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    Hi,

    When the car was just started, the engine is responsive (accelerating is faster) but when after long drive with mix highway and congested traffic city driving, I noticed a lack of power not like when engine was fresh from start up. I just bought my Getz last month. I also feel the noticeable hardened of the clutch and gas pedals after some 40mins. to an hour of driving especially on heavy traffic + air-conditioning on.

    Last Wednesday (23 March) I brought my Getz to the Service Center for its first 1,000 KM preventive maintenance service. I also brought up my concern about the seemingly power loss and the hardened of clutch and gas pedals after some 40mins city driving. They didn't see the symptoms maybe because of just a short test drive, instead, they just adjust the valve clearance. Could it be that the lack of power of the engine is because of the hardened clutch? I experience that when in heavy traffic. Please advice.

    Best Regards,

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    matigas tapakan ang clutch?? How is the hydro-vac fittings, hose and connections ok ba, no leakage? Baka may problema doon sa mga sinabi ko. Anyway press your complaint to the casa where you bought your unit. Better make a detailed documentation of symptoms & problems you've encountered.

    PS. sorry hydro-vac.. nasa isip ko preno.. sorry for that.

    Yung upper hydraulic cylinder ng clutch system ang ibig ko sabihin. Subukan mo kaya i-bleed ang hydraulic.
    Last edited by weisshorn; March 25th, 2011 at 09:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    matigas tapakan ang clutch?? How is the hydro-vac fittings, hose and connections ok ba, no leakage? Baka may problema doon sa mga sinabi ko. Anyway press your complaint to the casa where you bought your unit. Better make a detailed documentation of symptoms & problems you've encountered.
    Sir weisshorn, pag bagong andar pa lang yung car malambot pa yung clutch ganon din yung gas pedal, pero pag nasa heavy traffic dela rosa street na ko after that noticeable na yung pag tigas ng clutch at gas pedals slightly. Basta ibang iba nung bagong andar pa lang yung car to the point na kailangan ko diinan pa yung apak sa gas para humatak ng husto unlike pag bagong andar pa lang very smooth ang acceleration at malambot ang clutch.

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    Ni-raise ko lang din po yung issue baka kasi normal na medyo tumitigas ang clutch pag mainit na or heavy traffic pero kasi parang hindi ganon ang nangyayari sa old model car ng brother ko.

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    Seems to be a hydrovac problem. Have it checked and replaced if necessary.

    Take the SA on a long road test. Does it also happen if you pump the clutch repeatedly

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    Kung tumitigas ang clutch pag tumagal na ang driving for sure hindi ito normal except kung perception mo lang dahil pagod na ang mga paa mo.

    Better discuss your problem with other getz owners. Register to be a member of teamhyundaiphils here http://teamhyundaiphils.proboards.com/. Admin/members can help you with your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    Kung tumitigas ang clutch pag tumagal na ang driving for sure hindi ito normal except kung perception mo lang dahil pagod na ang mga paa mo.

    Better discuss your problem with other getz owners. Register to be a member of teamhyundaiphils here http://teamhyundaiphils.proboards.com/. Admin/members can help you with your problem.
    Iniisip ko nga rin po yon kung pakiramdam ko lang na tumitigas ung clutch pero inoobserbahan ko talaga, minsan pag nakahinto sa traffic, tinitest ko yung clutch may difference talaga compared sa bagong andar pa lang, this time maganit na sya.

    Btw, member po ako sa teamhyundaiphils kaso wala akong makitang forum nila for discussing this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeboy25 View Post
    Iniisip ko nga rin po yon kung pakiramdam ko lang na tumitigas ung clutch pero inoobserbahan ko talaga, minsan pag nakahinto sa traffic, tinitest ko yung clutch may difference talaga compared sa bagong andar pa lang, this time maganit na sya.

    Btw, member po ako sa teamhyundaiphils kaso wala akong makitang forum nila for discussing this matter.
    Did you read the rules and agreed? Kailangan kasi ito para maka-post ka.
    Create ka na lang ng new thread sa getz sub-forum.
    Attend ka ng EB para mag compare notes sa ibang members.
    Last edited by weisshorn; March 25th, 2011 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    Did you read the rules and agreed? Kailangan kasi ito para maka-post ka.
    Create ka na lang ng new thread sa getz sub-forum.
    Attend ka ng EB para mag compare notes sa ibang members.
    Ah oo nga hehe sorry my bad. Member din po kayo don? Kailan ang EB?

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    Mga Sir, gaano po kalambot ang clutch nyo since nung kinuha nyo sa dealer ang Getz nyo? Yung iba sabi parang halos wala silang clutch. Kakadala ko lang sa service center yung Getz ko at sabi nila normal naman daw sabi ko malayo yan compared nung kinuha ko yung Getz ko sa inyo. At kahit yung friend kong mechanic ang sabi matigas daw talaga yung clutch ko comparing with 1 year old vios. Sabi ng service center baka raw kasi sa pressure plate, sabi ko nacheck nyo na ba? hindi raw kasi ibaba daw buong transmission non, malaking trabaho daw. Hindi ba covered ng warranty yon? E factory fault yon in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeboy25 View Post
    Mga Sir, gaano po kalambot ang clutch nyo since nung kinuha nyo sa dealer ang Getz nyo? Yung iba sabi parang halos wala silang clutch. Kakadala ko lang sa service center yung Getz ko at sabi nila normal naman daw sabi ko malayo yan compared nung kinuha ko yung Getz ko sa inyo. At kahit yung friend kong mechanic ang sabi matigas daw talaga yung clutch ko comparing with 1 year old vios. Sabi ng service center baka raw kasi sa pressure plate, sabi ko nacheck nyo na ba? hindi raw kasi ibaba daw buong transmission non, malaking trabaho daw. Hindi ba covered ng warranty yon? E factory fault yon in the first place.
    sir kapag sa clutch assembly problema ang alam ko wala syang warranty, pero kapag transmission yata under warranty pa sya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene_tagle View Post
    sir kapag sa clutch assembly problema ang alam ko wala syang warranty, pero kapag transmission yata under warranty pa sya.
    ganon po ba yon? kasi pwedeng factory defect yon kung sakali man, kakukuha ko lang last February e

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    Baka adjustment lang ng clutch, pa check mo ang free play ng pedal kung tama. free play pag newly started engine =?, free play pag matagal na ang andar at mainit na ang clutch hydraulic oil =?. Pwede rin na may problema ang master cylinder ( sira ang rubber cup). Kung may sira sa master cylinder dapat cover ng warranty yan (ipilit mo sa dealership ang coverage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene_tagle View Post
    sir kapag sa clutch assembly problema ang alam ko wala syang warranty, pero kapag transmission yata under warranty pa sya.
    kung last feb mo lang nakuha unit mo malaki chance na mapasok sa warranty, basta ipagpilitan mo na factory defect sya, alam naman natin mga casa dito sa pinas kapag pwede lumusot e talagang lulusot, ang clutch assembly kasi kasama yan sa normal wear and tear kaya hindi covered ng warranty, masmaganda kung naabisuhan mo ng maaga yung dealer mo para madali na lang sa claim.

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    kung ako sa kalagayan mo ganito ang gagawin ko. Gawin muna ang sinabi ko sa itaas ng "freeplay". After that, kung problematic pa rin then ito ang kasunod:

    Explain ko sa SA na ang problema ay kapag mainit at matagal na ang andar ng makina kaya mahirap i-reproduce sa short test drive nila.

    I strongly suggest na palitan ang master clutch cylinder, adjust the freeplay to maker's standard. Fully bleed the clutch hydraulic system. Dapat palitan derecho para lang ma-establish na wala sa hydraulic side ang problema. Kung ang problema ay dyan pa rin then its time to pull down the transmission and clutch assy to thoroughly inspect. Madali lang gawin yan, napakaliit ng transmission/clutch assy ng getz.

    Kung ayaw gawin ng casa, report your complaint to HARI. THP admin can help/support you endorse this to HARI because the club is SEC registered & officially recognized by HARI.

    Could it be that the lack of power of the engine is because of the hardened clutch?
    Yes pwede kung ang tigas ay dahil nakatukod na ang yoke sa pressure plate. Parang naka partial depress ang clutch so hindi 100% kapit ang clutch disc sa flywheel, resulta may partial slippage kaya hindi mag accelerate agad ang gulong pero mataas na ang engine rpm.

    Goodluck. HTH
    Last edited by weisshorn; April 2nd, 2011 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    kung ako sa kalagayan mo ganito ang gagawin ko. Gawin muna ang sinabi ko sa itaas ng "freeplay". After that, kung problematic pa rin then ito ang kasunod:

    Explain ko sa SA na ang problema ay kapag mainit at matagal na ang andar ng makina kaya mahirap i-reproduce sa short test drive nila.

    I strongly suggest na palitan ang master clutch cylinder, adjust the freeplay to maker's standard. Fully bleed the clutch hydraulic system. Dapat palitan derecho para lang ma-establish na wala sa hydraulic side ang problema. Kung ang problema ay dyan pa rin then its time to pull down the transmission and clutch assy to thoroughly inspect. Madali lang gawin yan, napakaliit ng transmission/clutch assy ng getz.

    Kung ayaw gawin ng casa, report your complaint to HARI. THP admin can help/support you endorse this to HARI because the club is SEC registered & officially recognized by HARI.

    Yes pwede kung ang tigas ay dahil nakatukod na ang yoke sa pressure plate. Parang naka partial depress ang clutch so hindi 100% kapit ang clutch disc sa flywheel, resulta may partial slippage kaya hindi mag accelerate agad ang gulong pero mataas na ang engine rpm.

    Goodluck. HTH
    +1

    check muna freeplay, nangyari ito sa starex namin dati... namali ang adjustment ng clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Seems to be a hydrovac problem. Have it checked and replaced if necessary.

    Take the SA on a long road test. Does it also happen if you pump the clutch repeatedly
    Yes sir pag inapakan ko yung clutch repeatedly

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    Baka adjustment lang ng clutch, pa check mo ang free play ng pedal kung tama. free play pag newly started engine =?, free play pag matagal na ang andar at mainit na ang clutch hydraulic oil =?. Pwede rin na may problema ang master cylinder ( sira ang rubber cup). Kung may sira sa master cylinder dapat cover ng warranty yan (ipilit mo sa dealership ang coverage).
    sir, parang wala nga pong free play e, sabi rin ng friend kong mechanic ganon din pro di nya magawa kasi naka warranty

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    kung ako sa kalagayan mo ganito ang gagawin ko. Gawin muna ang sinabi ko sa itaas ng "freeplay". After that, kung problematic pa rin then ito ang kasunod:

    Explain ko sa SA na ang problema ay kapag mainit at matagal na ang andar ng makina kaya mahirap i-reproduce sa short test drive nila.

    I strongly suggest na palitan ang master clutch cylinder, adjust the freeplay to maker's standard. Fully bleed the clutch hydraulic system. Dapat palitan derecho para lang ma-establish na wala sa hydraulic side ang problema. Kung ang problema ay dyan pa rin then its time to pull down the transmission and clutch assy to thoroughly inspect. Madali lang gawin yan, napakaliit ng transmission/clutch assy ng getz.

    Kung ayaw gawin ng casa, report your complaint to HARI. THP admin can help/support you endorse this to HARI because the club is SEC registered & officially recognized by HARI.

    Yes pwede kung ang tigas ay dahil nakatukod na ang yoke sa pressure plate. Parang naka partial depress ang clutch so hindi 100% kapit ang clutch disc sa flywheel, resulta may partial slippage kaya hindi mag accelerate agad ang gulong pero mataas na ang engine rpm.

    Goodluck. HTH
    Maraming salamat sir, yup inexplain ko rin po dati kung paano mai-reproduce yung symptoms sa manila bay, now sa pasig. sana maayos na. Thanks, God bless

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    Nasa Hyundai Pasig na po yung Getz ko at this point in time, pinadala ko lang sa friend ko kasi di ako pedeng mag leave marami kasing work nakausap ko na rin si Mike (SA) last time pero now ibang SA ang humawak pero naexplain ko rin sa kanya pag tawag ko in addition sa detailed complaints and steps to reproduce (symptoms) in writing sana maging ok na. Maraming salamat mga sir, God bless!

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