isuzu crosswind '04 steering gear box

[gdflores_168]

Mga sir, newbie here needing your help. We recently acquired Crosswind '04 (3rd owner na kami) and we later found out na nabangga pla ng previous owner. Sabi sa casa faulty na yung steering gear box causing excessive play. halos gumegewang na kami sa NLEX at 80kph. i Had the tie rod ends replaced, checked the centerlink, ok pa naman cya.
Wheels already balanced and aligned, Stablizer bar bushing checked. Coupler also in good condition. So, gear box na lang ang possible culprit.
Ask ko lang po, will i Change the gearbox or have it repaired? Meron po ba overhauling ng power assisted gear box? Please help. Medyo madugo po ung b-new steering gear box from ISUZU Center. I read sa ibang thread na kaya i-repair ang gear box. Thanks po!

[Benzmizer]

Mga sir, newbie here needing your help. We recently acquired Crosswind '04 (3rd owner na kami) and we later found out na nabangga pla ng previous owner. Sabi sa casa faulty na yung steering gear box causing excessive play. halos gumegewang na kami sa NLEX at 80kph. i Had the tie rod ends replaced, checked the centerlink, ok pa naman cya.
Wheels already balanced and aligned, Stablizer bar bushing checked. Coupler also in good condition. So, gear box na lang ang possible culprit.
Ask ko lang po, will i Change the gearbox or have it repaired? Meron po ba overhauling ng power assisted gear box? Please help. Medyo madugo po ung b-new steering gear box from ISUZU Center. I read sa ibang thread na kaya i-repair ang gear box. Thanks po!

The usual protocol is to have it repaired/adjusted first. You would only need a repair kit to do this. It is only after the steering box is opened you would know if more repairs (replacement) is required.

What did the CASA recommend pala? If they said repair using repair kit, pwede.

[gdflores_168]

Thank you sir Benz! Had it checked today, sabi ng mekanik okey naman yung gear box. What we noticed pag iniikot yung manibela half turn left-right, gumagalaw taas-baba yung body. baka daw loose balljoint kaya off-camber ang wheel. Hopefully mkita na talaga ang problema. Fortunately, hindi po gearbox like ISUZU said. Their assessor came with that conclusion within minutes w/out even looking under the chasis.

[TholitzReloaded]

Thank you sir Benz! Had it checked today, sabi ng mekanik okey naman yung gear box. What we noticed pag iniikot yung manibela half turn left-right, gumagalaw taas-baba yung body. baka daw loose balljoint kaya off-camber ang wheel. Hopefully mkita na talaga ang problema. Fortunately, hindi po gearbox like ISUZU said. Their assessor came with that conclusion within minutes w/out even looking under the chasis.

That's why we really need second opinion before even touching the said spare part that has an issue., just to be sure na di bolang kristal ang ginamit sa paghanap ng problem.

[gdflores_168]

Yes sir! If by chance I accepted their assessment and had the gear box replaced, di rin maso-solve ang problem. Lalaki lang ng lalaki ang gastos till they overhauled the whole front end. 75thou pa naman sa knila ang gear box,35 thou for the power steering pump assembly. WALCO is offering 45thou for b-new gearbox, 22thou for the pump.

[gdflores_168]

Ok na po Sir Benz, wala na free play yung steering. It cost me less than 3thou. Thanks po!

[Benzmizer]

Ok na po Sir Benz, wala na free play yung steering. It cost me less than 3thou. Thanks po!

Congrats!

Specially if you are unfamiliar with the attending mechanic or shop, 2nd opinion is always best. Not to discredit forums like TSIKOT too.... madami din tayong (yup, me included) natututunan sa iba.

[xfreemanx]

Ok na po Sir Benz, wala na free play yung steering. It cost me less than 3thou. Thanks po!

Sir, saan mo po pinagawa? Pa send naman ng details.
TIA

[x-wind]

Ok na po Sir Benz, wala na free play yung steering. It cost me less than 3thou. Thanks po!

Ano naging problem and solution, so next time every body here may
pwede maging basis pag same problem na encounter.

Thanks in advance.

[timtonymanu]

sa mga gurus natin dito, paano po ba i-flush and fill and power steering fluid ng ating mga xwind?

And every ilang thousand kilometers dapat gawin to?

thanks for the help

[jaz014]

sa mga gurus natin dito, paano po ba i-flush and fill and power steering fluid ng ating mga xwind?

And every ilang thousand kilometers dapat gawin to?

thanks for the help

yung first question lang masagot ko kasi yung second hindi ko nakita sa owners manual...

first thing you need to do is lift mo both front wheels, then tanggalin mo muna yung fluid sa baso by using a syringe para hindi messy.

second remove mo yung upper hose (return) yung mas payat yun na hose bunutin mo yun. maglagay ka ng plastic bottle (500ml) dun sa hose na inalis mo para macollect mo dun yung old fluid.

third steer mo yung steering wheel todo left and todo right for several times...lalabas na ang old fluid mo..take note engine off ito during this procedure....

a flush of new fluid will do bago ka maglagay ng new fluid just follow the step above....hope this helps...base ito sa owners manual...

dun sa second question kaya nasiraan din ako ng power steering pump kasi hindi ko din alam kung kelan need magpalit ng fluid (dexron IIe) sa ride ko...kailan nga ba?mas matagal ba magpalit kung synthetic compare sa mineral? and ano ang signs na dapat ng palitan or routine inspection needed?....by the way mahirapan ka na din makakita ng dexron II nasa suking auto supply ngayon is dexron III backward compatible naman ito....

[RakataK]

sa mga gurus natin dito, paano po ba i-flush and fill and power steering fluid ng ating mga xwind?

And every ilang thousand kilometers dapat gawin to?

thanks for the help

Sir it's every 80 thousand kilometers.

[timtonymanu]

thanks a lot jaz014 and RakataK!:bouncealt:

Nasira kasi ang power steering gearbox ng xwind ni biyenan at yung non- replacement ng fluid ang suspect ng casa, kaya naging aware ako tuloy, hehe

[fabilioh]

thanks a lot jaz014 and RakataK!:bouncealt:

Nasira kasi ang power steering gearbox ng xwind ni biyenan at yung non- replacement ng fluid ang suspect ng casa, kaya naging aware ako tuloy, hehe

sir tanong ko lang paano nagsimula sir ng gearbox niyo, ano mga unang signs? sa akin kasi magaan sa una tapos bumibigat yung steering pag tagal.

[timtonymanu]

sir tanong ko lang paano nagsimula sir ng gearbox niyo, ano mga unang signs? sa akin kasi magaan sa una tapos bumibigat yung steering pag tagal.

Actually, kay biyenan ko yung crosswind (xuv), yung sa akin swerte at kahit mas lumang model (xto) di pa naman nagluko gearbox.

Pero ayon sa manugang na driver ni biyenan ko, bigla na lang daw niya naramdaman na bumibigat yung manibela, and before pa mapa-check-up, ayun, tumagas na lahat ng fluid ng power steering. Nag-try yung mechanic na palitan ng repair kit, pero leak pa din, kaya napa-bili tuloy ng gearbox.

[fabilioh]

Actually, kay biyenan ko yung crosswind (xuv), yung sa akin swerte at kahit mas lumang model (xto) di pa naman nagluko gearbox.

Pero ayon sa manugang na driver ni biyenan ko, bigla na lang daw niya naramdaman na bumibigat yung manibela, and before pa mapa-check-up, ayun, tumagas na lahat ng fluid ng power steering. Nag-try yung mechanic na palitan ng repair kit, pero leak pa din, kaya napa-bili tuloy ng gearbox.

ah ok, salamat sa feedback sir, yung akin naman mas luma pa, hilander. Pero ito wala naman leak, tumitgas lang talaga steering. hopefully pump lang talaga problem

[slickRic]

ah ok, salamat sa feedback sir, yung akin naman mas luma pa, hilander. Pero ito wala naman leak, tumitgas lang talaga steering. hopefully pump lang talaga problem

sir fabilioh.. ganyan din yung sakin.. tumitigas yung steering.. check out for the belts.. specially yung sa condenser.. yun kasi naging problem nung sakin.. tignan mo kung loose na yung mga pinagkakapitan ng belt.. and always check for the belt kung maluwag ba.. any WEIRD color under the hood? yung sakin kasi.. my parang red sa ilalim ng hood (sign).. hindi ko pinansin ayun my problema na pala..

[fabilioh]

sir fabilioh.. ganyan din yung sakin.. tumitigas yung steering.. check out for the belts.. specially yung sa condenser.. yun kasi naging problem nung sakin.. tignan mo kung loose na yung mga pinagkakapitan ng belt.. and always check for the belt kung maluwag ba.. any WEIRD color under the hood? yung sakin kasi.. my parang red sa ilalim ng hood (sign).. hindi ko pinansin ayun my problema na pala..

hindi naman maluwag belts sir eh..pero baka yung kinakabitan, kasi minsan may squeaking sound pag mababa idling tapos pag patay ng makina. ano ba yung belt sa condenser, yan ba yung sa aircon/alternator? wala naman weird color under the hood. anong ginawa mo sir palit belt lang?

[slickRic]

hindi naman maluwag belts sir eh..pero baka yung kinakabitan, kasi minsan may squeaking sound pag mababa idling tapos pag patay ng makina. ano ba yung belt sa condenser, yan ba yung sa aircon/alternator? wala naman weird color under the hood. anong ginawa mo sir palit belt lang?

actually.. kakapalit ko lang ng belt nun before naging ganun yung steering ko.. pero watch out for that squeaking sounds.. ganyan na ganyan yung sakin.. oo yun ung sa aircon.. sa condenser yung nadale sakin.. yung weird color na sinabi ko is color red.. yung mga loob ng condenser ko sira na pala kaya ganun bakal sa bakal na yung kiskisan.. kaya napudpud sya.. unang sabi sakin is palitan ko na daw buong condenser which is talagang mejo mahal cost around 12k yata.. kaya nag pa second opinion ako sa iba.. good thing sa second pinalitan lang nila yung pulley ng condenser kasi yun ung napudpud then its all good na ulet.. walang na yung squeaky sounds and ok na ulet yung steering ko.. yan yung naging problem nung sakin..

-advice ko nalang check mo lahat ng kinakabitan ng belt habang umaandar yung makina para makita mo kung meron bang wiggling sa mga yun.. kasi kung meron nag wiggling dun thats the problem..

[fabilioh]

actually.. kakapalit ko lang ng belt nun before naging ganun yung steering ko.. pero watch out for that squeaking sounds.. ganyan na ganyan yung sakin.. oo yun ung sa aircon.. sa condenser yung nadale sakin.. yung weird color na sinabi ko is color red.. yung mga loob ng condenser ko sira na pala kaya ganun bakal sa bakal na yung kiskisan.. kaya napudpud sya.. unang sabi sakin is palitan ko na daw buong condenser which is talagang mejo mahal cost around 12k yata.. kaya nag pa second opinion ako sa iba.. good thing sa second pinalitan lang nila yung pulley ng condenser kasi yun ung napudpud then its all good na ulet.. walang na yung squeaky sounds and ok na ulet yung steering ko.. yan yung naging problem nung sakin..

-advice ko nalang check mo lahat ng kinakabitan ng belt habang umaandar yung makina para makita mo kung meron bang wiggling sa mga yun.. kasi kung meron nag wiggling dun thats the problem..

so far wala naman wiggling, pero pa check ko pa rin ulit to be sure. Salamat bro!