Pedestrian critical in San Juan accident. (Involving Montero Sport)

[ghosthunter]

common GH, you are a fair man. if ever there is a time we should take sides it is this time. and i think we should take the side of the victim not the criminal.

A fair man should not take sides. He should look at the issue with a broader view than just what is presented in front of him. How can someone still be considered "fair" or unbiased if he ends up taking one side over another?

[cast_no_shadow]

So, are you saying a disabled person is less of a human? Cannot he get over his disability and get on with his life?

People's attitude is like if someone lost a limb, it is like he is less of a human being.

Think of a worst case scenario, like a POOR victim fell into a coma, woke up, still paralyzed, needs a lifetime treatment / supply of medicines. How can that one get over his disability? Rationally? yes, for me i can consider him/her as a less human being.

[_Qwerty_]

ewan ko kung meron ganon sa atin.. in the US, you can file a claim for wrongful death or permanent disablility.. usually they compute the possible productive years of the victim and his annual salary plus plus other damages.. so if a person is earning 300T per year, tapos he's 30 yrs old.. so he still has a good 30 yrs x 300T = 9M + damages..

problema pano kung wala din pambayad yung may kasalanan?

[Boy Bastos]

A fair man should not take sides. He should look at the issue with a broader view than just what is presented in front of him. How can someone still be considered "fair" or unbiased if he ends up taking one side over another?

Question to ghosthunter, if you are the victim, how much will you ask to the Montero driver for a compensation?


Different reasons for different people with financial status.

For a well-moneyed guy(victim) -Ok lang accident yan eh. Hindi maiiwasan eh. Ingat ka na lang sa susunod. Sana maging aral sa iyo ito.

For a working man(victim) - Hayup ka! Dinamay mo pa ako sa katangahan mo. Hindi na ako makakapasok sa trabaho dahil sa iyo. Paano ko ngayon bubuhayin pamilya ko dahil sa kagaguhan mo?

[pop3corn]

Like I said, attitudes like that gives reason for many to choose to "make sure" the accident victim is dead on the spot.

True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.

*ghost, i agree with others here. it's not an accident. the minute he went home driving drunk is the minute he became a cold-blooded killer. dapat nga mag-pass na ng law no matter how radical, that all drunk drivers are murderers or automatically with murder intent para tapos na yan problema.

ngaun pa lang tayo nag-eenter sa age where the working class can afford to be drunk and to buy SUVs and that's why sigurado lalaki ang cases ng drunk driving dito sa'tin.

personally, i really see no reason why people should drink more than 3 bottle of beers. Beer just makes your tummy bigger.

ang dapat talaga eh hard, and half a shot glass lang everyday. I do that for health and mental reasons.

tingin ko talaga volume beer drinkers are sociopaths, they think it's cool but in the physical sense, they are the most disgusting looking creatures na I see everyday, lousy dressers, rude and loud behaviour and their antics clearly shows na they are not well accepted into society or maybe even girls and that's why they resort to beer.

I see nothing wrong naman if they want to drink 5 cases of beers everyday, basta dapat wala na silang lisensya for life. let them drink to death. the money that they spend on beers helps our country's cash flow and then surely 5 or 7 years later, may liver cancer na sila. and then they die. so two birds, cash flow and bawas ang parasite sa lipunan. yun lang ang silbi nila


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dagdag ko lang, those who drink sanmig light. seriously nalalasing kayo dun o pretend lang. mas gusto ko pa dry and limit to 2 bottles for a 5 hour chat.

[glenn manikis]

loss both limbs i can say he's already half a man he use to be....

[Bin Diesel]

Like I said, attitudes like that gives reason for many to choose to "make sure" the accident victim is dead on the spot.

True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.

Now that's justice to the family of the poor guy.
Yes it was an accident because he was drunk and should have known better, just like policeman accidentally shooting somebody because he was playing with his gun by the way he's drunk too.

[XTO]

Emotional na kung emotional pero talagang isa lang tanung ng magiging mag-ina nung biktima. Papano na? and how do we think that asshole tsinoy would answer that? Aksidente? Amf! ang ganda ng kalye sa Wilson mas ginusto mo pang akyatin yung bangketa? G*g0 ka! Nguso mo lang nabasag.

Dapat dun sa magulong lugar ka nanagasa ng ganyan malamang di ka na abutan ng tatay mong sasagot sa lahat ng gastos....

[Bin Diesel]

+1
sa tingin ko din dapat mataas ang penalty ng drunk driving minsan na take for granted natin ito

share ko lang what happened sa family friend namin. her dad was a puj driver and unfortunately nahulog yung pasahero na nakasabit sa likod and namatay. sabi nung mga pasahero hindi naman daw mabilis yun jeep at nakabitiw lang talaga yung nakasabit dahil pagod ata sa trabaho. since ayaw nung friend makulong yung dad niya nakipagkasundo sila dun sa pamilya ng biktima. they shouldered all the expenses and meron din sustento. since hindi sila mayaman na baon na rin sila sa utang ngayon. nakikita ko rin talaga yung hirap na pinagdadaan dahil sa aksidente na yun

Kasalanan din naman talaga ng driver kasi di dapat siya nagpapasabit sa jeep. Dahil naghangad siya ng extrang kita mas malaki nawala sa kanya.

[Boy Bastos]

True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.

Trade-places with the victim then you will know what justice is.

:D

[glenn manikis]

ewan ko kung meron ganon sa atin.. in the US, you can file a claim for wrongful death or permanent disablility.. usually they compute the possible productive years of the victim and his annual salary plus plus other damages.. so if a person is earning 300T per year, tapos he's 30 yrs old.. so he still has a good 30 yrs x 300T = 9M + damages..

problema pano kung wala din pambayad yung may kasalanan?

ganun din satin sir... pero reasonable compensation lang at dapat i prove mo sa court yan...

kung at the moment walang pang bayad, propeties etc..... pag may pang bayad na cya pwede ka mag file ng motion for an alias writ of execution... (Just be sure to keep all the court records) pwede din garnish ng court half ng salary nya pag may work na cya....

[Bin Diesel]

If you want to be fair, then ban all alcoholic drinks as nothing comes good from them. Drunk people kill each other for the most pointless reasons. Alcohol has known to be the cause of many illnesses.

And along the way, just throw the drunk driver in jail for a while and cancel his driver's license. Just let the guy pay for reparations to the victim. Calling for a "lifetime" of financial support will not help the victim to get back into living his life. All you are doing is making a human leech.It is obvious many people here are acting too much from their emotions about the issue.

Well basically it's the drunk driver's fault so let him carry the burden. Correct a lifetime of financial support will not help him get his life back that's why he should receive a free pass from the jerk who ran him over.

[Bin Diesel]

So, are you saying a disabled person is less of a human? Cannot he get over his disability and get on with his life?

People's attitude is like if someone lost a limb, it is like he is less of a human being.

He's a waiter can you wait tables if your disabled? In case he can is he as efficient as before? Will someone hire him over thousands of abled applicants?

[ecneret]

para sakin hindi aksidente 'to... kasalanan talaga 'to ng iresponsable na driver! di din dapat sisihin ang alak dito... may mga paalala naman yang mga yan sa mga commercials and posters nila. saka even sa mga kalsada dyan satin may mga warning naman na 'dont drink and drive' e. pero dahil nga siguro sa tsinoy siya baka di niya naintindihan... dapat 'dont dlink and dlive'...

[Bin Diesel]

tingin ko talaga volume beer drinkers are sociopaths, they think it's cool but in the physical sense, they are the most disgusting looking creatures na I see everyday, lousy dressers, rude and loud behaviour and their antics clearly shows na they are not well accepted into society or maybe even girls and that's why they resort to beer.

Don't talk about our policemen like that! lol.

[_Qwerty_]

will his comprehensive insurance cover the damages don sa victim?

[Bin Diesel]

Is drunk driving the same with falling asleep while driving and running over road barriers and wrecking your car along the way? Both irresponsible maybe?
Well just a thought.

[techsupporter]

In my opinion this was not an accident.

1.The driver intentionally consumed alchohol, and then drove his car.
2. The victim was not jaywalking.
3. The driver had a chance to avoid the event but did not opt to (not drinking and/or not driving) The victim did not.

I hope the victime gets a good lawyer to find the best settlement. I agree with the others here about having driver pay for everything including the victim's potential income for the all the years of his life. This is usually the norm, but the problem is that usually the victims, because of their emotions and sometimes little knowledge and capacity to forsee, are quick to agree to a settlement of a few million pesos. I hope the driver and his family gets enlightened and face the charges, and also supports the waiter on his recovery and future challenges in life with his disability garnered from this incident.

[ghosthunter]

He's a waiter can you wait tables if your disabled? In case he can is he as efficient as before? Will someone hire him over thousands of abled applicants?

Is that all that a person can do?

[ghosthunter]

Is drunk driving the same with falling asleep while driving and running over road barriers and wrecking your car along the way? Both irresponsible maybe?
Well just a thought.

Is it the same as using one's mobile phone and having an accident because of having your attention away from the road?