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    #1
    Hi all,

    i just had my hyundai elantra registered for the first time since the 3 year inclusive LTO registration. now i am shocked that my lto registration amounted to P4,129.00

    but out of the cars i have owned, civic, altis. i have never paid more than P3,000.00

    sabi ng LTO kasi CAR MEDIUM and category. eh ang point ko eh 1.6 lang yan kalevel ng civic at corolla altis. bakit charge mo ako ng level ng accord at camry.

    anong klaseng kabalastugan to?!?!?!?!?!?

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    As per some information shared here in Tsikot, the 10th gen Altis from 2011 onwards are already classified under medium. Check the Altis thread for more details.

    I think most TOTL compact models are also classified as medium by LTO. Some of the newer compacts with 1.6L engines are also classified as medium. It has to do with the weight of the car. Older midsize cars (2002 and older) were only around 1300 kg which is about the same as newer compacts.
    Last edited by Egan101; March 16th, 2016 at 06:26 PM.

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    #3
    Gross vehicle weight ata ang basis for computation...

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    Still a shock for most people who are used to the low LTO MVUC rates of compact cars. It pays to ask car dealers about such costs but we can admit we are not inquisitive about it as most cars nowadays are being offered free LTO registration for the 1st 3 years.

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    so lower segment cars pay same level as accord and camry and sonata cars na.

    in effect tinaasan nila. kalokohan na to. eh di i would rather get a higher end car and pay the lto registration than get the low end car and still pay high end registration.

    this is bs

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    eh parang no choice na lumalabas if they want to charge 1M for MVUC para sa kalesa they will just do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by htc8p View Post
    so lower segment cars pay same level as accord and camry and sonata cars na.

    in effect tinaasan nila. kalokohan na to. eh di i would rather get a higher end car and pay the lto registration than get the low end car and still pay high end registration.

    this is bs
    That's the sad truth, bro. 10th gen Altis owners were shocked to find the same thing a few years ago. The Lancer EX 2.0L models (GLS, MX, GT, GT-A) are also classified as medium when it came out in 2008 as dealer flyers show its LTO registration as around 13k for 3 years but comes free when you purchase the car.

    I think Honda was still able to market its Civic FD and FB 1.8L models as light 4-door, except the 2.0L models.

    It is true that compact cars have grown heavier. The subcompacts have now taken the place of cars which are around 1000kg to 1100kg in weight. My Fiesta is listed as 1100kg. Our old City 2009 was listed around the same weight also. Their LTO MVUC is the same as older compacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htc8p View Post
    so lower segment cars pay same level as accord and camry and sonata cars na.

    in effect tinaasan nila. kalokohan na to. eh di i would rather get a higher end car and pay the lto registration than get the low end car and still pay high end registration.

    this is bs
    But a "high-end" midsize sedan costs almost twice as much as a "low-end" compact. If the several hundred thousand pesos between the two cars doesn't matter to you, I don't see why you're so caught up with the few thousand for LTO.

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    With the current crop of compacts, I think only the Mazda 3 is still considered small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    But a "high-end" midsize sedan costs almost twice as much as a "low-end" compact. If the several hundred thousand pesos between the two cars doesn't matter to you, I don't see why you're so caught up with the few thousand for LTO.

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    +1000. nanghihimutok sa 1 tawsan pero sa price difference ng elantra at accord ok lang? does not compute e.

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    It's indicated in the CR that elantra is classified as mid-sized car so this should not be a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post

    I think Honda was still able to market its Civic FD and FB 1.8L models as light 4-door, except the 2.0L models
    hmmm....i only paid 2.6k for the reg of our 2.0 civic fd and i checked the o.r. and it says the gross weight of the car is just under 1600 kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    As per some information shared here in Tsikot, the 10th gen Altis from 2011 onwards are already classified under medium. Check the Altis thread for more details.

    I think most TOTL compact models are also classified as medium by LTO. Some of the newer compacts with 1.6L engines are also classified as medium. It has to do with the weight of the car. Older midsize cars (2002 and older) were only around 1300 kg which is about the same as newer compacts.
    I'm one of them. I was surprised with the difference in cost of registration between the Altis and Vios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm one of them. I was surprised with the difference in cost of registration between the Altis and Vios.

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    the current altis' net weight is 1245 - 1300 kg. the 2001 altis, 1060-1130 kg.
    the first vios weighed 960 kg. the new vios, 1090 kg.
    for gross vehicle weight, we add the passengers, 5 of them yata, and baggage... for the altis, the gvw is 1640 - 1670 kg... over by 40 - 70 kg from the 1600 kg upper limit for smaller cars. we're now in medium car category.
    (my gvw source is indian. and it's 1.8 engine.. can't find the 1.6.)
    Last edited by dr. d; March 16th, 2016 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;2706182
    It's indicated in the CR that elantra is classified as mid-sized car so this should not be a surprise.

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    i think the CR indicates only the engine displacement and the vehicle weights. as to what vehicle category (small, medium, large), we have to consult the LTO tabulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i think the CR indicates only the engine displacement and the vehicle weights. as to what vehicle category (small, medium, large), we have to consult the LTO tabulations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    With the current crop of compacts, I think only the Mazda 3 is still considered small.
    Yep! Gulat nga ako pareho sila ng classification ng Gen 2.5 Vios ko.
    Last edited by JohnM; March 17th, 2016 at 07:09 AM.

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    only 2 reasons. either the LTO/DOTC is clueless what's the difference between a sub-compact, compact, mid size etc..of car denomination or they're aware pero ginawawang lang tayong milking cow. another highway robbery to all motorist by LTO

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    Quote Originally Posted by htc8p View Post
    Hi all,

    i just had my hyundai elantra registered for the first time since the 3 year inclusive LTO registration. now i am shocked that my lto registration amounted to P4,129.00

    but out of the cars i have owned, civic, altis. i have never paid more than P3,000.00

    sabi ng LTO kasi CAR MEDIUM and category. eh ang point ko eh 1.6 lang yan kalevel ng civic at corolla altis. bakit charge mo ako ng level ng accord at camry.

    anong klaseng kabalastugan to?!?!?!?!?!?
    Yung Sonata YF ko na 2.4 sir ganyan rehistro.

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    I found a schedule of fees from the LTO. Any vehicle above 1600kgs is considered medium.

    SCHEDULE OF MOTOR VEHICLE USER’S CHARGE PURSUANT TO R.A. 8794 AND OTHER FEES AND CHARGES

    Same case applies with my accent crdi - it weighs 1605kgs - classified as medium.

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