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    #1161
    Did everyone experiencing the issue also send feedback via the Hyundai website? I recall on the thread that the contents of tsikot were being translated into Korean so they can understand the issue.

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    #1162
    Quote Originally Posted by andretti View Post
    Pero reading the thread mukhang iilan lang din naman kayong may recurring problems with regards to the knocking issue which resulted to the low power. Mukhang ala pa naman complaints yung mga recently bought accent's AFAIK.

    Remembering what meikey posted before mukhang may batch na apektado at merong hindi.
    Yung mga MT's I think for those who had kncocking issues before, wala ng complaints after their updates.

    Am I talking sense here, hehe, correct me guys if I'm wrong...
    akala ko sa mga AT's lang ang knocking issue, pwede rin pala sa MT's pero depende sa batch. yung sa akin kase feb 26 ko nakuha, so far walang problema naman kahit extra unleaded or XCS.

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    #1163
    sakit sa ulo talaga ang lemon car.

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    #1164
    ^^

    Sir andretti, yup tama po. Nasagap ko po yang balita na yan nong pinatrabaho ko yong velocity joint ko. Actually ang pagkakasabi is there are certain units of interestst identified through VIN Nos.

    Yon daw yong priority nilang iupdate.

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    #1165
    Yung sa friend ko sa HARI meron din knocking problem yung Accent 1.4 M/T niya. Siya lang nakakapansin sa family nila.

    "Wala yan ok lang yan" <-- Yan daw sabi ng dad niya

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    #1166
    ^^^

    Hehehehe, eh mismong taga HARI nga tinamaan pa. Hehehehe, ang bagong accent kasi, parang Diesel kung naka idle. Yong 'tik' sound ng rocker arm, masyadong obvious.

    Honda City GM ng wifey ko, hindi naman ganon ka obvious yong "tik" sound ng rocker arm...

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    #1167
    Yang knocking na yan hindi naman lahat nakakapansin. Yung mga medyo oc like me siguradong mapapansin yan. Pag babae driver or matanda most probably hindi napapansin. Kaya siguro marami din hindi nagrereport.

    And by the time mapansin ito malamang malala na. Sabagay 5 years warranty naman and hindi naman aabot ng 5 years bago lumala ang knocking. Kaya malamang pila pila mag ooverhaul ng accent nyan in the near future

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    #1168
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Yang knocking na yan hindi naman lahat nakakapansin. Yung mga medyo oc like me siguradong mapapansin yan. Pag babae driver or matanda most probably hindi napapansin. Kaya siguro marami din hindi nagrereport.

    And by the time mapansin ito malamang malala na. Sabagay 5 years warranty naman and hindi naman aabot ng 5 years bago lumala ang knocking. Kaya malamang pila pila mag ooverhaul ng accent nyan in the near future

    I'm just curious, gaano ba kalakas ang knocking sound? if you turn on the aircon and radio, maririnig mo pa rin ba ito?

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    #1169
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Yang knocking na yan hindi naman lahat nakakapansin. Yung mga medyo oc like me siguradong mapapansin yan. Pag babae driver or matanda most probably hindi napapansin. Kaya siguro marami din hindi nagrereport.
    Next week kakabitan namin ng OEM fogs yung Accent niya. Pakinggan ko yung knocking sound. First car niya kasi yun, OC din talaga.

    Pag naka-idle daw maingay. Di naman daw ganun ang sound nung bago pa. Tapos pag umaandar ng low revs, maingay din.

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    #1170
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Next week kakabitan namin ng OEM fogs yung Accent niya. Pakinggan ko yung knocking sound. First car niya kasi yun, OC din talaga.

    Pag naka-idle daw maingay. Di naman daw ganun ang sound nung bago pa. Tapos pag umaandar ng low revs, maingay din.
    Thats weird, yung unit ko tahimik ang idle. Halos hindi nga malaman kung naka on or off ang engine. And tahimik din when accelerating. Except when knocking of course. Ngayon wala ng knocking sound, sobrang low power ang naging kapalit.

    *retz
    Hindi ganun kalakas ang tunog ng knocking. Pag naka on aircon and radio malamang hindi mo maririnig. Pag malakas na yung knocking sound its too late na. Overhaul time na yan.

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    #1171
    At naalala ko pala bro bratski.

    Inupdate nila Q. Ave yung ECU ng Accent niya nung 1000km PMS.

    Mukhang doon nag umpisa yung knocking

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    #1172
    Mga sir makikisingit lang.

    Does any of your dealer's service center tried opening the valve cover? I'm was thinking that one or two of the rocker arms got dislodge from the its pinned position. Newer engine cars like Toyota VVTi have shim less rocker arms. Ganyan din yung mga nakita kong VVTi na paulit-ulit sa casa na hindi nila maayos dahil puro reset ECU lang ang ginagawa. Same symptom of loss power and knocking. Mga bagong engine ngayon hindi na nakatuhog na parang barbecue ang mga rocker arms, nakaipit na lang sa overhead cam and push rods, kaya there's a possibilty na mawala sa position at mahulog lalo na kung lumuwag yung mga turnilyo ng overhead cam or mahina ang oil pressure for the push rods.

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    #1173
    baka masyado lang kayo na paranoid dyan sa knocking sound...wala ba knock sensor ang engine nyan?? kasi kung meron yung ang magsasabi na may knocking talaga...

    hindi naman masisira ang engine sa knocking eh.. lalo na modern engines na mas matigas ang engine parts..

    yung toyota vios ng kuya ko dati madidinig mo na may takitik din sa makina eh.. hindi naman nasira 120,000kms na natakbo nun 2010 model pa

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    #1174
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    baka masyado lang kayo na paranoid dyan sa knocking sound...wala ba knock sensor ang engine nyan?? kasi kung meron yung ang magsasabi na may knocking talaga...

    hindi naman masisira ang engine sa knocking eh.. lalo na modern engines na mas matigas ang engine parts..

    yung toyota vios ng kuya ko dati madidinig mo na may takitik din sa makina eh.. hindi naman nasira 120,000kms na natakbo nun 2010 model pa

    langhiya, 120,000km na?? mula aparri hangan jolo.

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    #1175
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    baka masyado lang kayo na paranoid dyan sa knocking sound...wala ba knock sensor ang engine nyan?? kasi kung meron yung ang magsasabi na may knocking talaga...

    hindi naman masisira ang engine sa knocking eh.. lalo na modern engines na mas matigas ang engine parts..

    yung toyota vios ng kuya ko dati madidinig mo na may takitik din sa makina eh.. hindi naman nasira 120,000kms na natakbo nun 2010 model pa
    I don't think walang knock sensors yong makina ng sasakyan. Lahat naman siguro na EFI engines meron. The problem is, we were not aware of the data log nong ECM mismo.

    Since inaddress ito ni HARI, I assume that the datalog had confirmed it na nagknocknock nga ang engine.

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    #1176
    as of this stage, i dont think ECM replacement will solve the problem. nag ta trial and error pa din ang HARI in resolving this problem, hindi pa nila talaga alam ang long-term solution, IMHO. like i said, i got M/T, and my dealer already replaced my ECM but still experiencing low powered during 1st and 2nd gears. not bad comparing low power prior to the replacement (ECU upgrade) but you can still be destructed and affected especially in heavy traffic driving. kaya tinawagan ko dealer ko and told them this, "HINDI KO HAHAYAAN ULI MAGING GUINEA PIG ANG KOTSE KO, TAWAGAN NYO AKO KAPAG MAY SOLUSYON NA KAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by meikey View Post
    ^

    *sir bratski, you request na for ECM Replacement... Suma total, malaki ng perwesyo idinulot niyan sa 'yo. Bakit kaya di maipasa yang "Lemon Law" na yan. Kung tutuusin, lemon car na yan...

    On my side, I wouldn't force na the issue, i've said it before, "Trial & Error" na ang ginagawa nila. They don't have definite fix and solution to the issue.

    Dapat niyan complete ECM replacement na...

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    #1177
    Just wondering how can a big international company unable to solve such issues? Kung simpleng ECU update lang yan, which they are doing AFAIK, palagay ko naman sa tagal na ng issue na to (kahit na pa trial and error pa ang trabaho nila e) dapat man lang na ayos na to.

    I think its more than just an ECU update... a month of testing is more than enough to do such test IMO. or ginawa nalang talaga nilang testing units ang mga tsikot natin sa Pinas...

    Buti nalang yung unit ko (MT) ala pa din knocking as confirmed by my in-laws, but will do tests again next week pag nasa pinas nako...

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    #1178
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    At naalala ko pala bro bratski.

    Inupdate nila Q. Ave yung ECU ng Accent niya nung 1000km PMS.

    Mukhang doon nag umpisa yung knocking
    Bro SG, ang pagkakaalam ko pag inupdate mag lolowpower. Yung akin mula ng first update up to now wala ng knock, sobrang low power nga lang naging kapalit. More evident ang low power pag nattraffic. Ang hirap talaga paandarin.

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    #1179
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    baka masyado lang kayo na paranoid dyan sa knocking sound...wala ba knock sensor ang engine nyan?? kasi kung meron yung ang magsasabi na may knocking talaga...

    hindi naman masisira ang engine sa knocking eh.. lalo na modern engines na mas matigas ang engine parts..

    yung toyota vios ng kuya ko dati madidinig mo na may takitik din sa makina eh.. hindi naman nasira 120,000kms na natakbo nun 2010 model pa
    Iba naman yata yung takitik sa engine knock, yung takitik tunog ng mga valves yun and its normal. Afaik kung hindi nakakasira ang engine knock walang magrereklamo. Ive read it numerous times before naakakasira ang knocking sa engine if left uncorrected. Kung ok lang talaga ito yung mga high performance cars pwede ng maglagay ng low octane gas and not worry about the long term damage.

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    #1180
    The Causes of Internal Engine Knock, and How to Eliminate it. By Ray T. Bohacz

    O ayan, cause and effect ng knocking

    To quote a phrase "other than running your engine without oil, there is nothing you can do that is probably more detrimental than detonating it ". Kaya yung may mga knocking issues pa i suggest wait it out or go ahead and update at the expense of low power. Dahil masisira talaga engine ninyo

2011 Accent AT - Engine Knock!