2012 Kia Rio

**eido** · June 24th, 2012 03:30 AM

sir alam ko may fb page yung mga rio owners. try nyo sumali dun para may matanungan kayo ng fc. dun ata sila active hindi dito sa tsikot

**Mark Ilagan** · June 24th, 2012 09:06 AM

text deleted.. double post

**Mark Ilagan** · June 24th, 2012 09:11 AM

just noticed that about around after my 2012 rio a/t hit 2km, there was a marked change in the way it responded to driving situations:
eg: city driving before, the instant on board fc would move from 4 km/l during acceleration and go down to only about 7 to 9 km/l until stop... but now I noticed this going down to even around 35km/l (free wheeling) and normalizing to about 14km/l during constant speed (if this holds true, it would approximate t my previous 1.3 vios manual's fc)...

average onboard fc yesterday was a pleasant 12km/l Lucena to Makati back and forth... of mixed Hi way and stop and go Provincial roads dotted with slow moving trucks and tricycles ... rio loaded with 5 persons and a harvest of fresh buko in the trunk : )...

**cyberian** · June 24th, 2012 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by eido

sir alam ko may fb page yung mga rio owners. try nyo sumali dun para may matanungan kayo ng fc. dun ata sila active hindi dito sa tsikot

Ano fb account sir?

**pop3corn** · June 24th, 2012 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Ilagan

just noticed that about around after my 2012 rio a/t hit 2km, there was a marked change in the way it responded to driving situations:
eg: city driving before, the instant on board fc would move from 4 km/l during acceleration and go down to only about 7 to 9 km/l until stop... but now I noticed this going down to even around 35km/l (free wheeling) and normalizing to about 14km/l during constant speed (if this holds true, it would approximate t my previous 1.3 vios manual's fc)...

average onboard fc yesterday was a pleasant 12km/l Lucena to Makati back and forth... of mixed Hi way and stop and go Provincial roads dotted with slow moving trucks and tricycles ... rio loaded with 5 persons and a harvest of fresh buko in the trunk : )...

masisira ulo nyo kaka-monitor nyan pati odomoter eh tinitignan nyo.

simple lang to calculate your personalized consumption. 2-3 full tanks. for every full tank, reset trip meter.
compute FC by dividing total liters filled in full tank by total kilometers consumed on empty. compare data on 2-3 refills. in algebra FC is km/liter = total KM (on yellow light) / total liters filled on full tank.

in my case my kilometer consumed per full tank is 550 - 560 liters, and my average full tank on yellow light is between 67 to 69 liters of diesel. so yun sta fe ko 8.xx km/liter. yan ang daily ko pero noon tumakbo ako ng manaoag, that's 250km per way so almost 500km, and I consumed only less than half full tank, so I know my SF can be thrifty at double, so 16km+/liter on pure highway drive. our Ford Explorer EB on a Baguio run averaged 11km/liter, pero dito sa Manila it only averages 4km/liter. imagine the big drop on city driving. ganyan talaga gasolina lalo na pag dami idle stops. and mini-cars aren't an excuse. kaya nga mas gusto ko diesel eh

yan ang pinaka-accurate and personalized pa sa daily route and driving habits nyo.

those onboard trip computers are useless.

yun out of town driving, that's particularly useful only to determine kung ano talaga ang claim ng CASA sa fC, pero talagang ibang ang Manila driving. kahit si Einstein pa mag-compute nyan, hindi sya makaka-come-up ng equation, maliban na lang kung may averaging sya kung ilan pedestrian at ilan jeep ang biglang hihinto sa harap nyo. eh pano pa yun nagbebenta ng sampaguita at tubig sa kalye. and what about the average swervings you make due to stupid driver.

**Mark Ilagan** · June 24th, 2012 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by pop3corn

masisira ulo nyo kaka-monitor nyan pati odomoter eh tinitignan nyo.

simple lang to calculate your personalized consumption. 2-3 full tanks. for every full tank, reset trip meter.
compute FC by dividing total liters filled in full tank by total kilometers consumed on empty. compare data on 2-3 refills. in algebra FC is km/liter = total KM (on yellow light) / total liters filled on full tank.

in my case my kilometer consumed per full tank is 550 - 560 liters, and my average full tank on yellow light is between 67 to 69 liters of diesel. so yun sta fe ko 8.xx km/liter. yan ang daily ko pero noon tumakbo ako ng manaoag, that's 250km per way so almost 500km, and I consumed only less than half full tank, so I know my SF can be thrifty at double, so 16km+/liter on pure highway drive. our Ford Explorer EB on a Baguio run averaged 11km/liter, pero dito sa Manila it only averages 4km/liter. imagine the big drop on city driving. ganyan talaga gasolina lalo na pag dami idle stops. and mini-cars aren't an excuse. kaya nga mas gusto ko diesel eh

yan ang pinaka-accurate and personalized pa sa daily route and driving habits nyo.

those onboard trip computers are useless.

yun out of town driving, that's particularly useful only to determine kung ano talaga ang claim ng CASA sa fC, pero talagang ibang ang Manila driving. kahit si Einstein pa mag-compute nyan, hindi sya makaka-come-up ng equation, maliban na lang kung may averaging sya kung ilan pedestrian at ilan jeep ang biglang hihinto sa harap nyo. eh pano pa yun nagbebenta ng sampaguita at tubig sa kalye. and what about the average swervings you make due to stupid driver.

salamat sir .. wag naman po sana masisira ang ulo ko

... salamat po sa pag papaalala kung paano magcompute, pareho po pala tayo ng alam, check ko din po

... the whole point of my post is to note real time observation of present measurements as reflected in the on board comp as against what i observed in the past... realtime feedbacks which could be validated by using the "full tank" method of computing fc...

on the subject of Einstein's equation.. dyan po talagang masisira na ulo ko dyan

but i think it's possible to compute the consumption if they have an accurate sensor for measuring the amount of fuel burned through the system (eg. fuel injection,valves etc.. not really a techy in that) vs. the distance travelled (odomoter)....

agree with Manila driving.. iba talaga... mas mabilis yan compared po dito sa amin na halos every 30m ay kanto na ulit.. average speed would be less than 20kph on a daily basis...

again.. thanks for insights!

**Mark Ilagan** · June 24th, 2012 03:08 PM

deleted.. double post again....

**c_cube** · June 24th, 2012 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by cyberian

May I ask ano model Rio mo sir c_cube?

Your full tank of about 40L and distance to empty of 569kms, are both bigger than my Rio5. It seemed to me the sedan has bigger fuel tank.

HB unit ko..

drove it this weekend going to balayan batangas
All units are from trip com
- 6.7l/100km
- travelled 128 kms.
- avg sped was 43kms
Eco off
Mostly highway driving

When i got home here in manila, avg fc was 7.4l/100, with traffic at tagatay. Forgot to check other readings

Pansin ko pag city driving lakas talaga din ng konsumo, sa hway walang problema.

Mukhang ganito na talaga fc ng rio 1.4at

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**nimasreb** · June 25th, 2012 06:10 PM

guys hingi naman ng advise. officially, isa na ako sa mga kio owners na nagka engine knock. kinonfirm ito ng SA sa kia pasig. yung annoying noise na naririnig ko everytime na naka turn on ang ignition, parang diesel ang makina ko, tapos low power pa lalo na sa akyatan, eto na nga kinakatakutan ko. pero nung dinala ko last week, ang sabi ng isang SA sakin, mawawala daw ito pag 95 ang RON na gagamitin ko. base kasi sa experience nila, meron daw same engine knock problem, bagong rio, pinag fuel lang daw ng xcs tapos di na bumalik. last sunday kakafull tank ko lang ng xcs. nag experiment kasi ako ng mga unleaded fuels ng petron, shell at caltex tiningnan ko kung ano ang pinaka efficient. not knowing na eto pala magiging resulta. hay, kipit balikat na lang ako kahit na may kunting pagsisi dahil rio and vios ang pinagpilian ko talaga. mas malakas na nga kumonsumo ng gas, mag kakaengine knock pa. im taking the word of my SA na pag xcs ginamit ko mawawala yung ingay. im planning na dalawang full tank pag di pa rin nawala, babalik ko na sa kanila ito. any suggestions sa mga kia rio ex owners aside sa pagpalit sa xcs ano pa ba dapat ko ipacheck. sabi kasi nung SA, nung chineck ng computer nila wala daw sila makita. sabi ko hindi naman ganito ang ingay ng makina nung kinuha ko sa kanila. two months pa lang ang rio ko.

**PsychoMp3** · June 25th, 2012 06:46 PM

been monitoring this forum since the thread started. I agree with pop3corn. you don't need to check your odor to compute fc. but so far said mga post Hindi completely empty young Rio hung nag full tank. the rio's tank should be 42 or 45 I think, tapos name loload is just 32 to 35L so you still have about 10L. I've maximised my 1998 2.0L RAV4 4x4 5dr and I achieve 6.5km/l city. I am thinking to go for Kia Rio. but if that's the Fc parang nakakatakot. my full tank is usually 55 to 56 L. my tank capacity is 58L, 2L short of the 2006 to current RAV4. oh btw to ask, in the previous pages it was noted that the Rio uses more fuel in stop, I want to know is if it is D mode while stopped or in N mode?