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    peeps, possible pa ba mabago ang mind set ng driving natin dito sa pinas? when i was in the US last november, nabilib talaga ako sa manner of driving dun. very courteous mga tao. they always follow road signs lalong lalo na ang stop signs. kahit walang sasakyan, stop talaga sila. also, they respect the pedestrians.

    na-compare ko lang kasi dito. parang normal na lang kasi ang mag-swerve, mang-cut, jeepneys/buses/tricycles picking up passengers in the middle of the road, overtaking sa shoulder, no respect to crossing pedestrians, tailgating, overspeeding in inner streets, excessive honking, using blinkers/sirens, counterflow, etc...

    bakit sa subic sumusunod naman tayo. bakit hindi magawa sa ibang lugar? dahil ba congested na tayo o sobrang daming sasakyan? kaya rin nagkaka-traffic kasi hindi na lang mag-stay sa lane. sa tingin ko possible naman ma solve lahat ito. dapat lang stricter ang penalties sa mga may offense. di ba nasunod naman natin ang seatbelt and coding laws? ano sa tingin nyo peeps

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    The problem is three-fold.

    1. People will abuse it when nobody is looking.

    2. There aren't a lot of law enforcement officers that can resist a bribe.

    3. And with poverty and the lack of education comes lack of discipline for most drivers, especially PUV drivers dahil yon ang pinang-kakain nila sa pamilya nila so they have to fight for it whatever way they can.

    Being born and raised there and then living here in the US makes me realize how flexible the human being can be when it comes to discipline, however.

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    We have to start with ourselves. If we think "everybody does it anyway" nothing's going to change.

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    deprived tayo sa maluwag na kalsada at ito ang ugat ng kawalan ng
    disiplina. if we have sufficient road hindi magkakaganito. MGA GUTOM
    TAYO pagdating sa kalsada kaya kahit hindi dapat ay ipinipilit mapagbigyan
    lang ang sarili.

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    no chance, whatsoever, bec of poverty most of our drivers didn't go to formal driving trainings, I bet most of them tinuruan lang ng kapitbahay, kamaganak, kaibigan... siguro pwede kung hulugan tayo ng A-bomb tapos start from scratch lahat...hehhee

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    eliminate PUVs puwede na. just look at places na walang PUV, subic, rockwell, ortigas, fort, eastwood ok naman di'ba parang US na din

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    have stricter enforcers. yun lang naman yun eh.

    bakit sa clarkfield, pamp or subic, matino ang trapik? kase takot mo lang mahuli dun. di ka sasantohin ng mga enforcer. eh dito sa metro manila. may ube ka lang solve na! kahit nga orange pinapatos eh.

    same thing as when we ask, bakit ang mga pinoys sa ibang bansa nagiging matino? samantalang pag nandito sa sarili nilang bansa eh, napakatigas ng ulo, mga Pasaway! eh kase sa ibang bansa tutuluyan sila ng mga tao dun pag nag violate ng rules, samantalang dito, mahahanapan nila ng paraan para makalusot! tsk..tsk..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    eliminate PUVs puwede na. just look at places na walang PUV, subic, rockwell, ortigas, fort, eastwood ok naman di'ba parang US na din
    Good idea, but how's the poor going to get around town then...? I personally rely on a LOT of public transpo myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    peeps, possible pa ba mabago ang mind set ng driving natin dito sa pinas? when i was in the US last november, nabilib talaga ako sa manner of driving dun. very courteous mga tao. they always follow road signs lalong lalo na ang stop signs. kahit walang sasakyan, stop talaga sila. also, they respect the pedestrians.

    na-compare ko lang kasi dito. parang normal na lang kasi ang mag-swerve, mang-cut, jeepneys/buses/tricycles picking up passengers in the middle of the road, overtaking sa shoulder, no respect to crossing pedestrians, tailgating, overspeeding in inner streets, excessive honking, using blinkers/sirens, counterflow, etc...

    bakit sa subic sumusunod naman tayo. bakit hindi magawa sa ibang lugar? dahil ba congested na tayo o sobrang daming sasakyan? kaya rin nagkaka-traffic kasi hindi na lang mag-stay sa lane. sa tingin ko possible naman ma solve lahat ito. dapat lang stricter ang penalties sa mga may offense. di ba nasunod naman natin ang seatbelt and coding laws? ano sa tingin nyo peeps
    I think mahirap eh, congested kasi ang mga kalye sa 'tin, kaya lumalabas ang pagkasaway pero as I see it, comparing pinoy drivers compared to others, parang mas OK na drivers ang pinoy, congested lang talaga ang roads natin. Congested roads IMO, equates to difficulty in enforcing laws, sa Subic kasi 'di naman congested do'n AFAIK, kaya mas madaling magpatupad ng batas. I think there's something wrong if not in the road system, or the transport network in general which leads to city congestion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heightdeprived View Post
    I think mahirap eh, congested kasi ang mga kalye sa 'tin, kaya lumalabas ang pagkasaway pero as I see it, comparing pinoy drivers compared to others, parang mas OK na drivers ang pinoy, congested lang talaga ang roads natin. Congested roads IMO, equates to difficulty in enforcing laws, sa Subic kasi 'di naman congested do'n AFAIK, kaya mas madaling magpatupad ng batas. I think there's something wrong if not in the road system, or the transport network in general which leads to city congestion...
    alang kinalaman ang congested na daan pre. karamihan lang sa mga drivers eh walang disiplina. sa Sanfo congested ang streets dun pero baket umaandar ang traffic. ma-traffic pero alam mong 90% eh walang manggugulang sa iyo sa daan.

    sa tingin ko possible mabago ang driving habits sa pamamagitan ng force. kailangan dito ang tulong ng mga traffic cops at karagdagang penalty. tipong pag may humarang sa intersection na sasakyan eh dapat hindi bababa sa P2,500 ang multa kung hindi makapagbayad kukumpiskahin ang plaka. Baket kaya hindi gawin ng gobyerno ganun? Pwedeng kumita ang gobyerno dun and at the same time gamitin para sa bansa. Biro mo ilan ang nakabara sa intersection na mga sasakyan. Ilan dyan ang nagtuturn right habang red.

    Speaking of turning right while red (for selected manila streets).. marami sa mga driver talaga pasaway. Actually kung gusto mong kumanan dapat magbibigay daan ka lagi doon sa lane na nakagreen. hangga't malayo pa or wala ng magpapass, that's the time ka lang dapat mag tuturn right.

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    As I stated earlier,- IMO, increase the fine and then huli lang ng huli, talo ang asar...

    Respect and discipline has to stand on something solid,- this is fear (for one's life, well-being, safety et al). It's human nature. If it begins to hurt, then you begin to follow rules.

    1801 :fuzzy:

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    peeps, dito ako ngayon singapore. as usual, na-compare ko na naman ang driving habits natin sa pinas. walang bumubusina dito. very minimal ang nagse-swerve. post ako pics pag balik ko.

    talagang ang cause ng chaos sa manila ay ang mga jeepney, tricycle and bus drivers. dapat talagang lakihan ang multa, say php 5000 on petty offenses. in that way mapipilitan sumunod lahat sa patakaran. like what happened to me sa slex a few years ago. i was driving with 1 busted headlight, hinuli ako sa tollgate. wala akong magawa. i got my license sa Lto east ave for almost a day kasi ang dami naming nahuli. nakakadala

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    alang kinalaman ang congested na daan pre. karamihan lang sa mga drivers eh walang disiplina. sa Sanfo congested ang streets dun pero baket umaandar ang traffic. ma-traffic pero alam mong 90% eh walang manggugulang sa iyo sa daan.

    sa tingin ko possible mabago ang driving habits sa pamamagitan ng force. kailangan dito ang tulong ng mga traffic cops at karagdagang penalty. tipong pag may humarang sa intersection na sasakyan eh dapat hindi bababa sa P2,500 ang multa kung hindi makapagbayad kukumpiskahin ang plaka. Baket kaya hindi gawin ng gobyerno ganun? Pwedeng kumita ang gobyerno dun and at the same time gamitin para sa bansa. Biro mo ilan ang nakabara sa intersection na mga sasakyan. Ilan dyan ang nagtuturn right habang red.

    Speaking of turning right while red (for selected manila streets).. marami sa mga driver talaga pasaway. Actually kung gusto mong kumanan dapat magbibigay daan ka lagi doon sa lane na nakagreen. hangga't malayo pa or wala ng magpapass, that's the time ka lang dapat mag tuturn right.

    fines, ewan ko bakit 'di nila tinataas ang fines... :-/

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    perhaps, we should train our children to drive smarter, by teaching them the proper road courtesy. setting an example too...

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    there is really a very fine possibility.. why? where in the hell can you get a driving license without taking a driving test or even answering the examination on your own.. konting padulas lang sa mga fixer and in an hour or so, you already have your own driving lessons.. of course, only here in the philippines.. tsk tsk.. just imagine the outcome of new drivers on the streets.. hay..

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    peeps, possible pa ba mabago ang mind set ng driving natin dito sa pinas? when i was in the US last november, nabilib talaga ako sa manner of driving dun. very courteous mga tao. they always follow road signs lalong lalo na ang stop signs. kahit walang sasakyan, stop talaga sila. also, they respect the pedestrians.

    na-compare ko lang kasi dito. parang normal na lang kasi ang mag-swerve, mang-cut, jeepneys/buses/tricycles picking up passengers in the middle of the road, overtaking sa shoulder, no respect to crossing pedestrians, tailgating, overspeeding in inner streets, excessive honking, using blinkers/sirens, counterflow, etc...

    bakit sa subic sumusunod naman tayo. bakit hindi magawa sa ibang lugar? dahil ba congested na tayo o sobrang daming sasakyan? kaya rin nagkaka-traffic kasi hindi na lang mag-stay sa lane. sa tingin ko possible naman ma solve lahat ito. dapat lang stricter ang penalties sa mga may offense. di ba nasunod naman natin ang seatbelt and coding laws? ano sa tingin nyo peeps
    Ganyan talaga Pinoy. Me concern lang within the family. Outside wala ng pakialam. Kung at 1 time magkakamaganak ang nasa isang kalye, tingnan mo magbibigayan yan.

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    bad driving habit can be minimized thru strictly implementing rules and regulations...anyways Im just a newbie here and just started to drive...i really appreciate this site......thanks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedbump View Post
    bad driving habit can be minimized thru strictly implementing rules and regulations...anyways Im just a newbie here and just started to drive...i really appreciate this site......thanks..
    + Educate our drivers!

    Maybe Tsikot can make a simple guidelines in a form of FLIERS? then those who are willing to contribute just copy the file and have it RISO. Mura lang naman pa-riso, P120.00 + 120.00/pack bond paper =P250.00.. so lalabas lang na .5 cents kung 1 whole, .25 lang kung 1/2.

    Ma-promote pa natin ang TSIKOT.COM nakatulong pa tayo in a way. Pag ok ito e willing ako gumastos ng konti at baka makatulong tayo ng konti sa problema natin.

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    Possible yan bakit ba hindi.pero dapat strict implementation of the rules and regulations(kahit anong rules/regulations).

    a) re-orientation - lahat ng enforcers (police, mmda etc etc)
    - walang tatanggap ng lagay
    - walang padrino (basta me vioalation, kahit tiketan)

    b) re-orientation ng mga nasa posisyon (from city councilor to the president)
    - alang padrino system

    c) para sa LTO,
    - lahat ng kukuha ng lisensya, dapat e test drive muna nila. kung bagsak, re-take ng actual driving pero after a month pa.
    - re-orientation din sa mga staff nila (alang lagayan system)

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    Kung gagayahin natin yung parusa ng Middle East and Singapore pag nagkamali mga tao eh talagang magiging possible.

    Hindi lang sa driving habits, sa lahat ng bagay.

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