What to do when flagged down by cops?

**XTO** · October 16th, 2006 01:10 PM

oras de peligro ba? okay lang mag search with the help of flashlight

but body search? with matching tutok ng m-16? mali yun!

esp me kasama kang babae. kakahiya sa mga nakakakita para

tayong suspected ?#?!!

**froshie1** · October 16th, 2006 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by badsekktor

I dont know if this should belong to this section... mods pakilipat na lang kung saan appropriate yun thread.

Ask ko lang kung ano SOP ng mga pulis sa pag-flag down ng motorist?

Yesterday, Friday the 13th, I was with my fiancee at papaluwas kami ng manila so sa may balintawak cloverleaf na kami papa-akyat papunta monumento then pinara kami ng 2 pulis(yun isa may m16 pa at nakaupo sa may hood ng patrol car) so ako naman tumabi ako in front of their patrol then binaba ko yun bintana tapos tinanong ko yun pulis kung ano violation ko then sabi nya tint daw so sinabi ko sa kanya kasi sa fiancee ko yun at syempre babae yun driver so kelangan medyo tinted talaga (sa fiancee ko talaga yun sasakyan) tapos hiningan ako ng licensya at rehistro ng sasakyan saka tinanong kung may baril na dala at pinababa ako ng sasakyan (medyo nakaumang na rin yun kasama nya na naka m16) since wala naman ako alam na violation at walang ginagawang illegal eh di bumaba ako while yun m16 ng kasama nya eh nakatutok sakin (i cant blame them, malaki kasi ako eh!) tapos kinakapkapan ako nung kasama nya. binigay ko yun lisensya ko tapos nakita nila na may hand gun license ako. nung makita nila yun medyo bumait sila sa kin (bakit kaya?) then thorough search sila sa sasakyan which is ok lang naman since i am not really fond of bringing guns (baka makadisgrasya pa) tapos habang nagsesearch eh kinukwentuhan ako nung pulis telling me that i should get a PTC dahil sa dami na daw ng kriminal ngayon pero sabi ko mahigpit ang crame at kailangan ng police report na may threat ka sa buhay mo. sabi nung isang pulis "barilin mo yun gate mo then pagawa ka ng report".

Di ko masasabi na rant eto pero gusto ko lang maliwanagan. paano ba dapat ang gagawin kapag pinara ka ng pulis at gusto i-search sasakyan mo?
Wala naman kasi nakalagay na checkpoint dun at dalawa lang sila. Di rin naman sila LTO or traffic enforcer... kinabahan nga ako after makaalis kami kasi pwede sila mag-plant ng kung ano sa sasakyan, the way the police conducted the search medyo di malabo mangyari yun. Siguro pumayag lang ako since "in good faith" at tiwala ako sa kanila dahil wala naman ako ginagawa kalokohan.

alam ko di nila dapat ginawa iyon. at baket ka tututukan ng baril, mga ugok talaga iyon. pero buti na lang walang nangyari sa iyo at sa kasama mo.

**badsekktor** · October 16th, 2006 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by froshie1

alam ko di nila dapat ginawa iyon. at baket ka tututukan ng baril, mga ugok talaga iyon. pero buti na lang walang nangyari sa iyo at sa kasama mo.

pasalamat na nga rin ako at wala nangyari sa min pero mukhang malas yata talaga friday the 13th.

ang hirap kasi ng kalagayan natin dahil ordinaryong mamamayan lang tayo.... mahirap kasi makipag-argue sa ganung sitwasyon, sila kasi ang may baril at may authority, kahit ikaw ang nasa lugar eh worthless na rin yun kung nasa kabaong na kami ng fiancee ko....

**OTEP** · October 16th, 2006 07:50 PM

Araw araw ako dumadaan diyan. Kapag hindi mo sila hinintuan, hindi ka nila hahabulin. Aantayin na lang nila kasunod mo.

Minsan poporma lang na pasakay (makikita mo sa rear view mirror mo) pero hindi patatakbuhin yung sasakyan. May jeep kasi na di pumansin sa kanila. Pumorma lang na sasakay pero bumaba din at nag-antay na lang ulit.

Always drive immediately to the side nearest the center island (kahit parang swerving ito). If you drive on the right side of the road (diba may concrete 'divider' yun) and do not go down the cloverleaf again, paparahin ka nila. Bawal DAW yun.

**mikey177** · October 16th, 2006 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Always drive immediately to the side nearest the center island (kahit parang swerving ito). If you drive on the right side of the road (diba may concrete 'divider' yun) and do not go down the cloverleaf again, paparahin ka nila. Bawal DAW yun.

Thanks for the tip, Otep. Ginagawa ko minsan yun (take the lane to the right of the concrete divider, not the rightmost lane) pag galing kami ng NLEX kasi mahirap lumusot sa side nearest the center island, ambibilis kasi ng mga sasakyan sa EDSA

**Juzam Djinn** · October 20th, 2006 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by badsekktor

I dont know if this should belong to this section... mods pakilipat na lang kung saan appropriate yun thread.

Ask ko lang kung ano SOP ng mga pulis sa pag-flag down ng motorist?

Yesterday, Friday the 13th, I was with my fiancee at papaluwas kami ng manila so sa may balintawak cloverleaf na kami papa-akyat papunta monumento then pinara kami ng 2 pulis(yun isa may m16 pa at nakaupo sa may hood ng patrol car) so ako naman tumabi ako in front of their patrol then binaba ko yun bintana tapos tinanong ko yun pulis kung ano violation ko then sabi nya tint daw so sinabi ko sa kanya kasi sa fiancee ko yun at syempre babae yun driver so kelangan medyo tinted talaga (sa fiancee ko talaga yun sasakyan) tapos hiningan ako ng licensya at rehistro ng sasakyan saka tinanong kung may baril na dala at pinababa ako ng sasakyan (medyo nakaumang na rin yun kasama nya na naka m16) since wala naman ako alam na violation at walang ginagawang illegal eh di bumaba ako while yun m16 ng kasama nya eh nakatutok sakin (i cant blame them, malaki kasi ako eh!) tapos kinakapkapan ako nung kasama nya. binigay ko yun lisensya ko tapos nakita nila na may hand gun license ako. nung makita nila yun medyo bumait sila sa kin (bakit kaya?) then thorough search sila sa sasakyan which is ok lang naman since i am not really fond of bringing guns (baka makadisgrasya pa) tapos habang nagsesearch eh kinukwentuhan ako nung pulis telling me that i should get a PTC dahil sa dami na daw ng kriminal ngayon pero sabi ko mahigpit ang crame at kailangan ng police report na may threat ka sa buhay mo. sabi nung isang pulis "barilin mo yun gate mo then pagawa ka ng report".

Di ko masasabi na rant eto pero gusto ko lang maliwanagan. paano ba dapat ang gagawin kapag pinara ka ng pulis at gusto i-search sasakyan mo?
Wala naman kasi nakalagay na checkpoint dun at dalawa lang sila. Di rin naman sila LTO or traffic enforcer... kinabahan nga ako after makaalis kami kasi pwede sila mag-plant ng kung ano sa sasakyan, the way the police conducted the search medyo di malabo mangyari yun. Siguro pumayag lang ako since "in good faith" at tiwala ako sa kanila dahil wala naman ako ginagawa kalokohan.

there are lotof abusive cops out there. even if we have laws the problem is the implementation. now there is a saying " ignorance of the law is not an excuse from compliance therewith".

here are some important information to remember i hope this helps:

Article 3 bill of rights section 2 states:

[SIZE=5]The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures of whatever nature and for any purpose shall be inviolable, and no search warrant or warrant of arrest shall issue except upon probable cause to be determined personally by the judge after examination under oath or affirmation of the complainant and the witnesses he may produce, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=5]they cannot insist on searching your car if you dont allow them to do so. there are a lot of charges you can file like for ex:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=5]if they arrest you because you refused to have your car search. you can charge them of violation of the revised penal code as follows:[/SIZE]

Art. 124. Arbitrary detention. — Any public officer or employee who, without legal grounds, detains a person, shall suffer;

1. The penalty of arresto mayor in its maximum period to prision correccional in its minimum period, if the detention has not exceeded three days; 2. The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods, if the detention has continued more than three but not more than fifteen days;
3. The penalty of prision mayor, if the detention has continued for more than fifteen days but not more than six months; and
4. That of reclusion temporal, if the detention shall have exceeded six months.

The commission of a crime, or violent insanity or any other ailment requiring the compulsory confinement of the patient in a hospital, shall be considered legal grounds for the detention of any person

--CHECK POINTS ARE SUBJECTED FOR VISUAL SEARCHES ONLY UNLESS THERE IS A PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THEM TO SEARCH YOUR CAR . AND THEY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN A WELL LIT AREA. FOR EX:

THEY VISUALLY SAW YOUR GUN OR ANY WEAPON OR DRUGS.

FINAL WORDS :

IF THEY INSIST ON SEARCHING YOUR CAR CALL THE POLICE. I MEANT OTHER POLICE WHO ARE LOCATED IN YOUR JURISDICTION OR CALL 117 FOR GLOBE USERS. OR BETTER YET CALL THE PRESS. I HOPE THIS HELPS.

here are other helpful information :

As a rule, a valid search must be authorized by a search warrant duly issued by an appropriate authority. However, a warrantless search can be made in the following cases:

(a) moving vehicles and the seizure of evidence in plain view; (b) as long asthe vehicle is neither searched nor its occupant/s subjected to a body search, and the inspection of the vehicle is merely limited to a visual search;
(c) when the occupant(s) of the vehicle appear to be nervous or suspicious or exhibit unnatural reaction;
(d) if the officer conducting the search has reasonable or probable cause to believe that either the occupant(s) is a law offender or that the instrumentality or evidence pertaining to the commission of a crime can be found in the vehicle to be searched; and
(e) on the basis of prior confidential information which are reasonably corroborated by other attendant matters

**arvic** · October 20th, 2006 12:12 PM

share ko lang experience ko sa check point..

sa may julia vargas shell C5 going to mega mall, around 9pm pinara ako ng 9 member Pasig Elite naka full battle gear talaga sila with sign board naman yung operation nila...

naka glass plate cover kc ako kakatapos lang ng ulan then napuno ng putik.... pinara ako so i stop then ask for my violation. sabi ng team leader nila wala daw yung plate ko sa likod, so nagulat ako bumaba ako agad at tinignan yun pala puno ng putik kaya di na makita ang plate..

pinunasan ko then pinakita ko... tinuloy na nila yung search ask for my license and registration, after noon pina sakay ako sa kotse uli. visual search lng daw.. nag ask sila kung may baril ako... so nag biro ako... sabi ko " sir dami nyo ng baril kulang pa po ba yan?" natawa lang yung team leader then bumaba uli ako at personal ko ng binuksan lahat ng pinto ng car.

sabi ng team leader " sir bawal po yan! sa loob lang po kyo.." pero i insist kaya tinignan na din nila..

It sound odd pero sa lahat ng encounter ko with our police men never ako natakot at still may tiwala pa din ako sa system ng law enforcement sa atin.