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    To those who pass by commonwealth, you may notice that there are now new huge permanent U-turn slots for those going from UP to elliptical, and those the ones coming from central, going to the side gate of UP.

    I decided to use the once coming from central, since it would be easier to merge right towards the UP gate with 2 lanes shaved off.

    Mukhang bukas naman, walang harang yung papasok.

    Pagdating ko sa other side... p*!#!*!! may concrete barriers palang nakaharang sa exit!!

    Buti napagkasya ko in between yung pickup.

    Pero kung may mga nagtitrip doon at ginawang pang racing yung U-turn slot? o kaya kung may inaantok na gumamit noon pag gabi?

    balita na sila the next day.

    Isa na namang good job mula sa MMDA.

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    fret no more hinde na si Bf ang MMDA chairman...hinde na kasalanan ng mga drivers pag bumangga sila sa mga concrete barriers na walang reflectorized...

    good job to the new MMDA chairman at hinde matigas ang ulo at umaamin pag meron palpak sa project unlike yun nauna na wala ng ibang magaling at tama kundi siya.kahit obvious na palpak yun ginawa.

    MMDA to make U-turn slots safer
    By Mike Frialde (The Philippine Star) Updated December 12, 2009 12:00 AM

    MANILA, Philippines - As part of its ongoing evaluation of the U-turn slots placed along major thoroughfares of the metropolis during the term of then Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairman Bayani Fernando, the agency now aims to make the U-turn slots safer for motorists.

    Acting on orders of Chairman Oscar Inocentes, the MMDA’s Traffic Engineering Center is putting up directional signs 50 to 250 meters away, warning motorists that they are approaching a U-turn slot.

    Inocentes also said the MMDA will install protruded solar-powered blinker lights on each of the U-turn slots.

    “This is expected to lessen accidents, “ Inocentes said.

    As an added safety measure, Inocentes also ordered the installation of rumble strips on parts of the road approaching the U-turn slots.

    “These rumble strips are made of steel bars laid on the road and cause jerky movements on the vehicles to alert drunk and sleepy drivers especially during night time and avoid any unnecessary accident,” he said.

    The MMDA is also trying to make the “pink fences” along the roads safer to motorists by placing reflectorized hazard markers on them.

    Despite criticisms from motorists that the MMDA’s concrete U-turn slots are road hazards, the agency still maintains that U-turn slots are effective in decongesting Metro Manila.

    Inocentes said that at present all the 38 U-turn slots put in place by the MMDA are now being evaluated.

    Those found to be hazardous will be closed to prevent future mishaps while those that do not pose any danger will be enhanced further,” he said.

    The 38 U-turn slots were placed by the MMDA along C-5 Road, EDSA, Quezon Avenue, and Commonwealth Avenue.
    Last edited by shadow; December 13th, 2009 at 09:02 AM.

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    Read a similar article on the Manila Bulletin yesterday.

    Inocentes claims to "know how motorists feel". We'll see in the next few months if that is a load of bull.

    Hopefully some of the useless jeepney "terminals" (like the one across UP-Ayala technohub) would be cleared to compansate for the lost lanes from the u-turn slots.

    EDIT: just passed by the said u-turn slot earlier. mukhang "misplaced" na yung isang concrete barrier. I wonder why...
    Last edited by scharnhorst; December 13th, 2009 at 10:17 AM.

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    They want to decongest Manila? Easy! Go after PUV's and their stupid illegal terminals.

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    ok here's one more. I've driving for one week in c5 southbound and everyday there is this bottleneck from j. Vargas up to kalayaan. Akala ko ba wala ng traffic because of the elevated u-turn slot ni BF. BTW, pati sa northbound ganun din. less than 2kms 30mins ang travel time. Syang talaga ang pera natin sa flyover na yun. Nasan naba yun smart traffic system of years ago where you have sensors before the intersections....buti nalang vp lang hinahabol niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jave View Post
    They want to decongest Manila? Easy! Go after PUV's and their stupid illegal terminals.
    also those who drive aggressively

    Quote Originally Posted by afrasay View Post
    ok here's one more. I've driving for one week in c5 southbound and everyday there is this bottleneck from j. Vargas up to kalayaan. Akala ko ba wala ng traffic because of the elevated u-turn slot ni BF. BTW, pati sa northbound ganun din. less than 2kms 30mins ang travel time. Syang talaga ang pera natin sa flyover na yun. Nasan naba yun smart traffic system of years ago where you have sensors before the intersections....buti nalang vp lang hinahabol niya.
    wag na botohin yan, lalo na mga iba pang alam niyo corrupt officers.

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    On some friday rush hour nights, I drive from manila to quezon city.

    Can't help but compare Espanya and Q. ave during those times.

    Yes, both are congested, but with stoplight-heavy Espanya, you stay in your lane, you eventually get there. Let the buses and jeeps and AUVs duel it out in the inner 2 lanes.

    In Quezon avenue, it's a neverending barrage of gitgitan, bullying, merging, and swerving - especially when the road narrows for the U-turn slot. It's only smooth flowing when there's light traffic.

    I have no love for either, but I especially despise the system in Quezon avenue.

    The problem with u-turn slots is they're only effective if the road is wide enough... but even in commonwealth, the MMDA squanders lanes by making these useless jeepney terminals across the u-turn slots. Walang silbe e. for example the one across technohub - I've yet to see a jeep stop and drop off passengers there. And if they do? Why the person has to run the gauntlet of automobiles to get to the other side!

    kabobohan talaga.

    the last time I checked, the said U-turn slot still is "open" on the recieving side, but still "closed" on the outgoing end. stupid. stupid. stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    On some friday rush hour nights, I drive from manila to quezon city.

    Can't help but compare Espanya and Q. ave during those times.

    Yes, both are congested, but with stoplight-heavy Espanya, you stay in your lane, you eventually get there. Let the buses and jeeps and AUVs duel it out in the inner 2 lanes.

    In Quezon avenue, it's a neverending barrage of gitgitan, bullying, merging, and swerving - especially when the road narrows for the U-turn slot. It's only smooth flowing when there's light traffic.

    I have no love for either, but I especially despise the system in Quezon avenue.
    i agree w/ you in that sentiment sir.. ako din, na-stress ako pagdating ko sa quezon ave. been a long time na di ako napadaan dyan, college days ko pa ang last. nagulat na lang ako may mga U-turn barriers na pala.. ang hirap sa di sanay dumaan dyan.. nabubulaga na lang ako bigla.. gabi pa man din noon. ang hirap naman sa bandang right dami jeep.. sometimes bus.. once in a while humihinto. ... kapagod talaga!

    re dyan sa c5-kalayaan elevated u-turn? IMO, walang silbi. super traffic pa din. bagay lang yan sa malalapad talaga na hi-way. better siguro kung fly-over na lang. tinipid siguro kaya elevated u-turn na lang... mahal daw kasi fly-over... haayyz..

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    Additional two choke points along Quezon Avenue... one crossing Banawe, and the other under the overpass under some church. PUJ's and buses loading/unloading chaos in-between U-turn slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrasay View Post
    ok here's one more. I've driving for one week in c5 southbound and everyday there is this bottleneck from j. Vargas up to kalayaan. Akala ko ba wala ng traffic because of the elevated u-turn slot ni BF. BTW, pati sa northbound ganun din. less than 2kms 30mins ang travel time. Syang talaga ang pera natin sa flyover na yun.
    yup poor design yung elevated u turn... kung mag uturn ka ok... pero sobrang hassle sa mga dadaan sa baba (which is the majority)... biruin mo mag snake/swerve yung sa baba dahil sa mga pillars... you have to slow down, to around maybe 20kph specially kung may katabi kang vehicle... san dun ang essence ng better traffic flow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner View Post
    Additional two choke points along Quezon Avenue... one crossing Banawe, and the other under the overpass under some church. PUJ's and buses loading/unloading chaos in-between U-turn slots.
    One of the worst chokepoints is the U-turn slot bago pumasok ng dating welcome rotonda.

    Re: traffic sa C5: haha. hanggang tiendesitas parin ang traffic usually!

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    Hindi ko alam bakit sobra naman ang pagkaka widening ng Uturn Slot sa elipitical, cause tuloy ng traffic, kung elevated u turn Slots Ginawa doon like in C5, mas maganda at prone to accident. Mahal nga pero very effective. Like on Uturn slots with a super super "visible" paint of white and black islands color lalo na sa gabi, sure na pag bumangga ka, uturn talaga kotse mo. Wala lang man reflectors or early warning na my island sa daan. while im passing by last last week, my rumampa na doon na Mitsubishi '08 model na black. Pag naman kasi mabagal ka sa daan, baka hindi ka nga bumangga, ikaw naman mabangga.

    Kaya ba hindi malagyan ng reflector kasi:

    hints: Fernando wants a new Cadillac Escalade or Inocentes want a new Toyota Sequoia 2010 model. lets see. kabwiset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    On some friday rush hour nights, I drive from manila to quezon city.

    Can't help but compare Espanya and Q. ave during those times.

    Yes, both are congested, but with stoplight-heavy Espanya, you stay in your lane, you eventually get there. Let the buses and jeeps and AUVs duel it out in the inner 2 lanes.

    In Quezon avenue, it's a neverending barrage of gitgitan, bullying, merging, and swerving - especially when the road narrows for the U-turn slot. It's only smooth flowing when there's light traffic.

    I have no love for either, but I especially despise the system in Quezon avenue.

    The problem with u-turn slots is they're only effective if the road is wide enough... but even in commonwealth, the MMDA squanders lanes by making these useless jeepney terminals across the u-turn slots. Walang silbe e. for example the one across technohub - I've yet to see a jeep stop and drop off passengers there. And if they do? Why the person has to run the gauntlet of automobiles to get to the other side!

    kabobohan talaga.

    the last time I checked, the said U-turn slot still is "open" on the recieving side, but still "closed" on the outgoing end. stupid. stupid. stupid.
    Nakaka stress nga sa Quezon Ave. kaya when I pick up my wife from work sa Welcome sa E. Rodriguez kami dumadaan to Cubao and to Marikina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    Hindi ko alam bakit sobra naman ang pagkaka widening ng Uturn Slot sa elipitical, cause tuloy ng traffic, kung elevated u turn Slots Ginawa doon like in C5, mas maganda at prone to accident. Mahal nga pero very effective. Like on Uturn slots with a super super "visible" paint of white and black islands color lalo na sa gabi, sure na pag bumangga ka, uturn talaga kotse mo. Wala lang man reflectors or early warning na my island sa daan. while im passing by last last week, my rumampa na doon na Mitsubishi '08 model na black. Pag naman kasi mabagal ka sa daan, baka hindi ka nga bumangga, ikaw naman mabangga.

    Kaya ba hindi malagyan ng reflector kasi:

    hints: Fernando wants a new Cadillac Escalade or Inocentes want a new Toyota Sequoia 2010 model. lets see. kabwiset.

    Iyan na nga ba ang takot ko,- mahirap makita kung saan nagsisimula ang dividing island sa gitna ng malapad at high speed na kalye ng Commonwealth... Kaya may peligrong rumampa ka....

    9100:thatsit:

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    The MMDA castrated commonwealth's width. crap.

    There are U turn slots sa center Island na SOBRANG laki. sa kabilang side nagkalat ang mga walang silbeng "Jeepney Terminals"

    And there's the inherent danger of slamming into footbridges if you take the rightmost lanes

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharnhorst View Post
    The MMDA castrated commonwealth's width. crap.

    There are U turn slots sa center Island na SOBRANG laki. sa kabilang side nagkalat ang mga walang silbeng "Jeepney Terminals"

    And there's the inherent danger of slamming into footbridges if you take the rightmost lanes
    Kahapon( Jan. 4 2010) with the morning radio program of Ted Failon w/ pinky webb if im not mistaken, ininterview nila si MMDA Chairman Inocentes about the super lapad na unreflectorized Uturn Slot and PUV terminals in front of UP Ayala Technohub, Ted asked why ganoon kalapad at halos sakupin na ang kalaparan ng commonwealth ng Uturn slot, alam niyo po ba ang sagot ng New MMDA Chairman Inocentes: "Ahh, ehh, ahh, ano yon?, sige ted, titignan ko nalan". Sana bigyan aksyon ito pati na rin ang nasa gitna na Overpass. I just want to help other motorist na ma prevent na sana ang pagrampa sa mga invisible blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joseph20 View Post
    Kahapon( Jan. 4 2010) with the morning radio program of Ted Failon w/ pinky webb if im not mistaken, ininterview nila si MMDA Chairman Inocentes about the super lapad na unreflectorized Uturn Slot and PUV terminals in front of UP Ayala Technohub, Ted asked why ganoon kalapad at halos sakupin na ang kalaparan ng commonwealth ng Uturn slot, alam niyo po ba ang sagot ng New MMDA Chairman Inocentes: "Ahh, ehh, ahh, ano yon?, sige ted, titignan ko nalan". Sana bigyan aksyon ito pati na rin ang nasa gitna na Overpass. I just want to help other motorist na ma prevent na sana ang pagrampa sa mga invisible blocks.
    The huge U-turn slots are there to accomodate the trucks that use them. but I rarely see trucks use the slots near ever gotesco commonwealth, or the one near central.

    what exacerbates the problem are the useless jeepney terminals.

    With that statement, this new MMDA chairman seems to be no better than his predecessor

    and yes, those overpasses (which jeeps and buses clog) are menaces. lalo na yung sa central!
    Last edited by scharnhorst; January 6th, 2010 at 07:49 AM.

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    Hanep sa sagot iyang si Inocentes,- bagay sa kanyang apelyido....(Very prominent naman kasi ang issue ng U-turn slot sa Commonwealth).... :hysterical:

    9101:thatsit:

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    ang importante doon sa mga sagot ng bagong MMDA chairman during that interview eh yun mga foot bridges eh overprice lahat meon daw silang inaugurate na maliit na foot bridges sa C3, and it cost P27M, kaya on hold muna mga contracts sa mga foot bridges since meron pang 50 contracts iniwan si BF, then he was implying that si BF din mismo ang mga suppliers and another thing and dami daw iniwan utang ni BF sa MMDA, kaya wala na siyang ginagawa kundi pumirma ng cheques until 10 PM.

    lalabas na nagpayaman talaga si BF sa MMDA.

    he told Ted na siya na mismo ang pumunta sa MMDA at siya na mismo ang mag check ng mga documents para siya mismo makakita kung sino ang suppliers ng bakal sa MMDA.

    ngayon tumatakbo pang VP...pakapalan na talaga ng mukha.

    lumalabas na maraming na kuhang pera si BF...kaya mga ass polishers ni BF, isip-isip muna....

    at least itong bagong MMDA chairman, nakikinig sa suggestion ng ibang tao..unlike yun predecessor niya na feeling God's gift to mankind.

    eh ano naman kung hinde niya alam kung saan yun U turn sa commonwealth? ang dapat na tanong kung bakit meron U turn doon in the first place.

    meron na rin siyang inalis na mga pink fences sa EDSA and it improve the traffic flows tremendously...
    Last edited by shadow; January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    meron na rin siyang inalis na mga pink fences sa EDSA and it improve the traffic flows tremendously...
    I agree to this. EDSA traffic seems to have lightened up somewhat; Let's see if this will keep up in the next few weeks. Now they should concentrate their enforcers in managing those friggin buses.

    They should also light up the u-turn slots well at night (as in put in flood lights). I also saw one u-turn in Libis with a large sign overhead (on top of the lane) prominently displayed an this helps a lot in visbility as well.

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