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    Today, we have a minivan from Kia. Yes, we have 2019 Kia Sedona (AKA Kia Carnivals in Korea) with 2.2L Diesel mated to 8 speed automatic. Well, does Kia have what it takes to compete against rivals such as Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna, in mini ? Let’s see

    2.2L Diesel
    202hp*3,800rpm | 325lb.ft.*1,750~2,750
    8-Speed Automatic | FF

    Competition: Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna

    Kia Sedona 2.2 Diesel - Is this best minivan? Is it better than Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna? - YouTube
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    Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
    221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dockie20 View Post
    Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
    221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels
    Ayala employees will get an extra discount. Question is, how big is Ayala willing to lose to dispose the stockyard

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Ayala employees will get an extra discount. Question is, how big is Ayala willing to lose to dispose the stockyard
    I agree. Sana 250K level (wishful thinking). I can't think of any other vehicle na swak sa family as this one. Senior citizen and kids ang majority na sakay. Hindi sya kasing hirap sakyan as compared to SUV's or even vans. Not to mention the space. Ang mahal lang talaga...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dockie20 View Post
    Planning to buy either the LX 11 seater or EX 11 seater. Ano kaya effect ng COVID sa prices ng mga sasakyan? Magmumura kaya or mas mamahal? Balita ko may lalabas na bagong 2021 model nitong 3rd quarter ng 2020. Antayin kong lumabas yung bago para makakuha ng malaking discount sa lumang model.
    221 Kia Carnival Spotted Testing Overseas. Comes With A New Interior And Dashboard - ZigWheels
    Maganda talaga for me ang carnival as a family hauler, for kids and senior na kasama mo.
    Pero yang 11 seater naman nila joke na 4th row, unless gusto mo putulan ng mga paa pasahero mo.
    Sana binenta nila base trim na wala yung 4th row na yun, 8 to 9 seater (9 kung mapapayat or bata yung sa bench) kung gawin nila bench yung 3rd row, mapababa nila sa mas practical price siguru yun.

    Hindi ko maintindihan kasi strategy ng ayala sa kia ph. Bakit ba pinipilit 11 seater e wala naman ata target market na school bus o uv express ang carnival. Wala naman na din tax exemption for more than x seats so wala talagang point except numbers on paper lang sa capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Maganda talaga for me ang carnival as a family hauler, for kids and senior na kasama mo.
    Pero yang 11 seater naman nila joke na 4th row, unless gusto mo putulan ng mga paa pasahero mo.
    Sana binenta nila base trim na wala yung 4th row na yun, 8 to 9 seater (9 kung mapapayat or bata yung sa bench) kung gawin nila bench yung 3rd row, mapababa nila sa mas practical price siguru yun.

    Hindi ko maintindihan kasi strategy ng ayala sa kia ph. Bakit ba pinipilit 11 seater e wala naman ata target market na school bus o uv express ang carnival. Wala naman na din tax exemption for more than x seats so wala talagang point except numbers on paper lang sa capacity.
    Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

    Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dockie20 View Post
    Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

    Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.
    Uncle owned the first gen kia carens launched here back in 2009 to 2011 if memory serves me right. He owned it for 5 years before selling it. It was serviced by kia erod. Start was a breeze to own but kia erod always didnt have parts to fix things which was a pain as that car was really wonderful for a small family. I had driven the carens and the vgt montero doesnt hold a candle when it comes to power delivery. Shame on the maintenance front for that car but when it worked, two thumbs up for that car.

    A friend of mine owned 3 generations of the carnival, always replacing the carnival with the next gen. They also have it serviced at kia erod. They have backup cars though so they can handle some down time. They still use their carnival til now.

    For them, always similar issues, suspension failing within 2 years, turbo not lasting 3 years before having issues.

    I still love the carnival and just passing the time if after sales can improve along with a more practical base model being launched.

    Hopefully, ayala can fix it. Am not one to pursue mich on parts outside dealer for a car less than 5 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Uncle owned the first gen kia carens launched here back in 2009 to 2011 if memory serves me right. He owned it for 5 years before selling it. It was serviced by kia erod. Start was a breeze to own but kia erod always didnt have parts to fix things which was a pain as that car was really wonderful for a small family. I had driven the carens and the vgt montero doesnt hold a candle when it comes to power delivery. Shame on the maintenance front for that car but when it worked, two thumbs up for that car.

    A friend of mine owned 3 generations of the carnival, always replacing the carnival with the next gen. They also have it serviced at kia erod. They have backup cars though so they can handle some down time. They still use their carnival til now.

    For them, always similar issues, suspension failing within 2 years, turbo not lasting 3 years before having issues.

    I still love the carnival and just passing the time if after sales can improve along with a more practical base model being launched.

    Hopefully, ayala can fix it. Am not one to pursue mich on parts outside dealer for a car less than 5 years old.
    I highly appreciate the input. Maraming salamat po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dockie20 View Post
    Saw the review na halos wala na ngang space yung 4th row. hahaha. Ang kagandahan lang yung its folds flat so most likely for bagahe na lang sya pero it's nice to know na may option for 11 seats kung kinakailangan (wala nga lang angalan sa leg room.

    Do you own one? Sirain ba? Wala pa kasi akong experience with Kia. Toyota since birth. Hahaha.
    Korean car tops reliability

    219 Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. POWER

    https://**************/market-news/w...ar-brands-6699

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    Last edited by valskie01; April 17th, 2020 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Korean car tops reliability

    219 Initial Quality Study (IQS) | J.D. POWER

    https://**************/market-news/w...ar-brands-6699

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    Matibay na gawa nila since lumabas yung carens at picanto...

    Yung carens namin 2008 model wala naging major problem till now na nasa friend ko na

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