Shocked with LTO registration hyudai elantra

[zoomzoom]

Dispute? With the LTO? Can't even dispute the sticker overcharge and undelivered plate numbers.

Pwede "dispute". Pero under the table. Kadalasan mga truck. Para bumaba yung registration fees and minsan pa nga para ma-exempt sa truck ban. You get my drift... And yes, it still happens despite 6 years of daang matuwid.

[rmolivar]

only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

In fairness to LTO, I recall reading in early reviews that elantra is indeed classified as midsize car even in north america. That's why it didn't come as a surprise to me when I saw it as such in the LTO-issued CR.

[dr. d]

That's quite shocking. Are you sure a fully laden Elantra is that heavy? My '15 Nissan Sentra (Sylphy) 1.8V is just 1260kg (just checked the CR, shipping weight is just 630kg). Since AT tranny is heavy, I suppose the Manual is way lighter. This also a compact.

You should check your car's specs and dispute if ever. Sayang din pera if it's unnecessary.

a nissan sylphy with a shipping weight of 630 kg! that's obvously a mistake.
even my old 1990's sentra had a shipping weight of 1000 kg.

[jut703]

That's quite shocking. Are you sure a fully laden Elantra is that heavy? My '15 Nissan Sentra (Sylphy) 1.8V is just 1260kg (just checked the CR, shipping weight is just 630kg). Since AT tranny is heavy, I suppose the Manual is way lighter. This also a compact.

You should check your car's specs and dispute if ever. Sayang din pera if it's unnecessary.

1260 kg is curb weight. I'm sure the Elantra weighs about the same as well. But LTO looks at GVW.

And besides, it's not like anyone can do anything about it. When HARI brought in the Elantra and declared it to have a GVW of over 1600 kg, that was the end of it. The LTO will classify all Elantras as medium.

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[htc8p]

tumpak!

kaya nga ako nag compact car eh kasi i dont want to pay for any premiums. pero if government is going to charge me the same as premium cars eh lugi naman. they should have made the compact cars and subcompact cars distinct from the full and mid sized cars.

i think this is because government just wants go get more money for stealing purposes....

[zoomzoom]

a nissan sylphy with a shipping weight of 630 kg! that's obvously a mistake.
even my old 1990's sentra had a shipping weight of 1000 kg.

1993 Toyota Corolla 1600cc :
Shipt Wt: 945 kgs.

2004 Vios 1500cc:
Ship Wt: 750 kgs.
GVW: 1,500 kgs.

[Egan101]

Well, if you feel like the LTO MVUC cost is a burden, you can sell the car and get a lighter one that fits the small/light classification of LTO, like a Vios or City or Fiesta or Mazda2.

If you do like the car, you can always live with the small annual burden of its registration. It is a small cost compared to maintenance, fuel, and toll costs of the car within a year.

If you think it is better to get a midsize car for the sake of the similar LTO MVUC cost, then go get a midsize car. They offer a much better ride, better interior space, and more powerful engines. Just don't go out complaining that they are not fuel efficient and maintenance is more expensive.

[zoomzoom]

Kala yata ng TS he was buying a compact car, kasi nga naman when we talk about the Elantra, it's always classifed as a compact car. Gulat niya LTO classifies it as Medium sized based on GVW.

[xninjax]

interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact

[jut703]

tumpak!

kaya nga ako nag compact car eh kasi i dont want to pay for any premiums. pero if government is going to charge me the same as premium cars eh lugi naman. they should have made the compact cars and subcompact cars distinct from the full and mid sized cars.

i think this is because government just wants go get more money for stealing purposes....

I don't know if you even read the links posted in this thread of yours. There are 3 passenger car classifications - Light, Medium, Heavy.

Ther are segregated by gross vehicle weight:

Light: 0 to 1600 kg GVW
Medium: 1600 to 2300 kg GVW
Heavy: 2300 kg GVW and above

Back in the day, compacts fit the Light category. But because compacts today are bigger and heavier than midsize sedans 15 years ago (RA 8794 was made in 2000), they have moved to the Medium category. Both compacts and midsizers share the Medium category. If the next generation of Camrys and Accords become even heavier, they might move to the Heavy category, but until that happens, they'll both be Medium and there's nothing wrong with that.

You complaining that your MVUC is the same as a Camry is as pointless as someone complaining why his Wigo is chaged the same MVUC as a Vios even if the former is lighter.

At the end of the day, you're whining over something so trivial, but Egan's post pretty much sums up your only options:

Well, if you feel like the LTO MVUC cost is a burden, you can sell the car and get a lighter one that fits the small/light classification of LTO, like a Vios or City or Fiesta or Mazda2.

If you do like the car, you can always live with the small annual burden of its registration. It is a small cost compared to maintenance, fuel, and toll costs of the car within a year.

If you think it is better to get a midsize car for the sake of the similar LTO MVUC cost, then go get a midsize car. They offer a much better ride, better interior space, and more powerful engines. Just don't go out complaining that they are not fuel efficient and maintenance is more expensive.

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[dr. d]

interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact

but the LTO doesn't use "compact" nor "midsize" classifications. it uses small, medium, and large (heavy, heh heh), with each having a weight range and corresponding fee.
so how much did you have to pay, sir?

[xninjax]

but the LTO doesn't use "compact" nor "midsize" classifications. it uses small, medium, and large (heavy, heh heh), with each having a weight range and corresponding fee.
so how much did you have to pay, sir?

my bad. it says "light" with a gross weight of 1600.. Paid 2,279 almost same as my 9th gen altis

[Egan101]

interesting... when i registered my gen1 mazda6 which is typically a midsize sedan. it was classified as compact

Is it the 2.3L "zoom-zoom" model or the earlier 2.0L model? The older generations of the Mazda6 were light and small for midsize cars, much like the 6th gen Accord.

[Horsepower]

*JUT, it seems you are right. I just checked the specs of Sentra USDM and yep. LOL.

*Dr.D: I was also a bit surprised at the figures.

[xninjax]

Is it the 2.3L "zoom-zoom" model or the earlier 2.0L model? The older generations of the Mazda6 were light and small for midsize cars, much like the 6th gen Accord.

2.3L

-too short

[yebo]

Napaka laki naman ng problema dito. Gusto magkaron ng kotse pero ayaw magbayad ng registration. Benta nyo na lang kotse nyo at sumakay na lang kayo ng uber.

[CVT]

so lower segment cars pay same level as accord and camry and sonata cars na.

in effect tinaasan nila. kalokohan na to. eh di i would rather get a higher end car and pay the lto registration than get the low end car and still pay high end registration.

this is bs

I can buy that argument bro.

If and only if the budget permits...





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[Egan101]

If budget permits, I would get a midsize also. An Accord is much better than a Civic, same thing with a Camry to the Altis or the Mazda6 to the Mazda3. Now, if you can't live with the fuel consumption and extra maintenance cost of an Accord or Camry, you may have to live with a Civic or Altis even if they would require the same registration cost.

[3GEMS]

Napaka laki naman ng problema dito. Gusto magkaron ng kotse pero ayaw magbayad ng registration. Benta nyo na lang kotse nyo at sumakay na lang kayo ng uber.

Agree.
magkano po ba minahal? 1k? Dagdag 1k every year of registration, wala pa isang full tank. IMHO. Not worth the stress. Hehehe.

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[niky]

It's really amazing how much bigger cars are, nowadays. You only have to look so far as the Mitsubishi Mirage to see this... it has the same passenger volume as a mid-90's Civic.

The Nissan Almera and Honda Jazz have more passenger space than a mid-00's Civic.

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We have to stop thinking of sub-compact, compact and midsize as being attached to the nameplates. The cars badged with yesterday's compact nameplates have grown. That's why there are new compacts below them. And those compacts have grown, which is why you have new subcompacts below them... and etcetera... etcetera... etcetera.

Who wants to bet that in a decade, the Brio will be as big as the very first Jazz?