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    Hi,

    Just wanted to ask the pros here if anyone tried both tires on 19s?
    Im looking for the best 245/45/19, im just not sure if PS4 has that spec

    Thanks!!


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    Pilot Sport 4 > Primacy 4 definitely. More grip (both wet and dry), same longevity as an ordinary tire, quiet on the road.

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    Just found out today ps4 doesnt have spec for 245/45/19, but im still leaning towards UHP tires, im not open to other brands


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post
    Just found out today ps4 doesnt have spec for 245/45/19, but im still leaning towards UHP tires, im not open to other brands


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    Typically kasi 245/35R19 yung common tire size. It's the one that matches the circumference 235/40R18 and 225/45R17 which are the common tire sizes.

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    Yes bro, anyway too bad just inquired to all reputable shops, got feedback na michelin will be refilling stocks of those tire size 2-3months pa. So im searching other brands.

    What about falken azenis? They offer UHP for 245/45 size. And also yokohama rv02. Same price range 11-12k ea


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post
    Yes bro, anyway too bad just inquired to all reputable shops, got feedback na michelin will be refilling stocks of those tire size 2-3months pa. So im searching other brands.

    What about falken azenis? They offer UHP for 245/45 size. And also yokohama rv02. Same price range 11-12k ea


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    Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 5 and Falken Azenis FK510.

    Yan yung mga comparable to the PS4 in terms of performance, comfort, longevity, and price.

    Yokohama RV02 not even in the same league. Entry level tire lang yan.

    What car are you putting it on pala?

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    Putting it on FXT bro, wanted to have UHP naman because in the past i always used Touring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post
    Putting it on FXT bro, wanted to have UHP naman because in the past i always used Touring.


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    I won’t put such tires on my FXT as it is supposed to be a performance-oriented all-purpose CUV. I guess maybe on a performance sedan or coupe, UHP tires would be welcome. Besides, despite the performance of the FXT, it helps if your tires can take on much harsher surfaces like mud, gravel, or unpaved roads.

    I use Bridgestone Duel HP Sport now which is better in terms of grip compared to the stock Dueler HL 400. Since it’s your car and you’re running on 19s, it is used most of the time on paved surfaces, you’re free to use UHPs on an FXT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    I won’t put such tires on my FXT as it is supposed to be a performance-oriented all-purpose CUV. I guess maybe on a performance sedan or coupe, UHP tires would be welcome. Besides, despite the performance of the FXT, it helps if your tires can take on much harsher surfaces like mud, gravel, or unpaved roads.

    I use Bridgestone Duel HP Sport now which is better in terms of grip compared to the stock Dueler HL 400. Since it’s your car and you’re running on 19s, it is used most of the time on paved surfaces, you’re free to use UHPs on an FXT.


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    Thanks for the feedback boss, may i know what mags you’re using with FXT? Main reason i wanted UHP becaust i just upgraded to light weight mags, and i think i dont have to shorten my budget on tires so im going all out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post
    Thanks for the feedback boss, may i know what mags you’re using with FXT? Main reason i wanted UHP becaust i just upgraded to light weight mags, and i think i dont have to shorten my budget on tires so im going all out.


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    There's a Pilot Sport 4 SUV. Just order it custom from a tire distributor since they don't usually carry stocks of that.

    MICHELIN Pilot Sport 4 SUV Tires | Michelin Tires Philippines

    No point getting a passenger-car Pilot Sport 4 for your FXT. You'll never reach the limit of grip anywhere outside of a track. PS4 SUV also has higher load rating and longer wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    There's a Pilot Sport 4 SUV. Just order it custom from a tire distributor since they don't usually carry stocks of that.

    MICHELIN Pilot Sport 4 SUV Tires | Michelin Tires Philippines

    No point getting a passenger-car Pilot Sport 4 for your FXT. You'll never reach the limit of grip anywhere outside of a track. PS4 SUV also has higher load rating and longer wear.

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    I will look into this, just got home from Ben’s ok and yea most tires of this size are just “by order”.
    Anyway to be more specific im trying to achieve something like thd subaru forester ts that came out of jp and aus. but it uses turanza on 245/45/19 too.


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    IMO pointless to use UHP tires on a commuter. Starting from my early 20s I've always had something like AD05/06, AD07, AD08 Neovas or Bridgestone RE-11s on my car. Nauubos (and IMO nasasayang) lang sa daily drive, plus they have more road noise and are prone to tramlining. Took me till my mid-30s before I learned that lesson hehe

    These days touring tires lang for daily, and have the UHPs (or semi-slicks) on a spare set of lightweight wheels for trackdays. For daily drive even lower tier tires like the RE003 are good enough.



    Though the Michelin PS 4S seemingly turns this paradigm on its head again. Good road noise and wet handling, plus close to the same level of grip as most 200-treadwear tires while using a 300-treadwear compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post
    Thanks for the feedback boss, may i know what mags you’re using with FXT? Main reason i wanted UHP becaust i just upgraded to light weight mags, and i think i dont have to shorten my budget on tires so im going all out.


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    My 2016 FXT is still riding on stock 18” rims with 225/55/18 tires. If you can find sporty SUV tires for 10k or less, that would be great.


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    Whistler suggested Latitude Sport 3 or Primacy SUV or PS4 SUV. You can check on these models.


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    Have both RE003 and PS4. Much better longevity and grip on the PS4, despite both priced roughly the same.

    I don't recommend the RE003 when you can get a PS4. I don't see any advantages of the RE003 vs the PS4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Have both RE003 and PS4. Much better longevity and grip on the PS4, despite both priced roughly the same.

    I don't recommend the RE003 when you can get a PS4. I don't see any advantages of the RE003 vs the PS4.

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    Found a set of michelin primacy4 st with the exact spec. I think it really fits my criteria, grip, braking distance and feedback for daily drive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post


    Found a set of michelin primacy4 st with the exact spec. I think it really fits my criteria, grip, braking distance and feedback for daily drive.


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    The Primacy 4 is a good tire - not PS4 good when it comes to outright grip, but a very good match for a crossover which won't be able to maximize the PS4's grip anyway. And the Primacy 4 should last longer. [emoji106]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    The Primacy 4 is a good tire - not PS4 good when it comes to outright grip, but a very good match for a crossover which won't be able to maximize the PS4's grip anyway. And the Primacy 4 should last longer. [emoji106]

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    Yes! I think this ticks everything, specially on wear department. I will test within a week as i have a travel schedule to olongapo, maybe i can use the usual subic twisties lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by AltisAndMZ3FAN View Post


    Found a set of michelin primacy4 st with the exact spec. I think it really fits my criteria, grip, braking distance and feedback for daily drive.


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    Test drive mo at high speeds. Let us know How it performs. I have not reached 15k km yet with my Dueler HP Sports and I will hold on to it for another 21k km.

    With my daily commute at SLEX, rarely do I get past 150kmh unlike when you’re in SCTEX where you can do 200kmh or more.

    Upgrade ka na rin to Brembo NAO pads. They are better than stock in both slow and fast braking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Test drive mo at high speeds. Let us know How it performs. I have not reached 15k km yet with my Dueler HP Sports and I will hold on to it for another 21k km.

    With my daily commute at SLEX, rarely do I get past 150kmh unlike when you’re in SCTEX where you can do 200kmh or more.

    Upgrade ka na rin to Brembo NAO pads. They are better than stock in both slow and fast braking.


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    This one im really interested, when did you replaced yours bro?

    Sorry off topic


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