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October 20th, 2006 03:49 AM #291
pardon my ignorance pero bakit nagkaroon ng pools of water sa skyway? granted na malakas ang downpour during that time, eh di ba dapat adequate ang drainage system ng skyway kasi alam naman ng lahat na dangerous ang pools of water sa kalsada?
hindi kaya barado ang mga drainage holes kaya hayun at nagkaroon ng water ponding at certain places?...nagtataka lang po.
kung pabaya sa maintenance ang PNCC sa skyway ay me liability din sila sa nangyari di ba?Last edited by lolo pepe; October 20th, 2006 at 04:15 AM. Reason: me nakalimutang isulat
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October 20th, 2006 04:09 AM #292
Look at this link (PDF) to a UK standard for barriers (called parapets):
http://www.corusgroup.com/file_sourc...0_01-10-03.pdf
Might be useful too:
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/si...&id=4530605013
First link has this image:
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October 20th, 2006 04:44 AM #293
I can attest that those barriers really pushes you back on the road. I drove into one of those when I fell asleep at the wheel going to work after a long shift the night prior. I was lucky it wasn't head on but at an angle about 60degrees I guess. I woke up and my car was on two wheels with the passenger side riding the barrier. If you've ever watched Dukes of Hazzard you get the picture of what it looked like, scared the living crap out of me and I was very much awake for the whole day. BTW I had no vehicle damage and I was going about 65MPH.
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October 20th, 2006 04:57 AM #294
redorange,
good news that nothing bad happened. You were doing 65MPH back then (which is equivalent to 104.5KMH) and yet your car didn't jump the barrier.
the skyway barriers are really not at par with the U.S. standards kasi kahit 80KPH pa lang, over the bakod na ang trooper.
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October 20th, 2006 05:08 AM #295
Lucky you... hope that cured your sleep-driving... ...I've only ever fallen asleep at the wheel once, and when I woke up, I was still going straight (out for ten seconds... damn lucky)... never did it again...
I saw a demo of those barriers on video... the solution is so elegant, effective and simple, it's wonder why we don't do it yet. Doesn't cost much more than the pre-fab forms they're using already... and they can locally manufacture it, too!
RE: puddles?
It's possible, considering the sag between expansion joints... not really familiar with that part of the Skyway... I'll have to look tomorrow on my way to Laguna... I haven't driven on that section for a long time.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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October 20th, 2006 05:25 AM #296
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October 20th, 2006 06:11 AM #297-di ba umamin yung fortuner driver that nag hydroplane daw sya because he was drving quiet fast on the skyway then he hit the Trooper. trooper driver also said he was hit thats why he crushed into the barrier. oh men, ingat ingat nalang tayo. taas nun. kakatakot. paano kung small car like mga picanto yung nalaglag edi lagot yung driver.
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October 20th, 2006 10:20 AM #298Sorry for the delayed reply. The 5 michelin synkron tires cost an additional
P8,000 at a tire dealership in binan, laguna (can pm you the name if you are interested). Please note that i drove the fortuner straight from the toyota dealer to have the tires changed so that must have influenced the trade-in value of the bridgestones. But i can tell you that the michelins really improved the ride quality of the fortuner and are not susceptible to hydroplaning during wet driving.
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October 20th, 2006 10:23 AM #299
Hmmm... given that the Picanto is much shorter and smaller than the Trooper, i would think that its driver and passengers would worry more about being crushed against the barrier than falling over it.
But anyhow, the drainage system and the barriers should be under close scrutiny. In a downpour, water does accumulate at some places on the skyway, and it takes some time for those puddles to dissipate. Though flood control is something impossible to implement in most parts of the Philippines, it's something that has to work for our toll-imposed highways (SLEX, Skyway, NLEX). This is not to say we can drive above the posted speed limits, and recklessly at that, however, it's still a requirement from PNCC.
As to the barriers, well, they should keep the vehicles driving on the Skyway, on the Skyway. So if they're supposedly up to "international standards", then these standards should be revisited. Just like in the case of 9/11, wherein "international standards" of aviation security had to be tightened as they were too lax.
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October 20th, 2006 01:24 PM #300
Yes, PNCC must know about those already, for all we know they want to build the super high-tech expressways possible with all safety gadgets and speed cams, radars and everything but the problem lies again in the market. Building modern highways or any project for that matter costs a lot of money and you need to find a way to recoup that money in the shortest possible time so you can then earn. Sad but that's reality in a 3rd world country. We can beat that by driving carefully.
Skyway is an unnecessary expense for most motorists in SLEX so pricing it prohibitively in trying to recoup investment will make it a money sucker.
Yes it can be avoided and yes, i often aquaplane when i run over a body of water quite faster than i should.
Hmmm, thanks i'll remember that. I did aquaplane test driving a friend's Touareg *120kph, thankfully it didn't spin. If i'm not mistaken, it's an AWD also.
Putting the gun in safety switch on means you're not using it.
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