2012 Kia Rio

[cyberian]

guys hingi naman ng advise. officially, isa na ako sa mga kio owners na nagka engine knock. kinonfirm ito ng SA sa kia pasig. yung annoying noise na naririnig ko everytime na naka turn on ang ignition, parang diesel ang makina ko, tapos low power pa lalo na sa akyatan, eto na nga kinakatakutan ko. pero nung dinala ko last week, ang sabi ng isang SA sakin, mawawala daw ito pag 95 ang RON na gagamitin ko. base kasi sa experience nila, meron daw same engine knock problem, bagong rio, pinag fuel lang daw ng xcs tapos di na bumalik. last sunday kakafull tank ko lang ng xcs. nag experiment kasi ako ng mga unleaded fuels ng petron, shell at caltex tiningnan ko kung ano ang pinaka efficient. not knowing na eto pala magiging resulta. hay, kipit balikat na lang ako kahit na may kunting pagsisi dahil rio and vios ang pinagpilian ko talaga. mas malakas na nga kumonsumo ng gas, mag kakaengine knock pa. im taking the word of my SA na pag xcs ginamit ko mawawala yung ingay. im planning na dalawang full tank pag di pa rin nawala, babalik ko na sa kanila ito. any suggestions sa mga kia rio ex owners aside sa pagpalit sa xcs ano pa ba dapat ko ipacheck. sabi kasi nung SA, nung chineck ng computer nila wala daw sila makita. sabi ko hindi naman ganito ang ingay ng makina nung kinuha ko sa kanila. two months pa lang ang rio ko.

Just 45 minutes ago I just heard my first engine "knocking" sound. It happened first after slowing down on a corner then immediately applied gas (pedal halfway) but the transmission (in auto mode) is late to engaged a lower gear kaya na stress yong engine at umingay yong overhead camshafts. It sounded exactly like a diesel engine but the sound is finer and rapid not slow and loud like in a conventional diesel on idling. I just released the accelerator a bit to minimize the fuel supply and the engine smother out with no more sound on the valves & springs. I also noticed this again 3 times when accelerating quickly after a bend and overtaking. No similar sound so far on idling.

The fuel I used is Shell's V-Power Nitro+, my 3rd full tank and it's 60% consumed. I never experienced or noticed this on my two previous full tanks of PETRON XCS. I also noticed today that going uphill ay mas mabagal at hirap mag accelerate.

I was actually surprised hearing the noise because the car is an A/T and not manual, a problem which is apparently common to taxi cabs like the Nissan LEC series. Taxi drivers has a habit of engaging a gear too early when accelerating or late when decelerating resulting to a lot of overhead camshaft noises.

Made me think to stick to the XCS on my 4th full tank any day from now.

[yapoy86]

diba variable valve timing na yan?? normal lang yan... baka yung exhaust shielding yung nadinig nyo.. minsan tunog knocking yan pag nag vibrate..

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Just 45 minutes ago I just heard my first engine "knocking" sound. It happened first after slowing down on a corner then immediately applied gas (pedal halfway) but the transmission (in auto mode) is late to engaged a lower gear kaya na stress yong engine at umingay yong overhead camshafts. It sounded exactly like a diesel engine but the sound is finer and rapid not slow and loud like in a conventional diesel on idling. I just released the accelerator a bit to minimize the fuel supply and the engine smother out with no more sound on the valves & springs. I also noticed this again 3 times when accelerating quickly after a bend and overtaking. No similar sound so far on idling.

The fuel I used is Shell's V-Power Nitro+, my 3rd full tank and it's 60% consumed. I never experienced or noticed this on my two previous full tanks of PETRON XCS. I also noticed today that going uphill ay mas mabagal at hirap mag accelerate.

I was actually surprised hearing the noise because the car is an A/T and not manual, a problem which is apparently common to taxi cabs like the Nissan LEC series. Taxi drivers has a habit of engaging a gear too early when accelerating or late when decelerating resulting to a lot of overhead camshaft noises.

Made me think to stick to the XCS on my 4th full tank any day from now.

maybe because shell nitro+ is only 93 RON, XCS is 95.

This is the reason i stay away from using shell's premium gasoline kasi 93RON lang. kung gusto mo shell dapat yun nitro racing which is 97 RON pero masyado ng mahal. kaya lagi ko gamit caltex GOLD (95 RON) which is the advisable rating from our engine

[uwak18]

If you use Petron Blaze which is 100 RON. will it stop the knocking sound? Will it make the rio more fuel efficient in terms of KM/L (wag na natin isama yung price variable). Tama ba na ang Kia rio and hyundai accent ECU's are tuned to EURO4 ? So you need to use EURO4 compliant gas.

[cyberian]

maybe because shell nitro+ is only 93 RON, XCS is 95.

This is the reason i stay away from using shell's premium gasoline kasi 93RON lang. kung gusto mo shell dapat yun nitro racing which is 97 RON pero masyado ng mahal. kaya lagi ko gamit caltex GOLD (95 RON) which is the advisable rating from our engine

Wala pa ako nakitang Shell Nitro Racing dito sa Cagayan de Oro City. I tried the Nitro+ after being told it's 95RON and Shell FuelSave Unleaded is 93RON. Wow, I been had!

Anyway, I'll go back to Petron- my usual gas station for years. I'll might as well try Caltex Gold soon, medyo malayo lang yong station.

Thanks for the info mate!

[PsychoMp3]

*cyberian.

thanks for the reply. I've actually already test driven the Ford Fiesta, Honda Jazz 1.3, Honda city 1.5, Kia Rio EX Sedan, Kia rio EX Hatch.

The Fiesta is nice and all except one thing I'm sure I cannot live with. The stupid door lock is electronic, there are no individual door locks on the doors.

The Honda Jazz though I like it, has only a single chamber headlight for Hi/Lo Beam using H4, modifying will void my warranty.

Both Kia rio's have good drives when i tested them in Las Pinas and Fort Bonifacio. features are also good, but alot of people shot Kia down already due to parts not being available in aftermarket.

These are my 3 choices. I killed the Fiesta because of the door lock. The new Yaris is also my option if and when it does come out locally.

I like the rio because of the features but was/is expecting more form the engine, I am hoping for at least 8Km/L, my uncle's City 1.5 achieves 7-8 so does the 1.5 Jazz JDM or thai. The 2011 Honda CRV 2.0 achives 6 to 7KM/L.

I'm hoping that if the forums seem positive above 2T KMs the fuel will improve, my friend's 1.8 elantra achives 5 to 5.4 l/100KM.

I'm not looking into Hybrid territory but if needed I can go for Prius C, once the alternative fuel law is passed. Still have about 5 months to decide. Takot ko lang with the Jazz is ground clearance, since where I live is condo, takot ko sumayad. what's the actual ground clearance of the Rio Hatch loaded with 4 adults? and what's the ground clearance with only one driver?

Oh By the way, I use SeaOil Extreme 97 Octane on my RAV4. Has anyone tested this with the Kia rio EX?

[rio5]

*cyberian.

thanks for the reply. I've actually already test driven the Ford Fiesta, Honda Jazz 1.3, Honda city 1.5, Kia Rio EX Sedan, Kia rio EX Hatch.

The Fiesta is nice and all except one thing I'm sure I cannot live with. The stupid door lock is electronic, there are no individual door locks on the doors.

The Honda Jazz though I like it, has only a single chamber headlight for Hi/Lo Beam using H4, modifying will void my warranty.

Both Kia rio's have good drives when i tested them in Las Pinas and Fort Bonifacio. features are also good, but alot of people shot Kia down already due to parts not being available in aftermarket.

These are my 3 choices. I killed the Fiesta because of the door lock. The new Yaris is also my option if and when it does come out locally.

I like the rio because of the features but was/is expecting more form the engine, I am hoping for at least 8Km/L, my uncle's City 1.5 achieves 7-8 so does the 1.5 Jazz JDM or thai. The 2011 Honda CRV 2.0 achives 6 to 7KM/L.

I'm hoping that if the forums seem positive above 2T KMs the fuel will improve, my friend's 1.8 elantra achives 5 to 5.4 l/100KM.

I'm not looking into Hybrid territory but if needed I can go for Prius C, once the alternative fuel law is passed. Still have about 5 months to decide. Takot ko lang with the Jazz is ground clearance, since where I live is condo, takot ko sumayad. what's the actual ground clearance of the Rio Hatch loaded with 4 adults? and what's the ground clearance with only one driver?

Oh By the way, I use SeaOil Extreme 97 Octane on my RAV4. Has anyone tested this with the Kia rio EX?

hi psychomp3, i do hope too na mag improve nga itong fc ng rio5 namin ni cyberian,but as i have said mukang maimprove nga napansin ko lang ng mag 700km na yun odometer medyo gumaganda na from 14km/100L nasa 13.6km/100L na, regarding sa auto na ito ok naman sya value for money with all the features,meron lang silang kinalimutan,i can live with it kung mawala cruise control pero ang tinangal nila eh yun speed sensing door lock,lagi ko tuloy nalilimutan i-losk door pag umandar na,nasanay ako sa toyota,by the way galing pala ako toyota vios 1.5 A/T,ang fc ng vios ko sa highway noon is 16.999km/L, kanina lang hinataw ko rio5 ko sa slex nag register ng 6.0km/100L so roughly 16.666km/L yun clearance nya muka nga mababa kaya pag nag park ako sa mga mall di ko sinasagad sa hump baka tumama kasi

[PsychoMp3]

thanks for the response Rio5.

the reason i asked the ground clearance is because we also had a 2.4V 2007 Camry previously and well to make the long story short even entry and exit ramp sa condo sumyad yung front bumper, adn there was one floor sa condo i think it was 6th floor na tumatama yung under chassis ng car, but the Camry is a different ballgame altogether, it's long period, not wide, the RAV4 is wider. and that car can achieve 8 to 10KM/L using the shift-tronic.

the Jazz naman is 6" daw... dunno if that's true but the 6" clearance is with the 1.3 and JDM Jazz without body kit, if may body kit nasa 5 to 5.5" lang. so no no siya. and ayaw tanggalin ng casa yung bodykit.

The auto-lock, if I may ask, I know that is a feature that can be added, since my RAV4 is older by 13 years than the rio I don't have that feature but have used it on the 2001 1.8G corolla Altis, 2007 Camry 2.4V and our latest 2011 2.4V innova. Does the Rio lock when all doors are closed and the ignition is pressed. What i mean here is you're already in the car, all doors closed, then press the start if the doors will lock, my RAV4 is using Alien security, it was the popular alarm during 2002 after our RAV4 was recovered from a car nap.

[rio5]

Wala pa ako nakitang Shell Nitro Racing dito sa Cagayan de Oro City. I tried the Nitro+ after being told it's 95RON and Shell FuelSave Unleaded is 93RON. Wow, I been had!

Anyway, I'll go back to Petron- my usual gas station for years. I'll might as well try Caltex Gold soon, medyo malayo lang yong station.

Thanks for the info mate!

good day cyberian we have the same car nabasa ko threads dito and im a bit puzzled sa fc mo,ang sakin napansin ko lang ng mag 700 km na yun odometer ko mukang gumaganda fc from 14km/100L nasa 13.6km/100L na sya ngayon,same driving condition at way.this morning nag full tank ako ng caltex gold at hinataw ko sa slex 100-130km naka more than 50km ako register sya ng 6.0km/100L so that is roughly 16.666km per liter sa highway,pero im not counting on it gusto ko uli i-full tank then conpute,tom ill post it here kung ilan kasama na city driving just to be sure kung ano talaga average consumption nito.aircon ko pala nasa manual lang palagi at 24degress set im not using auto climate control maybe culprit din ito sa mataas na fc.try to use 95 octane never lower than that,subok ko na caltex gold

[cyberian]

good day cyberian we have the same car nabasa ko threads dito and im a bit puzzled sa fc mo,ang sakin napansin ko lang ng mag 700 km na yun odometer ko mukang gumaganda fc from 14km/100L nasa 13.6km/100L na sya ngayon,same driving condition at way.this morning nag full tank ako ng caltex gold at hinataw ko sa slex 100-130km naka more than 50km ako register sya ng 6.0km/100L so that is roughly 16.666km per liter sa highway,pero im not counting on it gusto ko uli i-full tank then conpute,tom ill post it here kung ilan kasama na city driving just to be sure kung ano talaga average consumption nito.aircon ko pala nasa manual lang palagi at 24degress set im not using auto climate control maybe culprit din ito sa mataas na fc.try to use 95 octane never lower than that,subok ko na caltex gold

Sir rio5, your highway fc is relatively the same figures with the others and I'm expecting the same. I'm currently less than 1/4 mark of my fuel gauge and expecting to refuel tomorrow. I hope my fc will improve on this 3rd full tank.

I'll try the Caltex Gold on the next full tank. Thanks.