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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    common GH, you are a fair man. if ever there is a time we should take sides it is this time. and i think we should take the side of the victim not the criminal.
    A fair man should not take sides. He should look at the issue with a broader view than just what is presented in front of him. How can someone still be considered "fair" or unbiased if he ends up taking one side over another?

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    So, are you saying a disabled person is less of a human? Cannot he get over his disability and get on with his life?

    People's attitude is like if someone lost a limb, it is like he is less of a human being.
    Think of a worst case scenario, like a POOR victim fell into a coma, woke up, still paralyzed, needs a lifetime treatment / supply of medicines. How can that one get over his disability? Rationally? yes, for me i can consider him/her as a less human being.

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    #43
    ewan ko kung meron ganon sa atin.. in the US, you can file a claim for wrongful death or permanent disablility.. usually they compute the possible productive years of the victim and his annual salary plus plus other damages.. so if a person is earning 300T per year, tapos he's 30 yrs old.. so he still has a good 30 yrs x 300T = 9M + damages..

    problema pano kung wala din pambayad yung may kasalanan?

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    A fair man should not take sides. He should look at the issue with a broader view than just what is presented in front of him. How can someone still be considered "fair" or unbiased if he ends up taking one side over another?
    Question to ghosthunter, if you are the victim, how much will you ask to the Montero driver for a compensation?


    Different reasons for different people with financial status.

    For a well-moneyed guy(victim) -Ok lang accident yan eh. Hindi maiiwasan eh. Ingat ka na lang sa susunod. Sana maging aral sa iyo ito.

    For a working man(victim) - Hayup ka! Dinamay mo pa ako sa katangahan mo. Hindi na ako makakapasok sa trabaho dahil sa iyo. Paano ko ngayon bubuhayin pamilya ko dahil sa kagaguhan mo?

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Like I said, attitudes like that gives reason for many to choose to "make sure" the accident victim is dead on the spot.

    True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.

    *ghost, i agree with others here. it's not an accident. the minute he went home driving drunk is the minute he became a cold-blooded killer. dapat nga mag-pass na ng law no matter how radical, that all drunk drivers are murderers or automatically with murder intent para tapos na yan problema.

    ngaun pa lang tayo nag-eenter sa age where the working class can afford to be drunk and to buy SUVs and that's why sigurado lalaki ang cases ng drunk driving dito sa'tin.

    personally, i really see no reason why people should drink more than 3 bottle of beers. Beer just makes your tummy bigger.

    ang dapat talaga eh hard, and half a shot glass lang everyday. I do that for health and mental reasons.

    tingin ko talaga volume beer drinkers are sociopaths, they think it's cool but in the physical sense, they are the most disgusting looking creatures na I see everyday, lousy dressers, rude and loud behaviour and their antics clearly shows na they are not well accepted into society or maybe even girls and that's why they resort to beer.

    I see nothing wrong naman if they want to drink 5 cases of beers everyday, basta dapat wala na silang lisensya for life. let them drink to death. the money that they spend on beers helps our country's cash flow and then surely 5 or 7 years later, may liver cancer na sila. and then they die. so two birds, cash flow and bawas ang parasite sa lipunan. yun lang ang silbi nila


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    dagdag ko lang, those who drink sanmig light. seriously nalalasing kayo dun o pretend lang. mas gusto ko pa dry and limit to 2 bottles for a 5 hour chat.
    Last edited by pop3corn; July 10th, 2012 at 03:26 PM.

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    #46
    loss both limbs i can say he's already half a man he use to be....

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Like I said, attitudes like that gives reason for many to choose to "make sure" the accident victim is dead on the spot.

    True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.
    Now that's justice to the family of the poor guy.
    Yes it was an accident because he was drunk and should have known better, just like policeman accidentally shooting somebody because he was playing with his gun by the way he's drunk too.

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    #48
    Emotional na kung emotional pero talagang isa lang tanung ng magiging mag-ina nung biktima. Papano na? and how do we think that asshole tsinoy would answer that? Aksidente? Amf! ang ganda ng kalye sa Wilson mas ginusto mo pang akyatin yung bangketa? G*g0 ka! Nguso mo lang nabasag.

    Dapat dun sa magulong lugar ka nanagasa ng ganyan malamang di ka na abutan ng tatay mong sasagot sa lahat ng gastos....

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by frequenzy View Post
    +1
    sa tingin ko din dapat mataas ang penalty ng drunk driving minsan na take for granted natin ito

    share ko lang what happened sa family friend namin. her dad was a puj driver and unfortunately nahulog yung pasahero na nakasabit sa likod and namatay. sabi nung mga pasahero hindi naman daw mabilis yun jeep at nakabitiw lang talaga yung nakasabit dahil pagod ata sa trabaho. since ayaw nung friend makulong yung dad niya nakipagkasundo sila dun sa pamilya ng biktima. they shouldered all the expenses and meron din sustento. since hindi sila mayaman na baon na rin sila sa utang ngayon. nakikita ko rin talaga yung hirap na pinagdadaan dahil sa aksidente na yun
    Kasalanan din naman talaga ng driver kasi di dapat siya nagpapasabit sa jeep. Dahil naghangad siya ng extrang kita mas malaki nawala sa kanya.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    True, it is wrong for the driver of the montero to be drunk and still be driving. BUT requiring a person to a lifetime of financial support is akin to financial "slavery". Where is the justice in that? Like I said, an accident is an accident.
    Trade-places with the victim then you will know what justice is.

    :D

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Pedestrian critical in San Juan accident.  (Involving Montero Sport)