Isuzu I-Van Test Drive Report

[kompressor]

Mas maniniwala pa ako sa mga owners na nagtetestify kesa sa ibang tao na ang dating puro third party questionable info ang tinetestify. Kesyo sabi daw ng mga mekaniko niya, kesyo sabi daw ng ibang Isuzu owners, etc....


Mismong mga Isuzu owner na nga ang mga nagrereklamo eh....

[uls]

at mas maniniwala ako sa mga may ari ng truck at mga may experience na sa iba't ibang brand ng truck at taon na gumagamit ng truck

si fanboi hanggang search lang sa internet. nabasa niya ito nabasa niya yan. siya mismo walang hands-on experience sa truck. baka di pa nga naka drive ng truck yan

(BTW, naka drive na ako ng elf, canter, dyna, forward, fuso fighter. ang di ko pa na-da-drive 10 wheeler at tractor-trailer. 10 wheeler (dumptruck and cargo) hanggang atras-abante lang sa loob ng yarda)

[mondragon]

although mr uls ang bukod tangi ko ndrive (snubukan ko lng naman) eh ung 97 model na hi lander... dati pgsama ko sa field office ng erpats ko sa probinsya puro hi lander.. simple but durable and reliable workhorse... minsan nakakausap ko mga forwarder eh... isuzu trucks gamit nila... hndi ba pwde gwing basehan un? eh sabi nga ng karamihan, crosswind pa lang dndrive mo parang truck na eh.. khit anong isuzu actually... eh forte ng isuzu ang trucks db at pg produce ng diesel engines....

[mondragon]

kahit sa ilang thread na mitsubishi or isuzu ms kompressor., mdami din ngsasabi sakit sa ulo mitsubishi nila, malakas kumain ng diesel..,mdami sympre mitsu fans ang madalas nila na gud coment eh ms comfort and mabilis kumpara sa isuzu... mostly.. mitsubishi may outrun the sales of isuzu in total because they have sedans ang a lot of variety in vehicles... pero sa truck sales... isuzu will still win... kumbaga ung isuzu pg dating sa trucks mala (tito,vic and joey) ang mga mitsu at ibp eh (willy revillame,randy,vice..etc..)

mgtanong k nga lang sa tao, anu ang isuzu?"e db mga truck un" malamang un sagot nila..kahit ako nung wla p ko alam sa sasakyan.. un din sagot ko eh.. kc mdalas ko makita sa daan isuzu trucks.. bkit kompressor, kung ako wala pa pambili ng sasakyan at gusto ko mkakita ng mga fidbacks,mga testimony, hndi ba pwde un? kasi madalas ko nakikita sa mga usapin d2, ang mga nega coments nila sa isuzu eh mabagal, maingay,vibrate much,dinosaur engine.... mdalas ganun cgro mga 90-95%... pero ung mga ngsasabi na palpak at mabilis lang ang buhay ng makina ng isuzu,matakaw sa krudo wasak agad...eh halos wala not even 5% na nahanap ko.. pero ung madalas na gud coment sa isuzu is reliable engines at matipid sa diesel....

[kompressor]

Again, hearsay, hearsay, hearsay. Plus, the people being used in comparison makes no real sense at all. Siguro ang ibig sabihin niya sa Isuzu=tito vic and joey eh pang comedy and pang unang panahon na entertainment lang ang Isuzu.


Gotta love discussions with fanboys who always end up shooting their own feet with their own gun.


No matter what you do Isuzu fanboy pretending not to be a sales agent, you can't sell me the i-ban. Give it a chance? Hell no. I'd rather spend my P1.2M++ on something na hindi pinilit.

[kompressor]

Sa totoo lang there's nothing really wrong with Isuzu being a car/truck manufacturer (I loved the Gemini diesels of the 80's). The thing I really find terribly wrong here is how Isuzu Philippines currently market their products to us. If they only offered their modern DiD engines and price competitively with other car makers, malamang everyone will switch to Isuzu utility vehicles. Kaso hindi eh. Ang ginagawa nila:

- old technology being dumped in the Philippines and selling them at high prices for profit and using nothing but their self-proclaimed name to vouch for its value

- gagawa ng isang bagay na not intended for it's use and ibebenta ng pagkamahal-mahal, like the i-ban, and again gagamitin ang isuzu brand kasi "reliable"

- gagawa ng isang variant ng AUV na napakalayo ng presyo sa mga counterparts and hindi man lang matapatan ang safety features and amenities ng competition, kasi may mga uninformed buyers pa rin sa lalawigan who are stuck to the 80's in terms of technology. Yes, maraming may technophobia sa mga probinsya and sila ang nagagatasan ng profits because of the self proclaimed "reliability" sales pitch



Again as far as giving the i-ban a chance, no need kasi sigurado meron at merong bibili nito because of brand loyalty/fanboyism especially sa mga probinsya. Yun lang, kawawa naman sila. They're not getting what they're paying for.

[mondragon]

old school diesels ang isuzu gaya ng sabi ng iba..wat about ung 4D56 ng mitsubishi hndi ba old school din un? e sa dami ng nabasa kong testimonials ms lamang padin sa reliability ang mga 4ja1/isuzu engines kumpara sa 4D56 pati s fuel efficiency eh..

lam mo pre, if isuzu will switch to advance direct injection diesels, baka mas mahal ang maintenance nun.. ung simplicity ng mga old school engines ng isuzu supreme reliability nun.. kahit jan k sa tabi2x mgpadiesel ok lng.. not sensitive sa diesel... tama lng iretain ng isuzu ang old engines nla since matitibay naman... kahit pano nga ng advance ng konti isuzu sa d-max at alterra nila.. ng crdi na din cla...

kung tutuusin ms mdami pang mahal na sasakyan ang mga mitsu,nissan,toyota compare sa isuzu eh...

[mondragon]

naniniwala aq kahit n mejo my di nga maganda sa pg gawa ng centro sa body ng i-van., mgkakaroon din nyan sa uv express services sa malls... nakakaaliw tignan.. my ngpark nga sa opis namin nun... tinignan ko un tapos tingin din aq sa urban.. parang nanliit c urban at hi-ace.. were hoping dis i-van will be able to compete sa mga vans ngaun

[kompressor]

Plain and simple facts:
- a truck's chassis and suspension system is designed to carry heavy payload/cargo
- a passenger van's chassis and suspension is designed for passenger carrying capacity and ride comfort
- a truck engine's purpose is to have low end torque for hauling heavy cargo
- a passenger van's engine's purpose is to bring the vehicle from point A to B without sacrificing passenger comfort (extreme vibrations), acceleration (for traffic stop and go situations), and top end (for long distance driving).
- Cargo won't mind if it's carrier is running slow but passengers do, which is why UV express shuttles are the prime choice nowadays for working commuters against the slow, non-airconditioned and bumpy jeepneys who stop at every opportunity to pick up passengers.
- Cargo won't mind very very very bumpy rides as long as they're delivered, but passengers DO especially on long drives.

Therefore, a light truck poorly transformed into a passenger van is of very very poor taste. Hence, the i-ban.


If Isuzu Philippines only introduced the Como van here fitted with a 4JB1 (even the non-turbo version will do), then that would've made better sense.

[kompressor]

Having read all the discussions here, all I could say is: Good luck Isuzu Philippines! You can all blame us if your truck to i-ban conversion flops big time. After all, we're the customers.


And good luck to the rabid sales agent! I hope you learn more from the inputs of all tsikoteers!