Brake Master leak

[k_leos]

Sino naka experienced na ng brake master leak dito sa Honda cars?

meron ako Honda CRV 2004. Meron leak in between brake master and brake booster. Sabi ng casa.. wala stock ganyan sa warehouse ng Honda sa pinas kasi rare lang daw mag leak ang brake master? totoo ba ito? 14 yrs na car ko running at 82km na. Ilan years na Honda cars mo and na leaked na ba brake master nyo?

Kunti experienced mga Honda casa sa brake master leak.. since my leak is between brake master and brake booster.. possible galing ito sa brake booster? hindi alam ng Honda...

[yapoy86]

Sino naka experienced na ng brake master leak dito sa Honda cars?

meron ako Honda CRV 2004. Meron leak in between brake master and brake booster. Sabi ng casa.. wala stock ganyan sa warehouse ng Honda sa pinas kasi rare lang daw mag leak ang brake master? totoo ba ito? 14 yrs na car ko running at 82km na. Ilan years na Honda cars mo and na leaked na ba brake master nyo?

Kunti experienced mga Honda casa sa brake master leak.. since my leak is between brake master and brake booster.. possible galing ito sa brake booster? hindi alam ng Honda...

nandun lang leak nyan sa brake master.. pwede yan paghiwalayin tapos palitan yung rubber seals. may size na din nakatatak sa side ng brake master. can be repaired in less than an hour

[k_leos]

nandun lang leak nyan sa brake master.. pwede yan paghiwalayin tapos palitan yung rubber seals. may size na din nakatatak sa side ng brake master. can be repaired in less than an hour

sabi ng mga Honda casa.. wala sila rubber seals.. basta palit daw buong brake master for 12,000 pesos.. pero wala naman stock as warehouse nila yun brake master for CRV 2004 2nd gen and two months daw hintay if mag order abroad.

Gusto ko malaman how good ba ang mga replacement na brake master? Delikado pag brakes usapan so I'm thinking whether to get original Honda brake master or replacement.. well?

[SilverHorizon]

Sir, bat di mo itry patignan sa labas ng casa...
usually kasi yun ganyan issue palit goma lang at nasa 500-800 range lang na repair.

[dr. d]

Sino naka experienced na ng brake master leak dito sa Honda cars?

meron ako Honda CRV 2004. Meron leak in between brake master and brake booster. Sabi ng casa.. wala stock ganyan sa warehouse ng Honda sa pinas kasi rare lang daw mag leak ang brake master? totoo ba ito? 14 yrs na car ko running at 82km na. Ilan years na Honda cars mo and na leaked na ba brake master nyo?

Kunti experienced mga Honda casa sa brake master leak.. since my leak is between brake master and brake booster.. possible galing ito sa brake booster? hindi alam ng Honda...

i don't honda, but,
my casa is also like yours. they don't repair. they replace.
the brake master is a wear-and-tear item, po, just like brake slaves.
visit the stores in banawe or pasay rotonda. feel ko ay meron silang replacement brake master cylinder and/or overhaul kit, na mas mura kaysa casa. have the mechanics there do the muscle work of replacing or repairing yours, if you do not feel up to it.
btw, sometimes the damage is too far gone, repair is not an option. replacement lang.

and from what i understand, there's no liquid in the brake booster to leak. whatever leak that apparently comes from it, is probably from a leak in the brake master.

good luck, po.

[k_leos]

Car Zone at banawe quoted me 6500 pesos for the Seiken Brake Master. Pero ask ko important.. if the original Honda brake master can last 80,000 kilometers, how long usually mag last ang Seiken Brake Master? 10,000 kilometers lang? Ayaw ko look at the brake master every 2 days and fearing there is leak.. so if I get the original Honda.. hindi ko na look palagi and be nervous.. hindi biro ang brakes... imagine you are moving at 100 k/h sa skyway and wala brakes.

I'd like to ask about bleeding or removing air from the newly installed braking system. Sa mga talier wala naman sila machine to bleed.. hindi ba magka problem ito.. like maging sponge like yun pedal??

[dr. d]

Car Zone at banawe quoted me 6500 pesos for the Seiken Brake Master. Pero ask ko important.. if the original Honda brake master can last 80,000 kilometers, how long usually mag last ang Seiken Brake Master? 10,000 kilometers lang? Ayaw ko look at the brake master every 2 days and fearing there is leak.. so if I get the original Honda.. hindi ko na look palagi and be nervous.. hindi biro ang brakes... imagine you are moving at 100 k/h sa skyway and wala brakes.

I'd like to ask about bleeding or removing air from the newly installed braking system. Sa mga talier wala naman sila machine to bleed.. hindi ba magka problem ito.. like maging sponge like yun pedal??

many of the major car makers do not manufacture some of their parts. they buy from other specialized manufacturers.
i have heard of the seiken brand. "it seems popular." so no, i do not think it will last only 10,000 km. heh heh. why don't you take a look at what is installed in your car now? the manufacturer's mark may be there.

bleeding brake lines in our country is a manual chore. i have had mine done many times. ok naman, kahit for skyway purposes. heh heh.

btw, my brake master has gone over 110K km.
they are pretty reliable.

btw, i recommend looking at any replacement part frequently for the first few days (or weeks), just in case... that is, if they are easy to look at.

[k_leos]

many of the major car makers do not manufacture some of their parts. they buy from other specialized manufacturers.
i have heard of the seiken brand. "it seems popular." so no, i do not think it will last only 10,000 km. heh heh. why don't you take a look at what is installed in your car now? the manufacturer's mark may be there.

bleeding brake lines in our country is a manual chore. i have had mine done many times. ok naman, kahit for skyway purposes. heh heh.

btw, my brake master has gone over 110K km.
they are pretty reliable.

btw, i recommend looking at any replacement part frequently for the first few days (or weeks), just in case... that is, if they are easy to look at.

Thanks for the superb idea that honda brake master is not made by honda.. Ano maker usually sa mga CRV brake masters (I can't find the mark in my car)? They sell it separately to non-honda customers too?

ano brand ng brake master mo going over 110 Km? ito brand rin bili ko.. thanks

[k_leos]

Thanks for the superb idea that honda brake master is not made by honda.. Ano maker usually sa mga CRV brake masters (I can't find the mark in my car)? They sell it separately to non-honda customers too?

ano brand ng brake master mo going over 110 Km? ito brand rin bili ko.. thanks

ano oem maker nitong brake master ng Honda crv 2004? hindi ko Makita mark

if the leaking brake fluid gets inside the brake booster.. hindi masira diaphagram? what do you make of the picture of the leak?

[dr. d]

Thanks for the superb idea that honda brake master is not made by honda.. Ano maker usually sa mga CRV brake masters (I can't find the mark in my car)? They sell it separately to non-honda customers too?

ano brand ng brake master mo going over 110 Km? ito brand rin bili ko.. thanks

correction, po.
i did not say specifically, that honda does not make its own brake masters, because i don't know which company does it for them.
yespo, i believe honda sells brake masters. they quoted you 12K. and it probably says "honda" on the box. but who actually manufactured it, i do not know. suffice to say, honda believes it meets their quality standards, and are confident enough to put their name on the box.

my brake master came with the car, from the toyota factory, 12 years ago. but i haven't had the reason to go look for its manufacturer's mark, if it has any.

brake fluid is destructive, but only to certain materials, one of them being ordinary paint. it's not an acid; it's a solvent. that picture of your brake booster's ruined paint, is a common occurence.
i remember using brake fluid, to clean the surface of my polyurethane paint job, because it happened to rub surfaces with another paint surface. it does not harm the poly.

how long do brake masters last? it's probably a combination of manufacturing quality and type of use or abuse owner will subject it to.
by my personal experience, my korean brake master was overhauled on year 7. it was a van, so expectedly it was driven "harder than a car". my japanese cars have never had the brake master repaired or replaced, thruout the many years (ranging from 4 yr to 13 yr) we have owned the cars. by the paint marking in the picture, i am not sure if your brake master is 2004 original or it has been replaced already. my guess is the latter.
if you can't wait for the honda, or you find it excessively expensive, ask the store for a good, non-honda brand. if you wish to scrimp, you can ask the mechanic if yours can still be remedied by a repair kit. repair kits do not necessarily equate to short lifespan. just ask for the good quality one.

good luck, sir.

[k_leos]

I got confirmation that the OEM of Honda brake master are Nissin (not Seiken) and able to find a shop which sells them at only 7500.

But Honda casa said to install outside parts, they need to charge 30% of their original price which is
about 4,000. This is expensive.. however they said only they have Dialysis machine for proper bleeding treatment.

Since I got an OEM, there is no more concern about pedal softness. Therefore I want to let it be installed outside saving 4,000.

So my final question is. What other Dialysis Centers in the Philippines besides Honda? Kasi most technician doesn't treat bleeding or don't know how to deal with it. They just let it flow to basin at floor daw.

Thank you!

[samboy445]

many of the major car makers do not manufacture some of their parts. they buy from other specialized manufacturers.
i have heard of the seiken brand. "it seems popular." so no, i do not think it will last only 10,000 km. heh heh. why don't you take a look at what is installed in your car now? the manufacturer's mark may be there.

bleeding brake lines in our country is a manual chore. i have had mine done many times. ok naman, kahit for skyway purposes. heh heh.

btw, my brake master has gone over 110K km.
they are pretty reliable.

btw, i recommend looking at any replacement part frequently for the first few days (or weeks), just in case... that is, if they are easy to look at.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Car Zone at banawe quoted me 6500 pesos for the Seiken Brake Master. Pero ask ko important.. if the original Honda brake master can last 80,000 kilometers, how long usually mag last ang Seiken Brake Master? 10,000 kilometers lang? Ayaw ko look at the brake master every 2 days and fearing there is leak.. so if I get the original Honda.. hindi ko na look palagi and be nervous.. hindi biro ang brakes... imagine you are moving at 100 k/h sa skyway and wala brakes.

I'd like to ask about bleeding or removing air from the newly installed braking system. Sa mga talier wala naman sila machine to bleed.. hindi ba magka problem ito.. like maging sponge like yun pedal??

Your paranoia is so unwarranted.
I suggest you go to Google. A lot of articles in the net can explain this.

For example brake bleeding. Google "brake bleeding" and see if someone needs a "machine" to properly bleed a brake system.

[dr. d]

"he's a newbie. give him some slack."
i like his questioning attitude. maraming matututunan 'yan. "he's going places."

btw, the problem with buying sight unseen, is the part might not be the right one. it is not really that easy to have it replaced with the right one, or get a real refund.

[ice15]

I suggest na umikot ka sa Banawe (or kung saang auto supply ang convenient sayo) and replace the whole set... Cylinder + Booster...

[Lew_Alcindor]

have it serviced outside of casa. you dont have to believe everything they say. in case you've been living in a cave the past decade, casa repairs does not guarantee anything.

but seriously, you'll be surprised how simple the master cylinder is. it is an easy job for any mechanic.

[anthon05]

Google mo lang sa banawe may shop selling Honda Oem parts and replacement parts. I think not that expensive yung magandang replacement

Seiken or Aisin.

[StockEngine]

hyper corrosive 🤔

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[k_leos]

hyper corrosive 🤔

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ano cause ng hyper corrosive? you mean acidic ang braking fluid?

Pina periodic maintainance ko yung car last December sa Honda casa. They didn't notice the leak.

They only noticed it when I brought the car last friday because of a weird power steering problem where the steering only gets stiff the first 5 minutes of the day. Please see this thread and answer if you have any experiences:


Power Steering Morning Stiffness

Honda said the braking fluid is almost empty with it leaking all over the booster. It's blessing in disguise the steering power comes up or they would never have seen the leak and the car may just lift off from skyway at 100 km/h.. lol...

[StockEngine]

brake fluid is corrosive hehehe, I've never seen such damage

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