unheard of. Sky has offered everything- efficiency, performance & economy to the regular Juan, Maria, Joe & Jane.....& the other genius Mazda move? They hid it from Ford & waited til they dumped Mazda shares.
This has Toyota up in arms...that's why the North American Yaris & Scion iA are SkyActiv M2s under their skins.

[Yatta]

Just as an experiment (a Php5000/hr + gas experiment) someone should dyno a Skyactiv engine and see if theres a power difference between hi-octane and lo-octane gas.

[justdiy]

Sir trav,

Nice car! Simple mods for a true enthusiast!
Would you mind sharing with us the cost of purchase of that muffler?

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Sir trav,

Nice car! Simple mods for a true enthusiast!
Would you mind sharing with us the cost of purchase of that muffler?

[travajante]

Just as an experiment (a Php5000/hr + gas experiment) someone should dyno a Skyactiv engine and see if theres a power difference between hi-octane and lo-octane gas.

I believe Sid has done this a few times for both the 1.5 & 2.0. So w/ OVT....unless you get a tune, higher octane than specified will net you no better on Sky.

[Yatta]

I believe Sid has done this a few times for both the 1.5 & 2.0. So w/ OVT....unless you get a tune, higher octane than specified will net you no better on Sky.

I could be mistaken but Speedlab did the dyno but did not mention what fuel they used, much less a comparo between budget fuel vs higher priced ones.

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I believe Sid has done this a few times for both the 1.5 & 2.0. So w/ OVT....unless you get a tune, higher octane than specified will net you no better on Sky.

I could be mistaken but Speedlab did the dyno but did not mention what fuel they used, much less a comparo between budget fuel vs higher priced ones.

[travajante]

Thanks, justdiy sir. Here's a link to the RB:
http://www.racingbeat.com/Mazda-3/Ca...sts/71214.html

Before embarking on exhausts, please wait for the Geo_S mod.