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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    oo nga. i find that, "funny".
    i would have charged according to weight, 'ala passenger car. after all, whether passenger car or utility vehicle, its heavier weight does translate roughly to road wear and tear. i would not have created a "utility vehicle" category at all, and just used the passenger car category.
    But insurance companies classify SUVs as commercial vehicles so premiums are higher. There's a disconnect somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    But insurance companies classify SUVs as commercial vehicles so premiums are higher. There's a disconnect somewhere
    i agree. and i suspect, there's a political reason behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    oo nga. i find that, "funny".
    i would have charged according to weight, 'ala passenger car. after all, whether passenger car or utility vehicle, its heavier weight does translate roughly to road wear and tear. i would not have created a "utility vehicle" category at all, and just used the passenger car category.
    I would like to think the lower registration of UVs is a result of them having the capacity to haul more people per weight vs 5-seater cars. Hula ko lang. hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airolynx View Post
    I would like to think the lower registration of UVs is a result of them having the capacity to haul more people per weight vs 5-seater cars. Hula ko lang. hehe.
    more weight in the same surface area. that, to me, equates to more wear and tear for the road. ..justifies for higher tax/reg. charges.
    but that's just me.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 17th, 2016 at 11:50 AM.

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    Mas mura pa renewal ko for ASX 2.0. Paid P2600+. Net wt. 1350 kg. Gross wt. 2700 kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    Mas mura pa renewal ko for ASX 2.0. Paid P2600+. Net wt. 1350 kg. Gross wt. 2700 kg.

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    There's a lesson here somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    oo nga. i find that, "funny".
    i would have charged according to weight, 'ala passenger car. after all, whether passenger car or utility vehicle, its heavier weight does translate roughly to road wear and tear. i would not have created a "utility vehicle" category at all, and just used the passenger car category.
    There's a lesson here somewhere that we can all use in our next vehicle purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    There's a lesson here somewhere...

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    There's a lesson here somewhere that we can all use in our next vehicle purchase.
    errr...buy alto, celerio, getz, mirage, picanto, wigo..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    errr...buy alto, celerio, getz, mirage, picanto, wigo..?
    hehe.

    Parang income tax return lang yan.

    Minsan mas malaki pa ang binabayarang income tax ng pobreng empleyado kaysa sa bilyonaryong taipan.

    Bakit? Kasi si billionaire taipan alam niya exploit yung loopholes sa batas without really breaking the law.

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    That's quite shocking. Are you sure a fully laden Elantra is that heavy? My '15 Nissan Sentra (Sylphy) 1.8V is just 1260kg (just checked the CR, shipping weight is just 630kg). Since AT tranny is heavy, I suppose the Manual is way lighter. This also a compact.

    You should check your car's specs and dispute if ever. Sayang din pera if it's unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    That's quite shocking. Are you sure a fully laden Elantra is that heavy? My '15 Nissan Sentra (Sylphy) 1.8V is just 1260kg (just checked the CR, shipping weight is just 630kg). Since AT tranny is heavy, I suppose the Manual is way lighter. This also a compact.

    You should check your car's specs and dispute if ever. Sayang din pera if it's unnecessary.
    a nissan sylphy with a shipping weight of 630 kg! that's obvously a mistake.
    even my old 1990's sentra had a shipping weight of 1000 kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    a nissan sylphy with a shipping weight of 630 kg! that's obvously a mistake.
    even my old 1990's sentra had a shipping weight of 1000 kg.
    1993 Toyota Corolla 1600cc :
    Shipt Wt: 945 kgs.

    2004 Vios 1500cc:
    Ship Wt: 750 kgs.
    GVW: 1,500 kgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    That's quite shocking. Are you sure a fully laden Elantra is that heavy? My '15 Nissan Sentra (Sylphy) 1.8V is just 1260kg (just checked the CR, shipping weight is just 630kg). Since AT tranny is heavy, I suppose the Manual is way lighter. This also a compact.

    You should check your car's specs and dispute if ever. Sayang din pera if it's unnecessary.
    1260 kg is curb weight. I'm sure the Elantra weighs about the same as well. But LTO looks at GVW.

    And besides, it's not like anyone can do anything about it. When HARI brought in the Elantra and declared it to have a GVW of over 1600 kg, that was the end of it. The LTO will classify all Elantras as medium.

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    Dispute? With the LTO? Can't even dispute the sticker overcharge and undelivered plate numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Dispute? With the LTO? Can't even dispute the sticker overcharge and undelivered plate numbers.
    Pwede "dispute". Pero under the table. Kadalasan mga truck. Para bumaba yung registration fees and minsan pa nga para ma-exempt sa truck ban. You get my drift... And yes, it still happens despite 6 years of daang matuwid.

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    Let me answer for you *Walter.

    Yung sticker charge, they are constrained to charge that because it's in the law. They've already expressed intent that they want to charge lower kaso di pa na-amend yung law. I forget the details but that's basically it, a legal issue.

    yung plates, alam naman na natin lahat COA disallowed the payment to the supplier. So siempre, kung ikaw supplier, ayaw mo rin siempre mg-deliver kung walang bayad.

    You'd be surprised how easy it is to talk to these people (even the head). Just approach in a calm formal manner, madali sila kausap.

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    Kala yata ng TS he was buying a compact car, kasi nga naman when we talk about the Elantra, it's always classifed as a compact car. Gulat niya LTO classifies it as Medium sized based on GVW.

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    interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact
    but the LTO doesn't use "compact" nor "midsize" classifications. it uses small, medium, and large (heavy, heh heh), with each having a weight range and corresponding fee.
    so how much did you have to pay, sir?
    Last edited by dr. d; March 17th, 2016 at 07:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    but the LTO doesn't use "compact" nor "midsize" classifications. it uses small, medium, and large (heavy, heh heh), with each having a weight range and corresponding fee.
    so how much did you have to pay, sir?
    my bad. it says "light" with a gross weight of 1600.. Paid 2,279 almost same as my 9th gen altis

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact
    Is it the 2.3L "zoom-zoom" model or the earlier 2.0L model? The older generations of the Mazda6 were light and small for midsize cars, much like the 6th gen Accord.

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