Isuzu Crosswind Owners Thread [ARCHIVED]

[rsnald]

i think among the crosswind owners in this forum, whether XTO, XL, XT or the XUV's, yung akin yata ang pinaka farthest driven so far... I just had my 35 th KM PMS; actually almost 36500 km na odometer ko nyayon after only 18 months of ownership. correct me na lang if i'm wrong fellow dieselers
so far ang mga parts na nag fail na are the ff:
- radiator replaced due to leak -- weak point daw to ng crosswind according to a mechanic i talked with. madalas daw yung sa may pipe going to the engine block nagle-leak. either mahinang klase ang radiator ng Denso or faulty lang talga ang location ng radiator ng crosswind. pansinin nyo yung radiator nyo during idling, during engine start-up and shutdown --have someone crank the engine and watch how the radiator vibrates. ang lakas! kaya di ako magtataka na magkaron ng crack yung pipe going to the engine.

- exhaust pipe crack - a recent discovery -- akala ko yung mga turbo boosted XTO's lang meron nito. but i recently discovered na may crack na yung exhaust pipe ko just after the engine block. tatlong section yung exhaust pipe natin: "A" daw yung first section - the pipe coming from the engine block tapos meron putol yon followed by the "B" section - yung gitna under the car body just before the muffler- tapos "C" ata yung after the muffler. madalas din daw problema sa mga crosswind to. ang advice sa kin nung mechanic, dapat daw meron pang isang putol yung exhaust pipe, dun sa "B" section, lalagyan nung parang metallic flexible connector - you'll see that in the "A" section. what they did was weld the crack, ala daw stock ng "A" section -- a familiar excuse - but they promised to have it replaced. nakita ko nga na madami silang stock ng "C" section which is the common problem sa turbo-boosted crosswinds.

- clutch repair kit = yung mga gasket with plunger - this was replaced during my 30 th KM PMS. They didnt really explain why. basta nakita ko na lang pinapalitan na nung mekaniko. I don't know if this is part of the regular PMS pero di ko naman nakita dun PMS checklist sa manual. anyway, buti na lang P420 lang yung repair kit.

- steering has become a bit loose. ewan lang kung dahil sa driving habits ko, pero yung ang sense ko. siguro dahil sa madalas ako malubak. tapos nung pina-align ko sa Goodyear, ok naman daw alignment. what they adjusted was the torsion bar, dahil daw sa di pantay yung height ng left side sa right side. nakita nila to when they compared the gap of my front wheels to the wheel well ( yun ba tawag dun - yung arch bordering your wheels?)
smoke emissions- generally ok pa naman pero parang lumakas yung usok after 30th KM. siguro it is really advisable to have our mufflers cleaned at 30th and have our vehicles recalibrated at 40TH KM.

so from the looks of it, yung mga parts other than the engine that are weak, ang pinakaweakest link ata are the radiator and exhaust pipe.
pag lumampas nako sa 50TH KM - the limit of our warranty, gagawin ko yung suggestion ng mekaniko na palagayan ng additional flexible connector sa exhaust pipe. further suggestions nung mechanic, hanapin nyo na daw lahat ng pwedeng papalitan just before the warranty expires. nabanggit nya rin yung mga gaskets/weatherstrips ng salamin, kaya eto ngayon ang oobserbahan ko.

hope this helps

[nelany]

Yung sa akin ay XTO A/T (~6k km ang odometer), so far ang pinapalitan na ng Isuzu ay yung exhaust pipe. Sections B and C na ang mga napalitan dito. Yung changes was made even before I reach 1000 km. Hindi ko pa ma ipabend yung pipe sa dulo para naideretso kasi minsan tumatama sa step bar sa likod pag sobra yung liko. Nilagyan lang ng harder rubber ng Isuzu para hindi ganong maglaro pag lumiliko. Pag tapos na yung warranty saka ko ipapabend yung tail pipe.

How about yung shock absorber, hindi ba sirain ito? Kasi napansin ko na mas mababa yung likod ko ng 1 cm sa iba ng sinikat ko yung likod. Ok lang daw iyon sabi ng Isuzu. Kita mo yung difference pag meron siyang nakatabing parehong model. Pag pinalitan ba ng shock sa likod ay tataas pa ito?

[marquez]

XUV07 :30500km 2 years and 3 mos na.
so far wala pang major replacement nangyari x wind ko only clutch overhaul nag crack daw rubber at 20k km at 25k km twice nag overhaul.
wala pa akong na notice either sa radiator and exhaust.

ang problema sakin ngaun ay ang mugs ko na goodyear sa mga XUV models kasi UNEVEN TIRE WEAR at parang nag wabble at 60kph ang ingay2x...
sabi ng isuzu GOODYEAr tires ng crosswind daw mostly the same case as mine.. they recoment MICHELNE,DUNLOP or BRIGEsTNE.. may na notice ba kayo sa gulong nyo na GoodYear XUV owners??

[lastpogi]

XUV07 :30500km 2 years and 3 mos na.
so far wala pang major replacement nangyari x wind ko only clutch overhaul nag crack daw rubber at 20k km at 25k km twice nag overhaul.
wala pa akong na notice either sa radiator and exhaust.

ang problema sakin ngaun ay ang mugs ko na goodyear sa mga XUV models kasi UNEVEN TIRE WEAR at parang nag wabble at 60kph ang ingay2x...
sabi ng isuzu GOODYEAr tires ng crosswind daw mostly the same case as mine.. they recoment MICHELNE,DUNLOP or BRIGEsTNE.. may na notice ba kayo sa gulong nyo na GoodYear XUV owners??

Walang kasalanan ang gulong sa uneven tire wear at wabble...nasa propper alignment, camber or caster alignment ng vehicle yan. I also experinced this to my XUV 08, nung pinacheck ko sa servitek they found out na may camber alignment problem. nung nagawa pina rotate ko 4 na gulong to check kung na correct yung problem, ayun, pumantay tire wear nya, nawala din wabble.

[kevin3000]

ask ko lang if magkano price nung michelin? na pang sportivo.. ganda kasi e..

[zynapse]

ei guys kmusta? tanong ko lng mga pare matagal ba tlga magdeliver ang isuzu? mag 3 weeks na kc nmin inaantay ung unit na 2010 sportivo..nung bumili kmi sa ibang brand dati less than 1 week nakuha agad nmin...ask ko narin samga naka 2010 sportivo kung kamusta naman ang performance ng sportivo nyo? satisfied ba?

[RedHorse]

rsnald,

yong tungkol sa clutch, mukhang namana pa yan sa hilander SLX... One more to check is the rear wheel brakes, sa driver side, sakit din daw yon sa hilander, baka di pa rin na resolve sa crosswind.

About tail pipes, last year, parang new year sa inteco, mga crosswind models, pumapasok sa service, hila hila na yang mga tubo :D :D :D

And the gas tank, nasa gilid pa rin, kahit sa XUV series na. Dapat nga sa rear na yon, dahil ang spare tire, ay rear door mounted na. Kaya pag full tank, tagilid tuloy ang tayo.

[OTEP]

Yung fuel tank hindi na ata malilipat iyon. Fuel tank din ng Fuego gamit diba?

Pwede bang dual spare tire ang XUV? :mrgreen:

[RedHorse]

Dual spare? Ba, ok yon, LC lang ang nakikita ko na meron. :D

[rsnald]

rsnald,

And the gas tank, nasa gilid pa rin, kahit sa XUV series na. Dapat nga sa rear na yon, dahil ang spare tire, ay rear door mounted na. Kaya pag full tank, tagilid tuloy ang tayo.

di ba mas ok yun in case of rear collisions? mas protected yung gas tank mo? saka matagtag dun sa likod, baka naman they're just trying to protect the fuel compartment from vibrations? ang ginawa man lang sana nila is to have the spare wheel in a hidden compartment para di naman takaw-nakaw.

about the rear brakes? ano specific problem? nag-i-squeal? sticking? di ba drum brakes sa likod nyan? so far ala namang problema drum brakes ko. ok naman kapit nya.

to nelany:
shocks? no problem so far. I think they're holding. mapanpansin mo naman yon pag matalbog na yung ride di ba? ano ba stock shocks ng crosswind?

[eddiemantilla2]

Dre,bago lang po ako dito sa grupo karegister lang. Yung unit ko 2003 xuv kakukuha lang. Makatanong sana kong ano ang frequency dapat sa oil change, sa engine at sa transmission.

ed














[ quote=rsnald;25718]di ba mas ok yun in case of rear collisions? mas protected yung gas tank mo? saka matagtag dun sa likod, baka naman they're just trying to protect the fuel compartment from vibrations? ang ginawa man lang sana nila is to have the spare wheel in a hidden compartment para di naman takaw-nakaw.

about the rear brakes? ano specific problem? nag-i-squeal? sticking? di ba drum brakes sa likod nyan? so far ala namang problema drum brakes ko. ok naman kapit nya.

to nelany:
shocks? no problem so far. I think they're holding. mapanpansin mo naman yon pag matalbog na yung ride di ba? ano ba stock shocks ng crosswind?[/quote]

[eddiemantilla2]

Dre,bago lang po ako dito sa grupo karegister lang. Yung unit ko 2003 xuv kakukuha lang. Makatanong sana kong ano ang frequency dapat sa oil change, sa engine at sa transmission.

ed[ quote=rsnald;25718]di ba mas ok yun in case of rear collisions? mas protected yung gas tank mo? saka matagtag dun sa likod, baka naman they're just trying to protect the fuel compartment from vibrations? ang ginawa man lang sana nila is to have the spare wheel in a hidden compartment para di naman takaw-nakaw.

about the rear brakes? ano specific problem? nag-i-squeal? sticking? di ba drum brakes sa likod nyan? so far ala namang problema drum brakes ko. ok naman kapit nya.

to nelany:
shocks? no problem so far. I think they're holding. mapanpansin mo naman yon pag matalbog na yung ride di ba? ano ba stock shocks ng crosswind?[/quote]

[x-wind]

rsnald

me 26tawkm pero nagpalit na ko ng radiatior last saturday.

san ka nag papaservice na casa?
bad trip na kasi ako sa isuzu alabng last dec.7 naka schedule ako to replace radiator pagdating ko wala raw stock intay daw ako pakuha pa sila tapos kabit pero ganon parin sabi ko sa kanila di sila nag palit so call ako manager sya na nag handle case ko nag set sya ng dec.14 hayun don palang napaltan, fog light ko nga di pa napalitan wala raw stock.


jake
rsnald

me 26tawkm pero nagpalit na ko ng radiatior last saturday.

san ka nag papaservice na casa?
bad trip na kasi ako sa isuzu alabng last dec.7 naka schedule ako to replace radiator pagdating ko wala raw stock intay daw ako pakuha pa sila tapos kabit pero ganon parin sabi ko sa kanila di sila nag palit so call ako manager sya na nag handle case ko nag set sya ng dec.14 hayun don palang napaltan, fog light ko nga di pa napalitan wala raw stock.


jake

[rsnald]

san ka nag papaservice na casa?
- inteco balintawak

[/quote]
bad trip na kasi ako sa isuzu alabng last dec.7 naka schedule ako to replace radiator pagdating ko wala raw stock intay daw ako pakuha pa sila tapos kabit pero ganon parin sabi ko sa kanila di sila nag palit so call ako manager sya na nag handle case ko nag set sya ng dec.14 hayun don palang napaltan, fog light ko nga di pa napalitan wala raw stock.
[/quote]

common pala tong ganitong problema across different service centers. baka naman Isuzu Philippines na ang may problema. it seems that they're not quick enough to provide the necessary parts when needed by the customers. part siguro ng cost cutting nila to minimize stocking on spare parts to minmize their stock handling costs. and another thing, mahina yung mg na contract nila na parts manufacturers - flawed yung design nila ng radiators and exhaust pipe. dapat nagparecall na sila by this time.

[OTEP]

rsnald,

Ok nga sa rear end collisions. Pero I think the primary reason why they placed the tank there is for cost cutting. Para isang tanke na lang sa lahat ng Crosswind at Fuego models.

[20vanda01]

rsnald, definitely 'yong mga nabanggit mo sa opening ng thread na ito ay makakatulong sa akin or sa ibang x-wing owners.
so far, ive driven 7100+ kilometers, pero oks pa naman lahat. minsan nga lang 'yong hood hindi nagsi-seat ng maayos kaya pagpatay ng engine minsan naka-kaskas 'yong lock against the hood.

one more thing, if you can recall what kilometer reading from your odo when the items failed, mas makakatulong sa amin, para ma-anticipate na. thanks ulit.

by the way, after warranty, benta mo na ba unit mo?

[RedHorse]

rsnald,

brake -- kakaroon ng leak. The conversation of the mechanic and partsman went like this:

mechanic: parts para sa rear brake ng hilander.

partsman: kaliwa o kanan.

mechanic: yong parating nasisira. Noong isang linggo, sampu pinalitan natin nito. Dapat alam mo na.

tanke: doon sa modified hilander of Jun Magno, the fuel tank was relocated, sa likod yata ng 2nd row seat. Well then, that mods was meant for racing. Dictates of the economy is so high, kaya sa dati pa rin. :D

[rsnald]

one more thing, if you can recall what kilometer reading from your odo when the items failed, mas makakatulong sa amin, para ma-anticipate na. thanks ulit.

by the way, after warranty, benta mo na ba unit mo?

for 20vanda01:
radiator leak : about 10,000 km. dec last year changed radiator, tapos nag recur, around 25 th km.

clutch kit replaced: 30 th km.

exhaust pipe crack: 35 th km but this could have happened gradually. makapal yung pipe galing from the engine block. once you hear something like two metal surfaces rubbing each other or a "tak tak tak tak" noise - like a loose metal plate clanging against another metal part -- while idling--- , inspect nyo agad yung exhaust pipes nyo. in fact, might be a good idea to inspect as early as possible and find if there are cracks that are starting to develop.

after warranty?
-nope, will not sell it. personal choice ko to sa for my car plan e despite all the defects, bilib pa rin ako sa isuzu engine. at least di yung engine ang may problema. naiakyat ko na to ng baguio, driven through stormy weather, waded through flooded streets, never failed me naman. and judging from the testimonies of those who previously owned hilanders, mukhang highly reliable naman ang 4JA1. engine ang hinabol ko dito, hindi yung amenities.

additional note:
yung fan belts pala tends to make noise at 35 th km-- natakot ako kala ko bearing sa alternator or compressor. siguro, indication na tumitigas na yung rubber. simple lang ang solusyon, pahiran nyo ng engine oil yung belt. makes sense coz this will tend to soften the belt a bit without really destroying it. belt conditioning lang.

- power windows: make it a point to exercise your power windows lalo na yung sa likod. para daw di ma-stuck up yung mga motors at laging maging madulas yung rubber gaskets ng window. minsan you may have to lubricate the rubber gaskets with mild oil para dumulas. ako tubig lag oks na yon.

window washer : nagbabara yung nozzles sa katagalan. siguro dahil sa deepwell ang tubig sa antipolo. what i did was replace the nozzles with the wide-spray nozzles -- classified na ba yon as mods? :lol:

i think it would also be a good idea to drain the radiator every six months or at least once a year. kahit anong alaga mo sa cooling water, dudumi at dudumi pa rin yun. ambantot pa nung tubig na lalabas don. :lol:

to sir redhorse:
nagle-leak yung pistons ng brake cylinder? baka yung rubber gaskets ang may problema sa dati. anyway. check ko nga next time na linisin nila brakes ko. ang familiarity ko lang sa drum brakes e yung sa volkswagen and sa owner type jeeps e.

[mackvil]

[quote="rsnald"]

exhaust pipe crack: 35 th km but this could have happened gradually. makapal yung pipe galing from the engine block. once you hear something like two metal surfaces rubbing each other or a "tak tak tak tak" noise - like a loose metal plate clanging against another metal part -- while idling--- , inspect nyo agad yung exhaust pipes nyo. in fact, might be a good idea to inspect as early as possible and find if there are cracks that are starting to develop.

yung exhaust pipe part namin napalitan na kaagad even before reaching the 5k km mark.. yan pala sakit ng crosswind.....

[Olive Drab]

i heard another story yesterday at ford pampanga.
may 3-day old daw na crosswind from isuzu pampanga, binangga sa side tapos nag-turn turtle. medyo mataas daw kasi ang crosswind tapos payat.
apparently the all new expedition is beside us.