Should I sell my Trooper 2002 - Please Help!

[dsdelacruz1]

Hi Everyone! I posted this same message in another thread. So if i have violated some forum rules I'd like to apologize in advance.

May problema ako sa isuzu trooper ko palitin din ang cylinder head nandun pa ngayon sa Isuzu Pasig. After reading tons of PMs on this forum for the past two days and learning about our memeber's experiences I'm getting more frustrated.

It's a typical problem. Nagmix ang fuel and coolant. They have replaced the injectors and many times pinalitan na rin ang o-rings so wala nang pagtuturuan kundi yung cylinder head na dapat palitan because of a crack DAW. However hindi ito covered ng warranty altho imho the head might have been damage bec of the injector failure. I tried claiming for warranty but isuzu can only do injector replacements.

So here i am nagiisip kung papalitan ko pa ang cylinder head. I have several options in mind. gusto ko sana humingi ng opinion ninyo. They are the following:

1. Buy an aftermarket cyclinder head from Europe which cost 35k including shipping. kasama na din and gaskets and bolts. The only question is magkano ang sisngilin sakin ng customs kung maharang man. Buying an original head is not an option sobrang mahal kasi.
2. Someone is offering to buy the trooper "as is" at 300k. Should i just sell it?
3. Palitan ng engine and convert to the older type 4jg2 pero as I've learned from other posts, magiging manual siya. Altho i haven't read any posts confirming that this was successfully done.

Got worried when i read a member's (Baby Scar) last post on another thread when he mentioned that his trooper continued to show problems after replacing the heads. And nakakainis, magtututuro ng kung ano anong parts na dapat palitan ang casa. I figured the same thing can happen to my trooper. Ibenta ko na kaya?

Talagang mabigat sa bulsa. thanks in advance for your suggestions.

[renzo_d10]

Question is, are you willing to sell it ? FYI. 300k for a 2002 Trooper is VERY cheap. Market price for that trooper model nowadays is at 550K up.

Maybe you should try advertising your vehicle first in the internet and price it at 500K. For sure many will be interested with your vehicle. But please, don't hide the problems to your buyers ... be honest.

I just find the 300K too low. Unless your trooper has been flooded.

[Gerbo]

Question is, are you willing to sell it ? FYI. 300k for a 2002 Trooper is VERY cheap. Market price for that trooper model nowadays is at 550K up.

Maybe you should try advertising your vehicle first in the internet and price it at 500K. For sure many will be interested with your vehicle. But please, don't hide the problems to your buyers ... be honest.

I just find the 300K too low. Unless your trooper has been flooded.

Take into consideration palyado engine.

IMO, parang puso ng tao yan---pag ito bumigay---iba na usapan.

Fortunately, a vehicle is not irreplaceable. Time to disengaged.

[ghosthunter]

Why not get a 3rd party shop to take a look at your trooper?

The casa will only do so much and cost you a lot in parts and labor. You can get the same or better service outside the "casa".

You can try contacting SPEEDLAB or SPEEDYFIX if they can help you.

http://www.speedlab.com.ph/contact.php

http://www.speedyfixph.com/

[dsdelacruz1]

Question is, are you willing to sell it ? FYI. 300k for a 2002 Trooper is VERY cheap. Market price for that trooper model nowadays is at 550K up.

Maybe you should try advertising your vehicle first in the internet and price it at 500K. For sure many will be interested with your vehicle. But please, don't hide the problems to your buyers ... be honest.

I just find the 300K too low. Unless your trooper has been flooded.

Thanks! I'm giving myself another week to decide if i'll sell my trooper or not. thanks for your suggestion. that's exactly what i'll do. Hay.... frankly, i really love my trooper. it's the best damn vehicle i've ever had. power, reliablity sa offroad situations, baha etc... in fact this is my 2nd trooper. my first one was carjacked in 2005.....kaya nga lang eto... hehe

[dsdelacruz1]

Why not get a 3rd party shop to take a look at your trooper?

The casa will only do so much and cost you a lot in parts and labor. You can get the same or better service outside the "casa".

You can try contacting SPEEDLAB or SPEEDYFIX if they can help you.

http://www.speedlab.com.ph/contact.php

http://www.speedyfixph.com/

I called speedlab a few minutes ago and they gave me some suggestions. i'll go there later sa quezon ave. thanks.

[dsdelacruz1]

Take into consideration palyado engine.

IMO, parang puso ng tao yan---pag ito bumigay---iba na usapan.

Fortunately, a vehicle is not irreplaceable. Time to disengaged.

Totoo yan sir... my wife said the same thing... naaawa na rin siya sakin eh... hehe (baka ako ang disengaged niya pag hindi ko tinigilan to... hehe) as i've said i'm giving myself just a few days to decide. Many thanks...

[baby_scar]

Hi Everyone! I posted this same message in another thread. So if i have violated some forum rules I'd like to apologize in advance.

May problema ako sa isuzu trooper ko palitin din ang cylinder head nandun pa ngayon sa Isuzu Pasig. After reading tons of PMs on this forum for the past two days and learning about our memeber's experiences I'm getting more frustrated.

It's a typical problem. Nagmix ang fuel and coolant. They have replaced the injectors and many times pinalitan na rin ang o-rings so wala nang pagtuturuan kundi yung cylinder head na dapat palitan because of a crack DAW. However hindi ito covered ng warranty altho imho the head might have been damage bec of the injector failure. I tried claiming for warranty but isuzu can only do injector replacements.

So here i am nagiisip kung papalitan ko pa ang cylinder head. I have several options in mind. gusto ko sana humingi ng opinion ninyo. They are the following:

1. Buy an aftermarket cyclinder head from Europe which cost 35k including shipping. kasama na din and gaskets and bolts. The only question is magkano ang sisngilin sakin ng customs kung maharang man. Buying an original head is not an option sobrang mahal kasi.
2. Someone is offering to buy the trooper "as is" at 300k. Should i just sell it?
3. Palitan ng engine and convert to the older type 4jg2 pero as I've learned from other posts, magiging manual siya. Altho i haven't read any posts confirming that this was successfully done.

Got worried when i read a member's (Baby Scar) last post on another thread when he mentioned that his trooper continued to show problems after replacing the heads. And nakakainis, magtututuro ng kung ano anong parts na dapat palitan ang casa. I figured the same thing can happen to my trooper. Ibenta ko na kaya?

Talagang mabigat sa bulsa. thanks in advance for your suggestions.

i have the breakdown that i spent for the 2003 cylinder head and other parts

Cylinder and other Parts = 330,000 (Cylinder Head = 190,000)
Labor = 20,000

[blue_gambit]

if the only problem is the engine and nothing else, I'd go with an engine transplant. Just make sure your getting a good unit, why would you lose the automatic transmission? kaya naman ng 4jg2-tc yung auto tranny ah? Ang dami kaya japan surplus na bighorn na 4jg2-tc with auto tranny...

Mahina lang siguro mechanic nila kaya di ma retain yung A/t hehehe

[Starex_Gold]

i have the breakdown that i spent for the 2003 cylinder head and other parts

Cylinder and other Parts = 330,000 (Cylinder Head = 190,000)
Labor = 20,000

gumastos ka na ng ganyan sir? lintek ang mahal na.

saang casa ka nagpagawa?

ako kasi labor at misc repairs lang binayaran ko nung tinopak yung Trooper ko. tapos once lang nangyari yun. 20K kms na yung tinatakbo ng new engine nya

[oliver1013]

Maganda talaga kung sa maganda ang trooper, kaso kung moneypit na siya, IMO cut your losses, somewhere out there is a perfect vehicle waiting for you. Although minsan kahit sakit na sa ulo kung mahal mo talaga hahamakin ang lahat masunod ka lamang Parang pang chicks ata yun ah.

[Benzmizer]

I have had my Trooper since 2005 and I admit having replaced the injectors (free since under warranty) around 19k mileage. 105k mileage after (present) and no such problem occured.

Yes, the Trooper is a nice, dependable SUV. I sure hope you find a solution (with reasonable repair cost) and continue to own such a reliable vehicle.

Good luck!

[Starex_Gold]

I have had my Trooper since 2005 and I admit having replaced the injectors (free since under warranty) around 19k mileage. 105k mileage after (present) and no such problem occured.

Yes, the Trooper is a nice, dependable SUV. I sure hope you find a solution (with reasonable repair cost) and continue to own such a reliable vehicle.

Good luck!

di pala nagkakalayo mileage ng Trooper natin 147K na sa akin. 134K bumigay yung injectors. baliktad pala nangyari sa atin, sayo bago pa bumigay na. sa akin nalaspag na tsaka bumigay.

tama ka talagang dependable SUV yung Trooper. Kahit 4X2 lang kahit saan mo dalahin ayos parin.

[Benzmizer]

di pala nagkakalayo mileage ng Trooper natin 147K na sa akin. 134K bumigay yung injectors. baliktad pala nangyari sa atin, sayo bago pa bumigay na. sa akin nalaspag na tsaka bumigay.

tama ka talagang dependable SUV yung Trooper. Kahit 4X2 lang kahit saan mo dalahin ayos parin.

Going OT I know, but I agree with you. Basta CASA maintained all the way Trooper mo, you need not have to worry --- ika nga sa isang old commercial (forgot the name) NAKASANDAL KA SA PADER!

Taking the chance, sa mga Trooper-peeps diyan, change you radiator coolant every 20,000 kms with ISUZU LLC (Long Life Coolant) and LLC alone. The cost of 6-7 liters is waaaayyy cheaper than a busted O-Ring/cylinder head.

Nuff said.

[dsdelacruz1]

Maganda talaga kung sa maganda ang trooper, kaso kung moneypit na siya, IMO cut your losses, somewhere out there is a perfect vehicle waiting for you. Although minsan kahit sakit na sa ulo kung mahal mo talaga hahamakin ang lahat masunod ka lamang Parang pang chicks ata yun ah.

tama ka dyan sir... parang girlfriend na maluho na hindi madispatsa kasi sobrang seksi at okay ang PERFORMANCE!!! HIGH MAINTENANCE ika nga.....hehe

if you think about it... that's kind of mentality that trooper owners should have... it's an excellent vehicle to own but you simply have to accept it's maintenance demands... frequent oil change, regular o-ring replacements, regular checking of of all fluid levels, and the COOLANT!!! hehe

[dsdelacruz1]

i have the breakdown that i spent for the 2003 cylinder head and other parts

Cylinder and other Parts = 330,000 (Cylinder Head = 190,000)
Labor = 20,000

baby_scar: but after you replaced the heads etc... tumakbo ba ng maayos?

[kuyabanoy]

Maganda talaga kung sa maganda ang trooper, kaso kung moneypit na siya, IMO cut your losses, somewhere out there is a perfect vehicle waiting for you. Although minsan kahit sakit na sa ulo kung mahal mo talaga hahamakin ang lahat masunod ka lamang Parang pang chicks ata yun ah.

"cut your losses". I do not say that the car is no good. But the model you have had "not so good reviews" when it hit the market.

[Benzmizer]

"cut your losses". I do not say that the car is no good. But the model you have had "not so good reviews" when it hit the market.

Your statement sounds one and the same to me......

[dsdelacruz1]

As I've mentioned earlier, I found an aftermarket cyclinder head dealer sa UK. Does anyone know about this? Isuzu is now asking their counterparts in Europe regarding this pero wala pa kong feedback.

Kung may alam naman yung mga members natin dito please share them... thanks

[kuyabanoy]

As I've mentioned earlier, I found an aftermarket cyclinder head dealer sa UK. Does anyone know about this? Isuzu is now asking their counterparts in Europe regarding this pero wala pa kong feedback.

Kung may alam naman yung mga members natin dito please share them... thanks

Please post website of dealer. I could ask my friend in Paris to verify quality and availability.

I say you really like your trooper.