Holdapers at New Antipolo st. galing ka Chinese Gen.Hospital

[DonCuadro]

Last week Aug.8 around 2-3 AM, My brad and I went to pares retiro(sa dulo), nung tapos na kami, uwi na kami abad santos, so daan namin chinese gen, tapos left kami papuntang new antipolo st sa may riles. so nung nandun kami sa riles nakita namin may nakahigang tao sa gilid na parang patay ang pagkakahiga, then sabi ko sa brad ko hinto mo sasakyan tignan natin yan baka patay, so tigil kami.walang ka taotao sa paligid puro barongbarong lang. For safety purpose i tucked my carrygun(concealed) on my waist kasi ugali ko na pag alanganing lugar i always carry my gun, upon aprroach sa tao, may 3 lalaki na na tumatakbo papunta sa min, yung 2 may bitbit na mahabang bagay tapos yung isa naman makikita mo na kutsilyo talaga yung bitbit, tapos nung malapit na sila 2x2 pala na kahoy yung bitbit ng dalawa.. sabi ko sa brad ko tignan mo sa likod natin baka meron pa kasi iba na to... sabi nung isa samin P**ng ina niyo binangga niyo kapatid ko habang lumohod siya sa nakahigang tao.. sandali sandali sabi ko( mga 5 meters layo namin sa kanila)nasa grile na kami ng sasakyan. napadaan lang kami at nakita namin yang nakahigang tao, tutulungan sana namin. tumayo yung lalaki, p**ng ina niyo sinungaling(parang aatake na), bunot na ng baril(chamber loaded na ako) wag kayong lalapit may baril ako, sigaw yung isang lalaki pellet lang yan. nag warning shot na ako, sabay tutok sa kanila takbo yung dalawa, yung may kutsilyo parang lalapit pa eh. sabi ko sa sarili ko sarili ko, di na laro to, totoong scenario na ito, sabi ko sa lalaki, dalawang hakbang pa, tutumba ka na, Promise.. nag isip yung lalaki, umatras tapos sabay takbo, kami naman dali dali sumakay tapos, patakbo sasakyan... ung nakahigang tao nandun pa din.. sabi ko sa brad ko Blotter natin, sabi niya wag na. aberya lang yan. Kung wala siguro akong baril, malamang baka may patay na samin ng brad ko or worst, 2 kami na patay na..

di ko makalimutan yun, ganun pala feeling. Buti nalang at gun club member ako, very calm ako at di ako ninerbyos kasi baka ma rattle ako at makalabit ko trigger ko at pagbabarilin ko sila lahat. alam ko ginagawa ko. kasi at a blink of an eye may mamatay sa kanila.

sa lugar na yun, wala man lang tanod o mga ilaw man lang sana, pano yung mga ibang motorista na mabibiktima nila, ano kaya gagawin nila sa kanila. holdap tapos papatayin nila..tsktsktsk. Yung mga walang armas para ma defend man lang sarili nila. pano na sila..

Siguro nga isolated case lang to, pano kung may namatay dito? Ingat dito sa lugar na to mga tsikoteers.by the way Hyundai tucson tsikot namin that time, siguro alam nila mga yuppies nakasakay.

diko talaga makalimutan yung saying sa gun club: ITS BETTER TO HAVE A GUN AND NEVER NEED IT, THAN NEED IT AND NEVER HAVE ONE....

[jaymd]

buti na lang may dala ka bro. hirap talaga buhay ngayon. madami talaga ogags dyan sa may area na yan. sana nag warning shot ka sa binti nya para matuto

[shadow]

madilim talaga sa lugar na yan dapat hinde na kayo tumigil at bumaba ng kotse sana tumawag na lang kayo ng police i report na meron tao na nakahiga doon

[Altis6453]

Buti nalang at hindi na naka-porma pa ang mga yun. Hindi na talaga safe ang mga kalye ngayon sa mga masasamang loob.

[shadow]

sana binaril mo na kahit sa mga legs lang...para madala SAYANG!!!

[DonCuadro]

pag binaril ko kahiit sa legs lang, malaking aberya parin yan. pero kung lumapit at i a ataack na kami, di na ako magdadalawang isip pa.

[KERSMcRae]

*DonCuadro,

Paano sir kung may baril din yung isa. Sigurado pag bumunot yun ay ipuputok talaga dahil walang ibang gagawin kundi aatake. Ano ang gagawin nyo (as PPSA member) kung naging ganun na ang sitwasyon? Are you going to pin down the guy with a gun or tutuluyan nyo as self-defense? Im sure asintado naman kayo (kasi gun club member) hindi katulad ng ibang unipormadong ..'ahem, ahem'... dyan.

[claRkEnt]

hirap na talaga ma-distinguish ngayon kung ano ang tunay na dapat tulungan at alin ang trap! hayyy buhay nga naman...

the thing is, mas matindi mha holdaper ngayon. simple na lang ang pumatay sa kanila. tsk tsk

[hitomi]

sir doncuadro, never never disembark from your vehicle in areas like that. it's a hold up modus operandi. if it really was a dead body, the local residents would have reported that.

[uls]

pwede naman just avoid/ignore the body on the ground eh

baket pa kailangan huminto at bumaba?

[Altis6453]

*DonCuadro,

Paano sir kung may baril din yung isa. Sigurado pag bumunot yun ay ipuputok talaga dahil walang ibang gagawin kundi aatake. Ano ang gagawin nyo (as PPSA member) kung naging ganun na ang sitwasyon? Are you going to pin down the guy with a gun or tutuluyan nyo as self-defense? Im sure asintado naman kayo (kasi gun club member) hindi katulad ng ibang unipormadong ..'ahem, ahem'... dyan.

If the TS shoots back, or even shoots first, its complete self-defense, in my opinion. There is unlawful aggression on the part of the 3 strangers which would have led him to think that there existed imminent threat to his life and that of his friends, there is reasonable necessity of the means used to repel that aggression (the gun), and lastly, there was no sufficient provocation on the part of the TS and his group to warrant the aggression.

Pero, yun lang...meron talagang abala kasi ang huwes lang ang makakapag-sabi na ang nangyari ay complete self-defense.

[DonCuadro]

*DonCuadro,

Paano sir kung may baril din yung isa. Sigurado pag bumunot yun ay ipuputok talaga dahil walang ibang gagawin kundi aatake. Ano ang gagawin nyo (as PPSA member) kung naging ganun na ang sitwasyon? Are you going to pin down the guy with a gun or tutuluyan nyo as self-defense? Im sure asintado naman kayo (kasi gun club member) hindi katulad ng ibang unipormadong ..'ahem, ahem'... dyan.

Depende na sa sitwassyon yan, Nakita ko naman na may hawak sila, so presumed yun lang, i draw the gun first so i have the advantage of firing first. first aim is to the attacker, next aim siguro sa mas malapit sakin.

Now kung ang sitwasyon is nauna nag draw yung attackers ng baril and nakatutok samin, syempre taas kamay namin, sasabihin ko sa kanila, kunin niyo nalang lahat, i will hand them may wallet pa ah. then if possible na ka baba na ung gun nila and advantageous nako sa kanila, i will draw my gun, 3 of them, 2 seconds, 1 shot each person lang yan.

Sa PPSA competition kasi, Practical Shooting is the fastest growing shooting sport in the world to date. Combining the elements of Speed, Power, and Accuracy, it is a venue that seeks to develop and test an individual's shooting skills in a controlled environment. Practical shooting matches are realistic, diverse and fun, mixing props such as barricades, doors, shooting ports, tunnels and other everyday objects with full or partially exposed targets, moving targets, penalty-carrying no-shoot targets and steel reactive targets to test the skills and techniques of the practical shooting competitor.

Practical shooting is done freestyle - there is no single method by which a shooting scenario may be engaged and individual competitors may have their own solution to the shooting problem at hand. Each competitor's resulting score is determined by the number of hits made on a given target, divided by the elapsed time needed to complete the scenario.

Truly may silbe yung mga gastos sa competion PRAKTIS

[DonCuadro]

pwede naman just avoid/ignore the body on the ground eh

baket pa kailangan huminto at bumaba?

Excuse me, instinct ko na siguro yun. Tulungan ang nangangailangan.
Kahit sa pedestrian lane, may makita akong matanda tutulungan ko talaga.
after the deed pare ang gaan ng feeling ng may matulungan.
I dont know about you, as for my part tutulungan ko kung may maitutulong ako.
wala naman mababawasan sa pagkalalaki sa pagtulong eh.
It happened talaga WRONG PLACE AND WRONG TIME!!!!

[rai711]

Depende na sa sitwassyon yan, Nakita ko naman na may hawak sila, so presumed yun lang, i draw the gun first so i have the advantage of firing first. first aim is to the attacker, next aim siguro sa mas malapit sakin.

Now kung ang sitwasyon is nauna nag draw yung attackers ng baril and nakatutok samin, syempre taas kamay namin, sasabihin ko sa kanila, kunin niyo nalang lahat, i will hand them may wallet pa ah. then if possible na ka baba na ung gun nila and advantageous nako sa kanila, i will draw my gun, 3 of them, 2 seconds, 1 shot each person lang yan.

Sa PPSA competition kasi, Practical Shooting is the fastest growing shooting sport in the world to date. Combining the elements of Speed, Power, and Accuracy, it is a venue that seeks to develop and test an individual's shooting skills in a controlled environment. Practical shooting matches are realistic, diverse and fun, mixing props such as barricades, doors, shooting ports, tunnels and other everyday objects with full or partially exposed targets, moving targets, penalty-carrying no-shoot targets and steel reactive targets to test the skills and techniques of the practical shooting competitor.

Practical shooting is done freestyle - there is no single method by which a shooting scenario may be engaged and individual competitors may have their own solution to the shooting problem at hand. Each competitor's resulting score is determined by the number of hits made on a given target, divided by the elapsed time needed to complete the scenario.

Truly may silbe yung mga gastos sa competion PRAKTIS

OT: sir pwede ba magpamember?magkanu membership fee? mga tatlong beses na kasi ako na bigwasan ng mga mandurukot sa jeep(along imelda ave. and ortigas ave.) kaya nadala na ko. I brought my own car na lang pag umaalis and of course i alway bring my gun din.

Pero kung ako nasa lagay nyo sir malamang binaril ko na yung dalawa isa lang ititra ko para makulong tapos yung dalawa tutuluyan ko para mabawasan naman masasamang tao sa mundo. I will say teka mga brads tatlo lang kau labing lima bala ko di man ako asintado pero uubusin ko to sa inyo...heheh joke lang mahirap kalaban kunsensya..kaya sau sir

[KERSMcRae]

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Minsan naisipan ko din sumali sa mga gun clubs and own a hand gun (kahit 9mm lang). Na-experience ko na rin kasi maholdap sa may Pasig (nadamay lang).

After that incident, nagpupunta ako sa mga exhibit ng PPSA (sa Megatrade, Megamall). I tried to have a grip dun sa mga baril na nakadisplay. Pagkahawak ko parang nanggigigil ako kaya sabi ko sa isip ko huwag na lang...hindi ko na itinuloy ang balak ko to own one.

[DonCuadro]

OT: sir pwede ba magpamember?magkanu membership fee? mga tatlong beses na kasi ako na bigwasan ng mga mandurukot sa jeep(along imelda ave. and ortigas ave.) kaya nadala na ko. I brought my own car na lang pag umaalis and of course i alway bring my gun din.

Pero kung ako nasa lagay nyo sir malamang binaril ko na yung dalawa isa lang ititra ko para makulong tapos yung dalawa tutuluyan ko para mabawasan naman masasamang tao sa mundo. I will say teka mga brads tatlo lang kau labing lima bala ko di man ako asintado pero uubusin ko to sa inyo...heheh joke lang mahirap kalaban kunsensya..kaya sau sir

I suggest sir mag member ka muna ng gun club.
Personally speaking, if member ka ng gun club, mas disciplinado ka eh.
samin kasi, we think before we shoot.
Responsible gun owners are responsible motorists too.. Di nga ba?

[Altis6453]

No responsible gun owner would want to shoot at someone. Although, if your life is at stake, or that of a loved one, you must stand your ground and be prepared to use your firearm.

[uls]

DonCuadro:

Excuse me, instinct ko na siguro yun. Tulungan ang nangangailangan.
Kahit sa pedestrian lane, may makita akong matanda tutulungan ko talaga.
after the deed pare ang gaan ng feeling ng may matulungan.
I dont know about you, as for my part tutulungan ko kung may maitutulong ako.
wala naman mababawasan sa pagkalalaki sa pagtulong eh.
It happened talaga WRONG PLACE AND WRONG TIME!!!!

di naman po pagkalalaki ang issue dito eh

baket niyo po naisip pagkalalaki po ang issue?

the point is sound judgement

like what hitomi said:

sir doncuadro, never never disembark from your vehicle in areas like that. it's a hold up modus operandi. if it really was a dead body, the local residents would have reported that.

DonCuadro:

I dont know about you, as for my part tutulungan ko kung may maitutulong ako.

well, kung ako yun, sa lugar na ganyan, sa time na ganyan, i would just ignore and avoid the body

[innoBOB[09JmtG]]

meron din ganito along C5, pero may araw pa yun, asa center island, malamang nabundol nga un..

buti nalang responsible gun owner si TS. i salute you! bihira na ngayon yan!

[praetor91313]

meron din ganito along C5, pero may araw pa yun, asa center island, malamang nabundol nga un..

buti nalang responsible gun owner si TS. i salute you! bihira na ngayon yan!

Tama. I've witnessed one too. May nakabagsak na lalaki na walang malay at may motor sa harap nya na bagsak din sa may cemetery na area.

Nagkatraffic na nga dahil naharang nya yung right-most lane pero walang bumababa at tumutulong.