ingat sa mga military trucks

[lmp]

share ko lang po yong experience namin kahapon. pag may nakita na kayo na mga military trucks try to keep your distance na

pauwi na kami galing pangasinan kahapon bago mag 3 pm & we were about 3 kms from balintawak toll plaza ng maabutan namin convoy ng mga sundalo there were about 20 or so military trucks na puno ng sundalo. naglokohan pa nga kami ng husband ko na me coup na naman ba kasi nga ang dami nila & yong iba naka-display pa yong mga m16 nila. behaved pa sila magpatakbo they were all in one lane lang. nalampasan na naman sila then when we were already in the munoz area malapit don sa me u-turn slot me narinig na kaming wang-wang sila na pala yon & me escorts na sila dito na nagsimula yong paekis-ekis na sila ng takbo tapos ang bibilis pa. me isang starex na pupunta sa right side nauna na sya don e bago pa man dumating itong mga wang-wang dinuro-duro sya ng isa sa escort na kotse na nagpaiwan na while the trucks were speeding past us. tuloy lang kami ng takbo kasi andon kami sa innermost lane dahil magu-u turn kami sa me sm north tapos sila don naglulusutan 2 lanes from us. nong malapit na kami sa u-turn slot sa sm north bigla nagcut sa amin ung truck bigla kabig husband ko sadsad na kami sa gutter tapos meron pa pala isa nakita ko na katabi ko na yong gulong so pumikit na lang ako expecting na babanggain na kami dahil di na kami makakaiwas dahil nakasadsad na nga kami sa gutter luckily di naman kami nabangga. ang sabi ng husband ko tsaka yong kasunod namin na sasakyan bigla nga daw kumabig sa kanan almost hitting naman another vehicle. gusto ng husband ko habulin & mag-reklamo sabi ko pabayaan na lang dahil wala rin mangyayari. kasi me experience na rin kami company vehicle naman nabangga ng military truck din tinuro-turo kami kung saan-saan kampo sa laguna, sa aguinaldo sa fort bonifacio di na lang namin pinursue pinasagot na lang sa insurance.

so aside from gasgas na rim yuping stepboard & pagpawisan ng malamig ok naman na kami. pero ayoko muna mag-drive pupunta pa naman sana ako big berts sa wed next week na lang husband ko na lang magdala takot akong mag-drive mag-isa.

[CLAVEL3699]

Sorry to hear that.

May previous thread dati with your similar incident.

Kaso ang problema may batas daw na hindi babayaran nang Military ang gastusin at pwede pa daw sila idemanda kasi you can be a treat to them.

My 2 cent.

[khayib]

That's where our taxes go!

For me, I just pray....... na kunin na sila ni Lord.

and dump them somewhere else.....you know where....

[tagalnasaabroad]

soorry din ho..sa pilipinas kasi nag-ugat 'yang mga asal aso ng mga militar nong panahon ng martial law..so hindi na natanggal sa mga utak lamok nila ang ganyang pasasa sa kapangyarihan dahil na-baby na ng husto don sa mga adventurism nilang mga coupdetat dito't don..

ilang ex-general ng napunta sa congreso pero ni hindi man lang nakapagpasa ng mga bills targeting-in on these kind of arrogant & undisciplined men in uniforms..mga pulis patola..kutong cops..hulidaps..copnappers..etc.

gumising kayo jann..!

[baiskee]

kakagigil talaga yang mga abusado sa gobyerno. :mad:

[wreckless]

anong branch of service po yun?
i guess may military peeps dito sa tsikot who might be able to assist you kahit pano..
at least makarating man lang sa inuukulan kung sino yung gagong driver na 'yun.
i believe no matter what the emergency or urgency is..dapat yung safety pa rin sa daan yung iisipin nung driver na yun..

wag ko sana silang makasagupa..
they might lose their job! :mad: ..

or better yet..i'll get hold of their salaries..
at sisiguraduhin kong di nila makukuha suweldo or benefits nila.
bwahahahaha
*joke lang po*

[quindoyos]

Originally posted by tagalnasaabroad
soorry din ho..sa pilipinas kasi nag-ugat 'yang mga asal aso ng mga militar nong panahon ng martial law..so hindi na natanggal sa mga utak lamok nila ang ganyang pasasa sa kapangyarihan dahil na-baby na ng husto don sa mga adventurism nilang mga coupdetat dito't don..

ilang ex-general ng napunta sa congreso pero ni hindi man lang nakapagpasa ng mga bills targeting-in on these kind of arrogant & undisciplined men in uniforms..mga pulis patola..kutong cops..hulidaps..copnappers..etc.

gumising kayo jann..!

sir tagalnasaabroad,

with all due respect, how long have you really been abroad? kung matagal ka na talaga, kaya pala siguro di mo na napapansin mga pagbabago.

asal aso? utak lamok? i dont think so bro.

lets not lambast anyone and generalize everyone in the military. for your information sir, marami pa ring men in uniform who uphold what the uniform stands for.

in the military, there is a built in discipline, law and order office in every organization they have. if you have any complaints against the military, you can either submit a letter to the provost marshall general sa camp aguinaldo and i'm sure they'll take appropriate action on your letter.

sir AtongK, what can you say?

[lmp]

wreckless nong madaanan namin sila sa expressway meron truck na marines meron din paf di lang namin alam kung yong marines ba o paf yong 2 trucks na nag-cut sa amin maski nga plate # di na rin namin nakuha kaya sabi ko nga sa asawa ko pabayaan na lang.

kung me makakatulong sa amin mas maganda it will be very much appreciated pero ok lang kung wala di naman na kami talaga maghahabol na. shinare ko lang to serve as warning to others.

tagalnasaabroad me naging presidente na nga tayo na galing military e ala rin naman nangyari plus sa mga alipores ni gma ngayon dami ring from pnp/afp. ingrained na siguro sa kanila yon o kaya don na lang sila bumabawi sa liit ng mga suweldo & benefits nila sa pagiging abusado. in fairness din naman di namn lahat from afp & pnp bugok e meron din naman matitino yon nga lang outnumbered pa rin sila.

[jim]

I don't think it's right to generalize. There are a lot of military men who are honorable. I grew up in a family where almost all are connected to the AFP. I was also connected to the military but chose the civilian life pero I missed military discipline.

The only thing I can say is that whenever there are military convoys just keep your distance. You will never know kung anong mission nila at baka maging sagabal pa tayo or tayo pa ang maging cause ng delay. Pag ambulance ba yung muntik nang makabangga sa yo would you curse the ambulance driver??? Same thing with the military truck di ba???

I'm glad ma'am lmp and her husband just kept their cool kasi kung hinabol pa nila yung military truck the worst might have happened. On the other hand mas marami pa ngang truck drivers dyan na mas loko di ba???

[Kicker15]

ma'am for me since wala din naman major damage sa vehicle nyo pabayaan nyo na lang. mas malaking sakit sa ulo yan kung hinabol nyo pa and mas malaki pa magagastos nyo kesa paayos nyo sa kanila. Baka balikan pa kayo nyan, mas mahirap yun.

[atongk]

to all those who feel they had been violated / abused by military personnel, file a complaint to any camps Provost Marshall we are very sure your complaints will be entertained and due action to any erring individual will be taken cared of.

let us not be one sided na nagkamali lang ang iba na generalize na buong military, they may be abusive drivers and the right way to discipline them is file a report to their authorities .

as for the ex-generals who were in the congress / senate . They were appointed generals not by the military, nope sir , Commission on Appointments po ang nagpo promote sa kanila and mostly ang members noon ay ang ang mga ibinoto ng mga tao. And then napapunta sila sa senate/ congress, sino ba ang bumoto sa kanila???

sir khayib, you were saying about taxes . . . implying sa sweldo ng military ang taxes na ibinabayad natin, please be informed that , a private in the AFP recieves a meager 6T pesos a month only, 6T pesos divide by the number of persons paying taxes. That is your share in his monthly income, magkano 5 cents ba ?

these persons offered their lives just to serve our countrymen.

sirs / ma'am, with all due respect, let us not generalize. report the abusers and not just lambast the military organization.

Help us in removing the scalawags or rotten soldiers, report abuses . . .

[quindoyos]

sir atongk,

saludo ako sa iyo.

couldn't have said it any better!

[tagalnasaabroad]

mga sirs..my comments do not generalized the men & women in uniforms who are there to uphold, serve & honor the ultimate welfare of this country..i, for one have relations in the higher-ups of the military establishment..my father served & fight for the country during the 2nd world war as a lieutenant..

these idealisms surely can make our country stand proud and demonstrate to the whole world we do have a sane, sober & disciplined military organization..

let's all join our hands, stand shoulder to shoulder to keep these dreams a reality..for me, nowhere are we half-way from there..but who knows what tomorrow brings..? i'm a positive thinker..which is partly the reason why i'm out of the country earning my honest lot..

only time will tell when i will be home to join my loving & understanding family for good..a time when, hopefully, it transform into reality what i dream & seek.. for the men & women in uniform of my country..

ang dalawang sentimos kong opinyon..

[khayib]

Mr. AtongK and quindoyos,

It's nice to know that there are soldiers who still uphold nobility in their words and deeds. Hope your tribes increase and eliminate those skunks.

On the contrary, you imply that every citizen's taxes share (as mine) is very negligible and therefore, is not worth giving importance. It could only be a centavo for every soldier (I don't have a data) so, there's not much to give importance to every taxpayer as those soldiers have shown to the lady.

I think you have some work reversing the above doctrine.

Still, I have high regards to the military (PA, Navy, Marines)and I always defend them on discussions regarding abuses. Those policemen are dragging your image down and people perceive them as one of your kind. I have personal knowledge of police abuses myself and little of military's. I have been always saying that if I had to be the president, I would replace all PNP personnel with soldiers to clean the police up.

I pay quite a fortune (for some) in income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, VAT, etc. etc. and I pay them religiously as my part in building this country (this can be no big deal to some).

It's just disgusting to know the abuses civilians encountered by those people supposed to serve them.

I hope those fine men in the military will help their ranks to be true to their ideals.

[GlennSter]

so in short, lumayo nalang kayo sa mga trucks..kahit sa mga buses.wag nang dumikit.

my friend VINJ (president of nissanbayan and a poster here) was a victim na rin niyan...pero di nagtagal, nainitindihan niya na sana ay siya nalang ang lumayo.

[CLAVEL3699]

Originally posted by GlennSter
so in short, lumayo nalang kayo sa mga trucks..kahit sa mga buses.wag nang dumikit.

my friend VINJ (president of nissanbayan and a poster here) was a victim na rin niyan...pero di nagtagal, nainitindihan niya na sana ay siya nalang ang lumayo.

Si Vinj nga yung nagpost dati...

Tama po ba Sir Glen?:worried:

[GlennSter]

yes sir, clavel!

[atongk]

mr khayib,

there is no doctrine in our previous post, all we would like to imply is please do not generalize the military organization.

the military are working hard to keep our country safe and secure so all of you can sleep under the blanket of security they provide

please note that the military organization is separate from the phil national police. . .

sir lmp,
nabanggit mo na marine m35 truck? please give any any identification markings on the vehicle (even bumper markings only) the date and time happened, i'll trace the driver. Pls PM me for the details. . . thanks

[lmp]

sir atongk i have already pm'd you marami pong salamat.

sorry kung medyo nabulabog ata itong forum dahil sa thread ko kaya ko lang naman po pinost yong experience namin para warning & lesson na rin sa iba hindi para "magkagulo" hehehe peace to everyone. ako natutunan ko lesson from that experience hindi lang lalayo kundi talaga titigil ako sa isang tabi away from them pag me nakita na ako military or police vehcles.

i guess we are all of the same opinion naman na not all afp & pnp personnel are "bulok" meron pa ring honorable, honest & principled ones masyado lang naka-spotlight & yong media mileage is mas madami don sa mga misdeeds rather than good deeds na nagagawa nila. kahit don sa sinabi ni mr. khayib na police abuses, meron pa rin naman matitinong pulis. mr. khayib baka mag-react naman yong mga taga-pnp.

isa lang regret ko sa nangyari sa amin, na-postpone pagpunta ko sa bigberts dapat yesterday e medyo nerbyos pa ako mag-drive mag-isa kaya di na lang ako tumuloy. napapatagal tuloy ang balak namin na pagandahin ride namin & personally meeting the very friendly owners.

[atongk]

ma'am lmp, you have pm