What's happening on DILG?

[holdencaulfield]

diba 4jb1 makina ng blizzard? matibay yung makina nyan.

[vinj]

diba 4jb1 makina ng blizzard? matibay yung makina nyan.

IF you see the existing MMDA Fotons. They still run but heck, everything else is literally falling off...

[zap.FREEDOM]

mabuti pa yung local government dito sa munisipyo namin, may taste pumili ng gagawin patrol vehicle, we have here units of Isuzu D-Max as tourist patrol vehicle, wayback 2006 they got a fleet of Hi-Lux patrol vehicles dito kaso mukhang di ata nagustuhan ayun pagpasok ng 2010 D-max na pinagkukuha nila. though tumatakbo pa naman yung mga Hi-Lux yun nga lang puro gasgas na at faded na ang paint.

[Manilablock]

FRONTIER 2.7 QB3 STD 4x2 MT 788,000
Blizzard 2.8 N/A 4x2 MT 653,000
Hilux 2.5 J Diesel 4x2 MT 848,000


ayan yung posted price nila. no wonder nanalo sa bidding ang Foton. ang layo kasi ng price difference.

Nakalimutan ata i-factor ung maintenace at durability, pero kung magbibigay ang Foton ng 10 year warranty on parts and labor panalo na din.

[niky]

IF you see the existing MMDA Fotons. They still run but heck, everything else is literally falling off...

Same feedback I get from elsewhere. The engines aren't a big problem, but the body integrity is. (At least for the Blizzard).

At least they're Blizzards. Simple trucks, easy to fix, easy to understand.

With the PCSO, we get stuck with the Foton View Ambulance, which has a lot of interior trim that degrades and discolors over time.

[uls]

the Foton guys went to where the money is --- the government

[vinj]

the Foton guys went to where the money is --- the government

I guess the only guys who also seem to buy their products are the government as well. Hardly see any private Foton pickups. Yung trucks maybe but once private companies have not-so-good experience, they'll switch back to the usual Mitsu-Isuzu trucks.

[Sweetlucious]

Mas naaasar ako sa mga luxury cars na red plate. Saw an alphard with red plate. Ano meron sa alphard na wala sa hiace.Ottoman seats? Meron din mga v6 camry. WTF.

[uls]

I guess the only guys who also seem to buy their products are the government as well. Hardly see any private Foton pickups. Yung trucks maybe but once private companies have not-so-good experience, they'll switch back to the usual Mitsu-Isuzu trucks.

yup they know selling China vehicles to the private sector would be tough so they went to the govt

alam naman natin mahirap ka-deal ang gobyerno but those guys went ahead and became very successful

sigurado katakot-takot na lobbying yan

[JohnM]

yup they know selling China vehicles to the private sector would be tough so they went to the govt

alam naman natin mahirap ka-deal ang gobyerno but those guys went ahead and became very successful

sigurado katakot-takot na lobbying yan

Pag-bidding kasi out na agad ang bias. As long as kumpleto ang requirements and lowest bid panalo. I'm still hoping na kasama sa budget ang parts and maintenance even for a few years para masulit naman.

[vinj]

yup they know selling China vehicles to the private sector would be tough so they went to the govt

alam naman natin mahirap ka-deal ang gobyerno but those guys went ahead and became very successful

sigurado katakot-takot na lobbying yan

Instead of putting your marketing budget for ads and promos, ipinapangbayad nalang to get the contracts.

Pag-bidding kasi out na agad ang bias. As long as kumpleto ang requirements and lowest bid panalo. I'm still hoping na kasama sa budget ang parts and maintenance even for a few years para masulit naman.

With gov't bidding, even if you are the lowest bidder and with a good product (and intent), hahanapan ka ng butas to give the contract to the "favored" supplier/contractor.

[JohnM]

With gov't bidding, even if you are the lowest bidder and with a good product (and intent), hahanapan ka ng butas to give the contract to the "favored" supplier/contractor.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt although their track record does not deserve it. Biddings are open to the public and on budgets this big I'm sure the media will be there watching. Let's see kung magreklamo ang losing bidders

-Edit
Teka may final decision na ba? They have 30-45 days to create prototypes and only then will the bidding start:

The DILG chief has tasked the officials of the PNP to come up with new specifications for the new vehicles it would bid out which include its fuel, engine displacement, horsepower, transmission among others.

“On the part of the PNP, I will give them the challenge of coming out with new specs for the new vehicles to be procured, the attachment of roofing and convertible seats, with the end in view na walang question on their end, na walang bahid ng anomalya o kontrobersya” the DILG chief said.

The car manufacturers interested in joining the bidding would be required to produce a prototype of the vehicle they would supply to the PNP.

“We will give them (car dealers) 30 to 45 days to come up with their respective prototypes which they would present to the various PNP offices involved in the bidding,” he said.

http://www.pia.gov.ph/news/index.php...e=261371778124

[niky]

Panalong panalo sila sa bidding. Even without having to cut prices, they're already way below the Japanese brands, even if the distributors cut their income to 1-2%... whereas Foton could sell for close to consumer pricing (with maybe a few percent discount).

And if they can sell that many at market price, of course, puwede pang i-bundle yan ng free servicing... five year contracts. (service, not oil and spares )

[viper888]

Remember when Coca Cola Philippines picked Chery QQs as their fleet cars.......
Its very hard to test durability, you arent really sure when its gonna break

[number001]

Paging KIM HENARES and her goon squad to make sure these FOTON guys are paying the right tax (income, import, VAT, etc...)

[Syuryuken]

Pag-bidding kasi out na agad ang bias. As long as kumpleto ang requirements and lowest bid panalo. I'm still hoping na kasama sa budget ang parts and maintenance even for a few years para masulit naman.

Sa bidding hindi lahat ng pinakamababa ang panalo may clause dun na right to reject or something. kung sino ang mas pursigido yun ang panalo alam nyo naman sa mga supply officers lahat gagawin kumita lang ng malaki kaya nga tigil na din kami sa kabibid sayang lang oras pag may di ka napagbigyan tengga ang tseke mo.

[kinyo]

kahit anong brand ang ibigay sa govt natin, mabubulok at mabubulok yan, kaya dun na lang sila sa mura

ayos lang madali mabulok, edi bili uli bago ... ayos na uli bulsa nila

[glenn manikis]

Same here... ang hirap pumasok dyan... gagstos ka pa sa bid docs. Ang tagal pa mag bayad...buwan ang aabutin ang transactions pati Payment, tapos parang ninong ka pa sa lahat.... then yung overprice, halos lahat naman napupunta din sakanila...

pero kung private co. --- send ka bus. Proposal, kung ok... p.o. na sila... pag na deliver mo goods mo, cod na agad.. almost no waiting time... not even a day..

[uls]

kaya bilib ako sa mga Foton guys na yan

iwas nga kami ka-deal ang gobyerno

join daw kami sa bidding may bayad agad sasali palang sa bidding

nevermind

[glenn manikis]

Pag ganyan ba sir uls... re. Foton pickup ... paano nila pinapasok dito yan?
Fr. China galing yun dba? Considered truck din ba yun? Saan dumadaan? Sa subic ba?