Are you still using engine oil, 15W40 in your (MT) transmission?

**acergy09** · February 28th, 2015 12:06 AM

Hi guys...ask ko lang kung patuloy pa din yung practice nyong pag gamit ng engine oil as transmision oil sa Crosswind MT nyo...may group kasi sa FB na ang suggested naman nila na ilagay sa transmission ay gear oil 80W90....as for me, engine oil pa din gamit ko and mag 11 years na Crosswind ko, hanggang ngayon ok pa tranny ko...pero may mga nagpo post sa kanila na nakapag pagawa na sila ng tranny, like slide disc, etc...

survey lang dito kung yung gumagamit ng engine oil ay nagpa service na o nagpababa na ng tranny...TIA and regards sa inyo mga bros...

**Horsepower** · February 28th, 2015 01:46 AM

I don't have a crosswind but may I ask, why are you not using TRANSmission oil on your transmission box?

**sirkosero** · February 28th, 2015 07:34 AM

use engine oil for engines. transmission oil for the tranny.

unless otherwise stated sa manual na ang tranny fluid is same as engine oil. yung honda ata ganun

**jaggerx3** · February 28th, 2015 08:01 AM

Kung ano nasa manual yun sundin niyo. Alam ko engine oil tlga nilalagay sa tranny ng crosswind eh.

**jakewise** · February 28th, 2015 08:06 AM

my ride, a trooper, always had an engine oil in the trans as stated in the manual for 18 years already and never had my tranny pulled down yet

**kimbon** · February 28th, 2015 08:13 AM

engine oil is a lubricant where as tranny oil is a hydraulic fluid. although tranny oil has "some" lubricating property, but it's not good enough to protect an engine while an engine oil is an extremely good lubricant, but poor as hydraulic fluid.

**acergy09** · February 28th, 2015 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jakewise

my ride, a trooper, always had an engine oil in the trans as stated in the manual for 18 years already and never had my tranny pulled down yet

actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

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Originally Posted by jakewise

my ride, a trooper, always had an engine oil in the trans as stated in the manual for 18 years already and never had my tranny pulled down yet

actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

**jakewise** · February 28th, 2015 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by acergy09

actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

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actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

kailangan lang kasi minsan to refer to owner's manual than to refer to hearsays

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Originally Posted by acergy09

actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

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actually, madami hindi nakaka alam nyan bro eh...kaya pa hindi umaabot ng 8 years isuzu nila e may problema na tranny nila, yan ang napansin ko sa ibang member ng FB group ng Isuzu car club...

bro kimbon, matagal ng naging topic yan dito eh...na engine oil talaga gamit sa tranny ng crosswind, nasa manual ng crosswind yan eh....eto naman paliwanag ng mga master dyan...The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it... The principal differences between engine type oils and "extreme pressure" or EP gear oils is the ability to withstand very high contact pressures as seen in car final drives (axles), Gear oils also are designed to cope with very high contact stresses between gear teeth.And a "wet clutch" wont like it...

kailangan lang kasi minsan to refer to owner's manual than to refer to hearsays

**miked** · February 28th, 2015 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by kimbon

engine oil is a lubricant where as tranny oil is a hydraulic fluid. although tranny oil has "some" lubricating property, but it's not good enough to protect an engine while an engine oil is an extremely good lubricant, but poor as hydraulic fluid.

with respect to the topic, ang manual transmission is actually a non-hydraulic unit. simpleng meshing at sliding lang naman ng synchros at gears. walang control valve, oil pump etc. na kung saan hydraulic fluid (SAE 20 ATF, "oil ten"/SAE 10, Donax, etc.) ang gamitin for faster flow (along with the other qualities of a hydraulic fluid.)

even sa transmission ng mga elf trucks ng isuzu, they recommend the 5W-40 engine oil. imo, isuzu spec'd engine oil for its transmissions ay dahil siguro mas prone sa increased wear and tear ang synchronizers kapag gear oil kesa engine oil. since gear oil is more viscous than engine oil, mas matagal ang flow to where it needs to be, baka hirap ang synchro rings to cut through it (lalu na kung pudpod na yung internal grooves ng synchros).

kung hydraulic fluid naman (say SAE 20) masyado naman manipis. kaya optimum na siguro yung pagpili nila ng engine oil.