Issues sa Tucson 2010

[sachiel]

I tried pulling the headrest pero bumabalik sa same position. Forward lang pwede gumalaw, pero backward sagad na. Medyo sobrang forward kasi yun current position ng headrest. Hirap matulog habang nag drdrive.

[wahzai_swy]

Just want to know if anyone have happen to encounter or heard of someone who have this problem:

My cousin Tucson 2010 Crdi GL odo at 38T km, have strange sound from engine as engine is running, CASA initial suggest alternator bearing may be the source of the sound, bring it to Goodgear pasay for second opinion, they remove the belt and some pulley didn't find anything wrong, and suggest observe more time. One week after, as normal daily drive, as he start the car, engine is running but he can not turn the wheels. Upon checking the engine, the belt is off and also one of the pulley drive. The red encircle in the picture is the one that fell out.

[weisshorn]

Just want to know if anyone have happen to encounter or heard of someone who have this problem:

My cousin Tucson 2010 Crdi GL odo at 38T km, have strange sound from engine as engine is running, CASA initial suggest alternator bearing may be the source of the sound, bring it to Goodgear pasay for second opinion, they remove the belt and some pulley didn't find anything wrong, and suggest observe more time. One week after, as normal daily drive, as he start the car, engine is running but he can not turn the wheels. Upon checking the engine, the belt is off and also one of the pulley drive. The red encircle in the picture is the one that fell out.

Whaat??? natanggal ang crankshaft pulley!!!. Hindi ito nakita during Goodgear check up? My opinion is that this is the source of the strange sound. Baka inikot ang makina using wrench on the the center bolt ng pulley sa derection na paluwag and then hindi na rechecked ang tightness ng bolt after check up ng drive belt, ayon tuluyan natanggal after a while of engine running .. very sad, kaya ako I do mechanical checked up myself, mas may tiwala ako sa trabaho ko at least alam ko kung alin bolt/s ang hindi nahigpitan ng husto.

[mda]

To begin with, ba't dinala sa goodgear?

Under warranty pa naman yung kotse e. Yan dapat yung use ng 5 year warranty.

Now that nasira ng goodgear, your cousin might have to shoulder the repair cost. Hope that the CASA will actually cover the repair since may prior finding na.

[weisshorn]

Ipasok na lang sa casa. Wag ipaalam na ginalaw sa Goodgear. Sabihin na lang na kaya di naibalik agad sa casa after their initial diagnosis kasi waiting for fund pa. Mas ok siguro kung itawag sa casa para puntahan at makita nila na tanggal ang pulley. Maybe they will fix it right on site or itow papunta sa casa.

[mda]

Waiting for fund?

Free dapat yan!

[NighthawkGT]

damn.. no power to the wheels talaga yan. hirap din ipagalaw sa iba.. lalo na pag engine problems na.

[wahzai_swy]

Thanks sa mga advise bro, they have bad experience with these so call 5 year warranty, their Grand Strarex power steering box/pump? was damage at the third year, warranty denied because of not following one or two PMS schedule.... CASA offer parts twice or more the price of Goodgear. At 18T KM their tucson front rotor also replaced at CASA but no warranty! Reason di daw napalitan agad ang breakpad as recommended, but upon visual inspection, di pa man ubos as in metal na, may mga 1/4 pa daw. Thats all according to my cousin, i've not yet saw it personally.

Sir weisshorn, tama sabi mo, crankshaft pulley a ang nagtangal... kinain daw yon para plastic spacer niya daw don sa sinasaksak/kinakabitan ng pulley.... Sabi ng goodgear, masyado loaded yan single belt design ng engine, dami daw dinadrive niya pulley, tensioner kaya loaded??? yan kaya talaga ang cause? mas believe ako don sa sabi mo na baka hindi nag hipit ang pakakabit.

[NighthawkGT]

who dismantled the belts ba bro? goodgear or the casa?

[mda]

Hmm. Maybe already slightly off topic but

In all due honesty, I think they brought their "bad experience" onto themselves:

Thanks sa mga advise bro, they have bad experience with these so call 5 year warranty, their Grand Strarex power steering box/pump? was damage at the third year, warranty denied because of not following one or two PMS schedule....

Their fault. Missing 2 PMS? They do more than change the oil sa mga PMS. They also check for loose/punctured tubing, hoses etc.

At 18T KM their tucson front rotor also replaced at CASA but no warranty! Reason di daw napalitan agad ang breakpad as recommended

Kung makapal pa nga talaga yung brake pad, hindi masisira yung rotor. Kung naniniwala sila na hindi sira yung rotor, then they shouldn't have consented to have the rotors changed as recommended (katulad ng brake pads). Again, their fault IMO.

[wahzai_swy]

Hmm. Maybe already slightly off topic but

In all due honesty, I think they brought their "bad experience" onto themselves:



Their fault. Missing 2 PMS? They do more than change the oil sa mga PMS. They also check for loose/punctured tubing, hoses etc.



Kung makapal pa nga talaga yung brake pad, hindi masisira yung rotor. Kung naniniwala sila na hindi sira yung rotor, then they shouldn't have consented to have the rotors changed as recommended (katulad ng brake pads). Again, their fault IMO.

Not missing i remember, may be late like 30T km, become 32T km something like that....

*NighthawkGT, both have their hands on it during their inspection. But the strange sound it around already before they inspect it.

[weisshorn]

Thanks sa mga advise bro, they have bad experience with these so call 5 year warranty, their Grand Strarex power steering box/pump? was damage at the third year, warranty denied because of not following one or two PMS schedule.... CASA offer parts twice or more the price of Goodgear. At 18T KM their tucson front rotor also replaced at CASA but no warranty! Reason di daw napalitan agad ang breakpad as recommended, but upon visual inspection, di pa man ubos as in metal na, may mga 1/4 pa daw. Thats all according to my cousin, i've not yet saw it personally.

Sir weisshorn, tama sabi mo, crankshaft pulley a ang nagtangal... kinain daw yon para plastic spacer niya daw don sa sinasaksak/kinakabitan ng pulley.... Sabi ng goodgear, masyado loaded yan single belt design ng engine, dami daw dinadrive niya pulley, tensioner kaya loaded??? yan kaya talaga ang cause? mas believe ako don sa sabi mo na baka hindi nag hipit ang pakakabit.

Missing the PMS sched is usually the alibi of casa to void certain warranty claim. Ako naka claim ng isang rack and pinion assy, aircon drive clutch assy with out any single centavo charge against me. Of course at first casa say this and that trying to avoid my claim but after I explained to them why the claim is valid they finally agreed. Yung rotor dapat valid warranty claim kung within warranty period, bakit hindi nila pinaglaban. Dito makakatulong ang club like THP which is officially recognize by HARI. I know a case of one Getz engine overhauled under warranty after THP admin sent letter to HARI. Take note that initially the claim was denied by the dealership casa.

I don't believe that the single drive belt design ang dahilan ng early failure of the vibration damper. Eh ang 1st Gen Tucson ko ganyan single drive belt din di naman nasira, wala rin akong narinig sa other owner na nagkaproblema. Ang plastic "spacer/bushing" sa crankshaft pulley ay nandyan to absorb vibration dahil yang pulley also serves as front vibration damper. So kung nag fail ang vibration damper which is main part of the engine then that is included in the warranty clause. Nagkulang yata sa pakipaglaban ang pinsan mo para makuha ang claim. Kung THP member siya at humingi ng tulong sa admin maaring ang end of the story is favorable to him, just my insight though.

[NighthawkGT]

yeah i agree, cause its always convenient for the casa to decline your warranty claim. Pero pag nag reklamo ka ng husto, they will have no choice but to honor the warranty.

[weisshorn]

Not missing i remember, may be late like 30T km, become 32T km something like that....

*NighthawkGT, both have their hands on it during their inspection. But the strange sound it around already before they inspect it.

IMHO Late PMS is not a valid excuse if that PMS was carried out by the dealership and at that time of PMS there's no problem with the unit.

The strange sound was there because I believe the vibration damper is already damaged. During casa inspection they should have found this & rectified the problem. Kung ako sa kalagayan ng cousin mo, I will use the non-action of casa to rectify the problem in my favor to push warranty claim against them. I will seek help of THP admin to elevate the case to HARI. For now the case is just in the dealership, still HARI has the final say.

[wahzai_swy]

Vibration damper pala tawag don, thanks a lot really sa mga suggestion... di nila pinalaban talaga, no extra time and energy for them to do so... but i'll try to convince them to go after the dealership for warranty.

Good to hear isolated case lang eto sa pinsan ko, nag worry na pati ako sa Sportage ako coz we have the same type of engine.

[Starex_Gold]

Yung sa Tucson ko rin naman manipis na front brake pads, pero yung front brake rotors laki na rin ng nakain

Pero hindi pa naman siguro to the point na "sira" na. Haha!

[sachiel]

May catch talaga yun 5 yr warranty. They want every 3 months, change oil na even if you haven't reached yun 10k km mileage. Sabi ko I don't believe in the monthly change oil, sa mileage ako naniniwala. But if ever they don't honor any warranty because of PMS, tawag na lng ako kay Mr. Teeten. But hopefully I won't need the warranty kung maingat naman ako mag drive and maintain.

[weisshorn]

May catch talaga yun 5 yr warranty. They want every 3 months, change oil na even if you haven't reached yun 10k km mileage. Sabi ko I don't believe in the monthly change oil, sa mileage ako naniniwala. But if ever they don't honor any warranty because of PMS, tawag na lng ako kay Mr. Teeten. But hopefully I won't need the warranty kung maingat naman ako mag drive and maintain.

Bakit naman ako papayag na every 3 months ang change oil eh kung wala pa 2K KM ang tinakbo ng sasakyan. Ano basis nila na dapat mag change oil eh walang oil analysis to prove na deteriorated na ang engine oil to warrant the change. Pakita nila muna na ang TBN ay bagsak below normal range then payag ako. Another thing is that they want to fill full synthetic oil on the first 1K PMS, hindi ako pumapayag dyan, ang piston rings ng new hyundai engines are hardened coated, matagal yan bago mag wear-in sa cylinder liner so hindi dapat na full synthetic oil for the first 1K KM PMS. I also follow odometer reading.

[sachiel]

I notice many casas pinipilit na yun 3months pms interval. Baka siguro kulang na profits nila. Yun Ford every 3 months tumatawag rin pero as long as hindi pa ako umabot sa mileage, I don't do change oil.

[spencer101173]

meron ba sa inyo naka encounter pag turn off yun aircon niyo meron weird sounds sa blower parang meron laman sa loob nang blower.