2012 Kia Rio

**beckham07** · June 10th, 2012 08:50 PM

isang palit ko lang ng gasolina naresolve na knocking ko. madumi lang talaga yung nakarga.
unleaded gamit ko d na nagknock.....so fuel knock lang talaga not engine knock. magkaiba daw kse yun.

**spencersy** · June 10th, 2012 11:37 PM

For owners of 2012 Kia rio hatchback hows its performance? im thinking of getting one but having second thoughts but features are great kulang na lang sun roof btw do you have idea what kind of headlight bulb are installed? thanks.

**Walter** · June 10th, 2012 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by beckham07

isang palit ko lang ng gasolina naresolve na knocking ko. madumi lang talaga yung nakarga.
unleaded gamit ko d na nagknock.....so fuel knock lang talaga not engine knock. magkaiba daw kse yun.

Using fuel with lower octane rating than what is recommended will result in engine knock. Never heard of fuel knock.

**reuelc** · June 11th, 2012 12:34 AM

at last saw the kia rio hatch variant. according to sa aside from no LED, wala din daw autolight and rain sensor/auto wiper. maganda nga ang leather seats kahit combination. looks elegant inside compared to the all black cabin imo.

for 800k without the LED lights but with leather seats... not bad.

**spencersy** · June 11th, 2012 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by reuelc

at last saw the kia rio hatch variant. according to sa aside from no LED, wala din daw autolight and rain sensor/auto wiper. maganda nga ang leather seats kahit combination. looks elegant inside compared to the all black cabin imo.

for 800k without the LED lights but with leather seats... not bad.

what dealer did you saw this? what the body color?

**cyberian** · June 11th, 2012 10:40 PM

I don't know the advantage of ECO mode in the Rio. It's always ON when I'm driving but the fuel consumption is even worst than the Chevy Optra 1.6 of my family.

FC REPORT:

1st Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = mix city & highway, light to moderate traffic
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 70KM max. speed (highway)
- distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 42km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 15.4L/100km or 6.5km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 42km/9.2L = 4.56km/L

2nd Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, NO traffic (Sunday night on FC test run)
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 20-60km/hr (stops on red traffic lights and slow down on intersections)
- Distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 47km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 13.8L/100km or 7.2km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 47km/9.2L = 5.10km/L

3rd Fill: (full tank)
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Full tank at 35L (P1,900): distance to empty = 576km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, light to moderate with about 10% heavy
- Driving style, speed: light footed, variable
- Fuel gauge reading as of today: 1/4 level, 145 km distance to empty (trip computer)
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 16.2L/100km or 6.17km/L
- Actual kilometers reading since reset = 145kms
- Actual FC (manual computation) = not available yet, waiting for fuel low warning light to go off.
- My Prediction: around 6km/L on trip computer and actual FC will be around 4.5km/L if I based it on my 1st fill-up yield.

This is only based on my recollection and actual observation. Fuel economy may improved after break-in of 1,000 kms (1st PMS), which I seriously hope so. I haven't tried driving on pure highway (out of town) or driven the car aggressively (zoom-zoom). Also, I haven't tried driving in sport mode as I am driving and testing the unit on city for fc.

Granted the actual fuel consumption (manual computation) improves by 1-2 Liters, but still at 6.5km/L this Rio hatchback is looking more likely to be fuel guzzler for it's size, weight, classification/category and displacement. The much bigger, heavier and more powerful Altis 1.6 has better fc, ask any taxi drivers and the answer is always around 10Km/L City. I drove the Honda Fit 1.5 A/T & City (2011) 1.5 A/T, both has an average of 9.8L/100km City FC.

I cancelled the Bank P.O. for the 2012 Chevy Orlando for this after being convinced by the wife that this Rio is a practical choice for our family of 5 (8,11 & 18 yr old children), and fuel efficient nga daw sabi Kia. The looks, features, standard equipment and the prospect of low fuel economy are the things I took serious consideration.

I informed Kia salesman on my poor FC and he's advising me to give them 2 days to assess and check the unit once it reached 1,000 kms for its 1st PMS. They will perform some tests daw and mentioned plugging in a 1 liter fuel container direct to the engine to test manually the fc. I trust Kia will do it's job to ascertain the cause of the irregular and "not normal" fc on my Rio.

Although it's premature to say if this Rio is "malakas sa gas" at this time, one thing this Rio reminds me of at this time is the Land Cruiser I have back in college that has a 6-cylinder 2F gas engine with an average FC of 4km/L, but the fuel then costs around P8.00/L!

I'll be posting soon my FC on the 3rd fill-up as mentioned above.

**cyplanr** · June 11th, 2012 11:03 PM

try to compute using full tank again sir and not just partial fill up, at least here you don't bother with distance to empty and filled with the number of liters you have used up from your last fill up.

if you are really concerned with your FC, get an app for this like acar for android (am using this one for a 2007 Ford Focus 1.6L MT). i have the records since we bought it back in 07, ave km/L=10.08 and have spent PHP 520,983.33 for fuel alone

daily driver, naka 109K kms na

my wife's using this same app on her spark, pero 3 records lang din at 10.8km/li ang takbo - 1.0L A/T. normally nga lang dapat full tank lagi pag karga namin (automatic) at hindi sagad. pede rin naman partial fill ups, just make sure you record every fill up and tag it as partial.

**timo07** · June 12th, 2012 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by cyberian

I don't know the advantage of ECO mode in the Rio. It's always ON when I'm driving but the fuel consumption is even worst than the Chevy Optra 1.6 of my family.

FC REPORT:

1st Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = mix city & highway, light to moderate traffic
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 70KM max. speed (highway)
- distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 42km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 15.4L/100km or 6.5km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 42km/9.2L = 4.56km/L

2nd Fill:
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Filled up 9.2L (P500) unleaded: distance to empty = 154km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, NO traffic (Sunday night on FC test run)
- Driving style, speed: light footed, 20-60km/hr (stops on red traffic lights and slow down on intersections)
- Distance traveled on next fuel low warning light (same fuel left at 52km distance to empty) = 47km
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 13.8L/100km or 7.2km/L
- Actual FC (manual computation): 47km/9.2L = 5.10km/L

3rd Fill: (full tank)
- Fuel Low warning light triggered when fuel left is 52km (distance to empty on trip computer)
- Full tank at 35L (P1,900): distance to empty = 576km
- Road and traffic condition = CITY only, light to moderate with about 10% heavy
- Driving style, speed: light footed, variable
- Fuel gauge reading as of today: 1/4 level, 145 km distance to empty (trip computer)
- Trip computer Fuel Economy = 16.2L/100km or 6.17km/L
- Actual kilometers reading since reset = 145kms
- Actual FC (manual computation) = not available yet, waiting for fuel low warning light to go off.
- My Prediction: around 6km/L on trip computer and actual FC will be around 4.5km/L if I based it on my 1st fill-up yield.

This is only based on my recollection and actual observation. Fuel economy may improved after break-in of 1,000 kms (1st PMS), which I seriously hope so. I haven't tried driving on pure highway (out of town) or driven the car aggressively (zoom-zoom). Also, I haven't tried driving in sport mode as I am driving and testing the unit on city for fc.

Granted the actual fuel consumption (manual computation) improves by 1-2 Liters, but still at 6.5km/L this Rio hatchback is looking more likely to be fuel guzzler for it's size, weight, classification/category and displacement. The much bigger, heavier and more powerful Altis 1.6 has better fc, ask any taxi drivers and the answer is always around 10Km/L City. I drove the Honda Fit 1.5 A/T & City (2011) 1.5 A/T, both has an average of 9.8L/100km City FC.

I cancelled the Bank P.O. for the 2012 Chevy Orlando for this after being convinced by the wife that this Rio is a practical choice for our family of 5 (8,11 & 18 yr old children), and fuel efficient nga daw sabi Kia. The looks, features, standard equipment and the prospect of low fuel economy are the things I took serious consideration.

I informed Kia salesman on my poor FC and he's advising me to give them 2 days to assess and check the unit once it reached 1,000 kms for its 1st PMS. They will perform some tests daw and mentioned plugging in a 1 liter fuel container direct to the engine to test manually the fc. I trust Kia will do it's job to ascertain the cause of the irregular and "not normal" fc on my Rio.

Although it's premature to say if this Rio is "malakas sa gas" at this time, one thing this Rio reminds me of at this time is the Land Cruiser I have back in college that has a 6-cylinder 2F gas engine with an average FC of 4km/L, but the fuel then costs around P8.00/L!

I'll be posting soon my FC on the 3rd fill-up as mentioned above.

You really need to make a series of fill-ups and manual fc computation to make a reliable fc trend. As much as possible, fill up from the same station and on the same pump. It's just sad that Dealers will make false claims just to make the sale.

**cyberian** · June 12th, 2012 12:53 PM

I advice everyone planning to get a Rio to not get discourage on my fc. It's still premature and if indeed mine has a problem, it could be isolated and Kia may find a fix once they start checking the unit on the 1st PMS. So far, I am a happy owner of the hatch as well as the rest of my family. Our FC is just a concern we can live with.

**cyberian** · June 12th, 2012 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by timo07

You really need to make a series of fill-ups and manual fc computation to make a reliable fc trend. As much as possible, fill up from the same station and on the same pump. It's just sad that Dealers will make false claims just to make the sale.

I'll do that, it's where I'm going actually. Thanks!

Dealers claim of low fc are common everywhere but what I'm having is way below the normal fc of cars this size, displacement and weight. Mine may be an isolated case unless other owners of the same hatch will make similar claim.

I'll be making fc report on every full tank every now and then. Soon a fc trend will be establish on my ride.