I am subject to criminal arrest [my second encounter with this particular station]

[OTEP]

Last Friday morning (around 1am) we finished an o.r. (which started 5pm of Thursday). My boss decided to treat us (there were 4 of us) to dinner in Binondo.

Upon reaching the Quaipo bridge. There is a checkpoint. But this one is different. They are stopping all vehicles asking them to open doors and see the license of the drivers. The policemen were all wearing their blue collared t-shirts with no form of visible identification. There was a checkpoint sign.

When I handed my license, the policeman noted that it had expired. Stupid me, it was my PRC ID that didn't need renewal yet and I forgot to renew this one. So I apologized, told him that we had just finished a very long O.R. and I'll just have someone else relieve me from the driver's seat. And if need be, just give me a ticket.

But the policeman claimed that driving with an expired license is the same as driving without a license. Is this true? From my point of view, if my license expired (Professional with restriction 236) then I still held a license whose validity has just lapsed. As opposed to someone who has never attempted nor qualified for a license.

On top of that the policeman wanted to arrest me on the spot! He claimed that I am subject to criminal arrest because my license has expired.

And he then proceeded to insinuate that we had firearms on board the vehicle! Where the hell did that come from?

My boss tried to talk to the apprehending officer but the officer insisted that I be arrested.

Quite tired from the o.r. and the 'negotiations' that were happening, my boss simply introduced himself (he is an ally of the current city administration).

Needless to say the cop backed off immediately (lest he wants to lose his job).

I already got my license renewed this morning.

Ganun ba talaga? They will not issue you a ticket or citation if you happen to have an expired license? They will just arrest you on the spot? I know I had a violation, I'm just clarifying if what the cops were doing were correct.

Btw, this is the same police station that last year tried to 'store' the recovered cellphone that was stolen from a co-worker of mine. They tried to claim it as 'evidence' and that it has to stay with them for the duration of the case. I had to make some quick calls to Crame before they released the phone. In as much as I don't like to throw any weight around, sometimes you have to assert yourself to these kind of policemen.

[crazy_boy]

doc, obviously the cop was trying to "earn money". did you introduce yourself as a doctor?


based on LTO website:


Driving without License 1,500.00
Driving without delinquent of expired license 400.00
Failure to carry Driver’s License 200.00


The Land Transportation Office of the Philippines

[impulzz]

sad to say majority of the police and traffic enforcers don't know the difference between the above mentioned offenses. all they know is how to milk money.

[Ry_Tower]

sad to say majority of the police and traffic enforcers don't know the difference between the above mentioned offenses. all they know is how to milk money.

Sad, but true!

* Doc Otep driving without a license is different from driving with an expired license. Next time just use the "whom you know" phenomenon, yan lang alam nila eh. Obviously gusto kayo perahan. Kakainis ano. :twak:

[CoDer]

Criminal Arrest for a expired license!

Sarap turuan ng leksyon yang mga yan.

[OTEP]

Yep, we kinda sensed early on that they were conducting the checkpoint more as a 'business' than a public service. But we were trying to be low key that's why we were not being too upfront about why he should not mess with us.

No offense meant, but you really know when the cop you're talking to is just after what's in your wallet. It's so blatantly freaking obvious.

In other news, yung pasyente naming bata na pulis ang tatay AYAW MAGBAYAD NG TATAY SA P.F. NG DOCTOR AT MATERIALS NA GINAMIT SA OPERA NIYA! Tignan mo nga naman. Kaya minsan wala din akong magandang masabi sa kapulisan, eh.

[crazy_boy]

kaya mas matatakot pa mga tao pag nakikita nila ang pulis. im not generalizing but we have to admit that majority of the police personnel are not the best people.

[111prez]

i would have been good to get all their names and the report them to PNP internal affairs/anti corruption unit

first time i heard of driving with an expired license being a criminal offense

was a special law passed on this?

[OTEP]

Yep. Hindsight is 20/20. We were all so tired from surgery so I guess that's why we forgot about the part of getting their names.

Plus they weren't in the usual uniform. Just the new light blue shirt with no identification on it.

They already got a call from the Directorate for Intelligence when they messed with me and did not want to return the cellphone of my co-doctor. Siguro nga if may strike 3 ito, they're not gonna get off so easily.

[niwde11]

In other news, yung pasyente naming bata na pulis ang tatay AYAW MAGBAYAD NG TATAY SA P.F. NG DOCTOR AT MATERIALS NA GINAMIT SA OPERA NIYA! Tignan mo nga naman. Kaya minsan wala din akong magandang masabi sa kapulisan, eh.

hehehehe minsan napunta ko birthday ng pulis. medyo mataas ang rango at me kasama retired na. coming from the retired policeman, "ang pulis ayaw magbayad hangat maari". the bday policeman nods.:D

[OTEP]

Oo nga eh. Dapat ata surplus na piyesa na lang kinabit ko dun sa anak niya. Biruin mo yung pasyente namin sa charity ward who had a similar operation eh mas nauna pang magbayad! (doctor at kuwarto lang walang bayad sa amin, yung materials po meron).

Nakakahiya talaga.

[badsekktor]

pansin ko lang doc, medyo bastos nga yun mga pulis dyan sa checkpoint sa binondo. I had an encounter with them once.... di ko lang nabasa mga nameplate nila.... yun mokong na bastos eh mababa lang pala ang ranggo ang siga-siga umasta.... buti na lang humingi ng pasensya yun chief nila.....

yun friend ko na fil-chi, galing ng xmas party sa company nila.... pinipilit hulihin dahil 4 daw sila na lalaki sa kotse? wtf! ganun kababaw! in the end hiningi yun mga natirang giveaway nila na mga kamiso chino....

[niwde11]

pag me meeting sa MOA nagtataka mga kameeting ko at bakit ikot pa ko edsa going to Valenzuela. samantalang pwede naman daw ako roxas(manila-caloocan-malabon-val). sabi ko i hate the "roads" dun pag gabi. umaga pwede pa.

[thejerk]

yun friend ko na fil-chi, galing ng xmas party sa company nila.... pinipilit hulihin dahil 4 daw sila na lalaki sa kotse? wtf! ganun kababaw! in the end hiningi yun mga natirang giveaway nila na mga kamiso chino....

anong klaseng offense yun?? lantaran na yan ah! dapat imbestigahan na yang checkpoint na yan. harassment na yan sa civilians.

[sm2by]

I had a similar experience also at that place. I was stopped behind an Innova at the traffic light when traffic began moving on the green light. Just right after the intersection this Police Officer on a Motorcycle cut me suddenly and signaled me to pullover.
I pulled off just infront of Quiapo Wet Market he went off his bike and told me that I was beating a "Red Light".
All I thought was WTF!? it was clearly green and lots of other cars were crossing the intersection with me...
I told him "Bakit, eh nakita niyo naman na green yung light may sinusundan pa ako na Innova bakit di mo rin siya pinigil?"
He just had a blank expression and asked me to hand over my license... I grabbed it from my wallet and handed it to him..
I made it my point to let him also see the "Calling Card" of a certain powerful official from the PNP which is also placed inside the card holder with my driver's license... When he saw it his face went cold and just said; "Sorry sir, ingat nalang kayo mag drive, salamat po..." gave back my license and went back to his bike...

I find that situation to be really weird and uncalled for but I'm happy that he just went off with his tail between his legs....

[leonleon]

Ang MPD talaga, di na natuto. Notorious talaga mga checkpoints and mobile groups nila. That's why I hate Manila at night. This embarrasment of a police force only fear their own kind, or people who are more powerful than they are.

Remember police officer Rolando Mendoza of Aug. 23 2010 - Manila Hostage Taking fame? Kaya nga nasibak yan sa MPD eh dahil sa hulidap/ pangongotong, tapos eto ngayon ang mga taga MPD tuloy ang ligaya / dating gawi, na parang walang natutunan sa insidenteng iyon. Hopeless talaga.

[renzo_d10]

On some cases, you should really use whom-i-know powers just to shrug crocodiles off of your shoulder.

[impulzz]

paano kung wala kang kilala na mataas??? di naman kayang tawagan agad ang Tulfo Bros.

[renzo_d10]

paano kung wala kang kilala na mataas??? di naman kayang tawagan agad ang Tulfo Bros.

Wala. You just have to " pay off the price " ;)

[Monseratto]

Tapos tinatagol pa ni Mayor Lim mga ganitong bulok ng lipunan. Tama ang tingin ng mga taga HK sa pulis maynila, mga walang kwenta...