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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Judging from the video. Mukhang di naman mabilis takbo nung naka volvo.
    Yun babae naman feeling vindicated lang kaya ganun mag react, at ganun lang siguro sya ka enthusiastic kasi nga naman 5x ka ba naman mahuli ng speeding, ako man mabwiset din.
    oh well. Maybe that's why I am siding with SLEX. I can't stand the woman talking in the video, I feel sympathy for the traffic enforcers tuloy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Is he the most unlucky person then? I'm from Laguna and drive SLEX regularly. I go beyond 100 kph and cruise at that speed too like most cars. I can't fathom how anyone would be caught speeding 5x in a month cruising at 100 kph.
    It's quite possible that the speeding guys already know the car. With a mouth like that for a wife, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mates boys don't like the couple. With the way he hogs the leftmost lane, it's quite easy to spot him, especially with a Volvo.

    I find this more likely than having a Volvo with a speedo that's 30 kph off.

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    #63
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    oh well. Maybe that's why I am siding with SLEX. I can't stand the woman talking in the video, I feel sympathy for the traffic enforcers tuloy.
    Precisely. If the guy was a nice talker you probably won't have that view. Eh ang kaso, dito sa tsikot mas una pang pinansin yung bungangerang babae kaysa sa real issue.

    Kahit nakakabwiset yung babae, that doesn't give you the right to flag them down for speeding if they really weren't.

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    #64
    He was caught overspeeding five times in one month, using two different cars, both cars always on cruise control. What are the chances both cars' speedometers are giving wrong readings? Sobrang malas naman niya, 2 tsikot niya parehong dispalinghado ang speedometer.

    I think SLEX officials need to investigate this and get to the bottom pronto. Sa tingin ko sila ang may mali sa kasong ito.

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    #65
    mukhang laser na camera nila based sa pinakita sa news. from what i read before posible din mag error yan pag mali gamit even if calibrated yung gun, ie operator error. and about naman sa choice ng targets ng enforcers, dati ko pa naririnig na they do discriminate against sports and luxury vehicles, maybe they think those cars will likely overspeed. redflag kaagad kaya for instance as between incoming volvo and innova, volvo babarilin nila. im not saying the foregoing happened here kasi nakakapagtaka din na wala pa ibang nag rereklamo kung slex may mali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Judging from the video. Mukhang di naman mabilis takbo nung naka volvo.
    Yun babae naman feeling vindicated lang kaya ganun mag react, at ganun lang siguro sya ka enthusiastic kasi nga naman 5x ka ba naman mahuli ng speeding, ako man mabwiset din.
    1+ agree. people react differently from the same stimulus. the wife couldn't contain her emotion and was obviously agitated; under the circumstances they were in (if true), her reaction
    was understandable; the husband was somewhat detached and was taking it matter-of-factly. in his interview, he did not ascribe any wrongdoing to anybody but attributed it to the speed gun. Manila Toll Expressway Systems, Inc. (MATES) could not just brush this aside as a non-issue because their equipment is new, and, hence, foolproof. that is a leap of faith. MATES might be a private corporation, but because it engages in public service, it is a quasi - public corporation; thus, it is accountable to the public it serves. it must serve the people with utmost responsibility, integrity, loyalty, and efficiency. and, this accountability includes, it goes without saying, considering that its equipment is now being questioned, the proper and regular calibration of its equipment and periodic training of its employees who operate them. in other words, the burden is on its shoulders to show compliance of all these things, and not on the motoring public.

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    #67
    i searched yung model ng lidar ng slex based sa pinakita sa news and found this likely match. Laser Technology - TruCAM Laser Speed Gun with Video

    very advanced. nakakapagtaka din na wala nilabas na evidence sa public yung slex given the recording ability of the camera. baka fake china copy lol

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    #69
    Lol SLEX is avoiding so I think mag magic muna sila bago nila ipakita sa public yan speed gun in action in public haha

    Btw di tapos un article o un blog haha wala pa un results

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    #70
    The contention some people are making online (that Caltex to Calamba is 15k and the car was actually going 130 km/h) is absolutely ridiculous.

    I've driven on that road for twenty years, and have GPS'd it... the distance is about 9 km. And the couple in the Volvo are in the right... the SLEX speed trap is wrong.

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    No, the gun isn't defective... but they're likely not using it correctly. Hand-aiming the gun without stabilizing it is bound to give erroneous readings. Even swinging it quickly to pick a target can give poor readings.

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    That's why the expressways should ditch speed traps. Base everything on time-distance measurement.

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    The contention some people are making online (that Caltex to Calamba is 15k and the car was actually going 130 km/h) is absolutely ridiculous.

    I've driven on that road for twenty years, and have GPS'd it... the distance is about 9 km. And the couple in the Volvo are in the right... the SLEX speed trap is wrong.

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    No, the gun isn't defective... but they're likely not using it correctly. Hand-aiming the gun without stabilizing it is bound to give erroneous readings. Even swinging it quickly to pick a target can give poor readings.

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    That's why the expressways should ditch speed traps. Base everything on time-distance measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    1+ agree. people react differently from the same stimulus. the wife couldn't contain her emotion and was obviously agitated; under the circumstances they were in (if true), her reaction
    was understandable;
    I don't understand the wife. No circumstance ever justifies that reaction She should let the husband handle the situation and do the talking and give support only when needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    No, the gun isn't defective... but they're likely not using it correctly. Hand-aiming the gun without stabilizing it is bound to give erroneous readings. Even swinging it quickly to pick a target can give poor readings. .
    This is the most logical explanation for me.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; May 24th, 2015 at 03:18 PM.

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    #72
    After watching the video again, a question comes to mind. We all want to follow the speed limit but, what if the speedometers of our cars are not really accurate? If the instrument we all trust to give us an accurate reading is defective, should we be blaming those guys?

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    ^kaya nga meron +/- 5-10 kph yata for allowance.

    They aimed the gun at the wife's mouth kaya taas ng reading. [emoji23].

    Tama si cath. The wife should just left the talking to her husband. Hinde Naman siya ang driver eh.

    Kung ako yun enforcer I won't even talk to the wife or listen to any of her words. She's not the driver.

    Bwisit yan ganyan hinde naman driver siya pa mas madaldal. Parang mga usisero Lang Sa kalsada mas marami pa sinasabi kesa Doon Sa involve talaga.

    The question is bakit Sa kanila Lang Ang overspending reading ng Slex gun? To think nahuli Sa sila several times.
    Last edited by shadow; May 24th, 2015 at 04:13 PM.

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    #74
    A little bit OT mga boss, ano ang magandang android app para ma check ang speed via gps. Wala akong on board gps eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    After watching the video again, a question comes to mind. We all want to follow the speed limit but, what if the speedometers of our cars are not really accurate? If the instrument we all trust to give us an accurate reading is defective, should we be blaming those guys?
    All factory speedometers read between 5-10% faster than your actual speed.

    This is specifically to prevent people from overspeeding, and to prevent lawsuits from people getting speeding tickets who will try to put the blame on a defective speedometer.

    Very few cars have a speedometer that is properly calibrated. They used to do it for police cars in the US. Not sure if they still do.

    The only time a speedometer will read too slow is if you have much bigger tires on than the factory tires.

    Quote Originally Posted by maki mi View Post
    A little bit OT mga boss, ano ang magandang android app para ma check ang speed via gps. Wala akong on board gps eh
    I use Ulysses. Terrific interface, great display... easy to set up.

    Do note that Android apps are limited by your phone's on-board GPS, which only updates once a second... but that's enough if you only want to know your average speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    After watching the video again, a question comes to mind. We all want to follow the speed limit but, what if the speedometers of our cars are not really accurate? If the instrument we all trust to give us an accurate reading is defective, should we be blaming those guys?
    that's a very good question. but we ask ourselves, what are the speed gun and the confiscation of DL are for? EFFECTIVE DETERRENCE. that is SLEX Management primary, if not foremost, responsibility. it's their job to deter overspeeding and imprudent drivers who pose imminent danger to the driving public to be a disaster waiting to happen. now, for example, here is this guy (not mr. gonzales) who has been flagged down several times but has toed the line everytime he passed by SLEX, this will give the management pause to ask why the speed gun and the consequent confiscation of his DL are not effective deterrent to him anymore (rather than act like robots)? in law enforcement, if the law ceases to prevent criminals from committing their wares, you need to know why and later ask for its amendment.
    what happened in the Gonzales couple was they took the initiative. they took matters into their own hands and made their own investigation why.
    it's SLEX's job to do the investigating, and we even pay them to do that. if our speedometers are defective, then, warn us. these things are not new to them-- they're in business of running toll ways for quite some time.
    for that, i blame them.

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I don't understand the wife. No circumstance ever justifies that reaction She should let the husband handle the situation and do the talking and give support only when needed.
    i remember Atticus Finch in To kill a mockingbird: "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view... Until you climb inside of his skin and walk around in it." 😐

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    Thanks for the reply Sir Niky, so Ulysses won't act like a speedometer? My car has onboard average speed display option just wanna countercheck sana with gps. Anyway I feel assured already by your statement that "All factory speedometers read between 5-10% faster than your actual speed."

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    #79
    Dami pa kung anu anong excuses ang mga engot sa SLEX ayaw mag participate para magkaalaman na. Halatang may tinatago.

    Yung volvo owner todo coooeration. Obvious talaga sino may mali dito. Hoy SLEX gising! Huwag niyo kami gatasan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    After watching the video again, a question comes to mind. We all want to follow the speed limit but, what if the speedometers of our cars are not really accurate? If the instrument we all trust to give us an accurate reading is defective, should we be blaming those guys?
    Do you know how we determined the accuracy of our speedometers in each everyone's car (different make). A simple method we always do. Drive and run in a convoy with only one takes the lead of the speed. The leader may run and maintain speed at 80kph and will not exceed. As we drove in convoy, ( in an expressway ) we glance and look at our speedometer points at that very same speed mark (80kph). It's fun, as we do it every year in a family field trip, or summer outing.

    Let say 6 vehicles with different car makes, we all run at a speed of 80kph. All 5 vehicle match in each speedometer gauge, while the remaining 1, his gauge reads at 65kph while we are all running at the same speed. That means his speedometer gauge is out of specs calibration or faulty.

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