at last!!! I got my 2003 Trooper!!!

[benny010]

boybi, ang alam ko mas mataas pa rin ang grnd clearance ng trooper compared w/ crv..

OTEP, ano ba ang meaning ng H/T? what is the purpose of the tire? what's the difference between A/T & M/T? tnx... :wink:

[kimpOy]

HT -Highway tires, softer sidewall for a more smoother ride, conservative thread design, for long lasting and quiet ride
AT -All Terrain tires, mas madami ply for a loading and a bit more aggrssive tire deisgn
MT-mud terrains- for muds ofcourse and other off road terrains uses soft compound madaling mapudpod

[fundy]

boybi, why did you say that if the sir was equipped with abs, you could have prevented accidents? Nag lock ba wheels mo? abs does not shorten stopping distance, that's one of the many myths regarding the power of abs.

[Ungas]

Ground clearance comparo:

Trooper: 215mm
CRV: 205mm



The way I see it, the Trooper has only 10mm advantage despite of its bigger size than the CRV. And with that little advantage, many untrained eyes will not be able to notice it. 8O

[cta2]

sana walang magalit kung makulit...

what if the 2wd patrol has the same tires of the trooper (or the other way around)... will the LSD help substantially? or practically its useless considering its still 2wd.

Case in point: My father in law's 2wd patrol had a hard time climbing a steep loose gravel hill... one wheel was spinning... (no load or passengers in patrol).. he then askd everyone from another car to sit at the back of his patrol... that made the car climb the gravel road.

If he was using a trooper, still with no load or passengers, will the trooper make it due to the LSD? or he still needed to add weight to the rear (load passengers)

BTW - we were not trailing, we were just literally on an unpaved road going to the province. So my needs are not hard core 4x4 or height advantage is not really necessary.

[Ungas]

what if the 2wd patrol has the same tires of the trooper (or the other way around)... will the LSD help substantially? or practically its useless considering its still 2wd.

Even with the same tire/wheel specs the LSD will still function and live up to its name; Limited Slip Differential, hence its name.

Case in point: My father in law's 2wd patrol had a hard time climbing a steep loose gravel hill... one wheel was spinning... (no load or passengers in patrol).. he then askd everyone from another car to sit at the back of his patrol... that made the car climb the gravel road.

If he was using a trooper, still with no load or passengers, will the trooper make it due to the LSD? or he still needed to add weight to the rear (load passengers)

Additional load at the rear portion of the vehicle adds more traction to its rear driving wheels.

Even without passengers on the Trooper LSD will still work. Provided that one rear tire should slip first then LSD will automatically activate and lock both left and right driving wheels.

Please read on this previous thread with regards to your LSD queries, wats the meaning of LSD?

[boybi]

boybi, why did you say that if the sir was equipped with abs, you could have prevented accidents? Nag lock ba wheels mo? abs does not shorten stopping distance, that's one of the many myths regarding the power of abs.

yup, i have turned the steering wheels to the extreme left to avoid another vehicle, but the car still went straight.

[ARB]

i think what lsd does is it limits the differential action of the diffs. it will give torque to the other wheel that has traction but it is not entirely locked it just limits the speed difference on both wheels.

the driver can also maximize the lsd action by applying the hand brake to preload the clutch on the lsd. if the hand brakes are on the rear brakes, it will not work on hand brakes that are connected to the transmission.

[Ungas]

Pardon my ignorance, I stand corrected. LSD limits the free wheel spin not lock as posted from previous. Thanks for the correction ARB! :mrgreen:

[benny010]

ARB,
for 2003 troopers, where is the hand break connected (rear wheel or transmission)? for cars w/ hand break connected to transmission, how does it works?
:lol:

[ARB]

i think the trooper's hand brake is connected to the rear brakes. just check if may cable.
for those that are connected to the transmission, applying a little pressure to the brakes will do but not too much.

[OTEP]

Yung Patrol connected sa transmission ang handbrake. Kahit basa ang wheel brakes (after fording, etc.) may way to stop ka pa din. That is unless you go as deep as ungas and submerge the drum brake that surrounds the rear propeller shaft. Yun kasi ang handbrake ng Patrol.

On a Pajero, the handbrakes are an extra set of brakes (drum brakes) embedded in the rear disc brakes. So in total, the Pajero has six brakes. Hehehe.

[boybi]

Yung Patrol connected sa transmission ang handbrake. Kahit basa ang wheel brakes (after fording, etc.) may way to stop ka pa din. That is unless you go as deep as ungas and submerge the drum brake that surrounds the rear propeller shaft. Yun kasi ang handbrake ng Patrol.

di ba kapag disc brakes na, hindi na problem kung mabasa mga brakes, unlike drum brakes?

[Ungas]

di ba kapag disc brakes na, hindi na problem kung mabasa mga brakes, unlike drum brakes?

Basa pa rin naman ang contact points ng pads and discs after submerging them underwater. There is little brake slippage when those are still wet. Mas madali nga lang ito matuyo compared to drums.

Ample space is needed for drying them not like on drums.

[OTEP]

A film of water can always form on the disc surface. I almost learned this the hard way after wading through the flooded streets of Manila.A film of water can always form on the disc surface. I almost learned this the hard way after wading through the flooded streets of Manila.A film of water can always form on the disc surface. I almost learned this the hard way after wading through the flooded streets of Manila.

[Ungas]

OTEP::: Hmm... yung location na sinabi mo sounds familiar, parang nababasa ko yun somewhere here in tsikot. :D

[odell]

so mas mabilis masira pag lage nababasa?