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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by frequenzy View Post
    revenge kung puputulin din yung legs ng driver
    Huwag mo kalimutang ubusin din yung ngipin.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Exactly my point. Too much personal emotions in the responses.
    sorry sir but what i mean is 'sa tingin ng iba' e nagiging revenge...

    natural lang naman maging emotional siguro katulad lang nung sa beggar kuno na thread yan... actually hinihintay ko nga mag-comment dito si sir jacoby e...

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by ecneret View Post
    actually comment ko yan don sa tanong about justice and revenge... lahat naman tayo dito syempre gusto natin mabigyan ng justice yung nangyari don sa biktima di ba? e parang lumalabas kasi na revenge yung mga comments na nag-seek ng justice...
    Di ba ganyan naman talaga ang general ambiance dito sa goon squad?

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    #84
    Mahirap patunayan yung nakatulog or nagtex.

    Pero ang lasing....ilong lang gagamtin.

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    #85
    Quote Originally Posted by ecneret View Post
    actually comment ko yan don sa tanong about justice and revenge... lahat naman tayo dito syempre gusto natin mabigyan ng justice yung nangyari don sa biktima di ba? e parang lumalabas kasi na revenge yung mga comments na nag-seek ng justice...
    kung sakin nangyari yung aksidente... bahala na sakanya si lord... pero file pa din ako ng case sakanya.... to recover the damages he inflicted on me..... moral damages, actual at lalong lalo na exemplary damages.

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    #86
    nice discussion, kaso at the end of the day si victim putol ang legs, si mokong na naka disgrasya pera mawawala sa kanya, na pwde parin niya kitain ulit, pero yun naputol ba na legs pwdeng tumubo ulit?

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    #87
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    kung sakin nangyari yung aksidente... bahala na sakanya si lord... pero file pa din ako ng case sakanya.... to recover the damages he inflicted on me..... moral damages, actual at lalong lalo na exemplary damages.
    ganon din ako sir.. sisiguraduhin ko sir na pagbabayaran niya lahat...

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by ecneret View Post
    sorry sir but what i mean is 'sa tingin ng iba' e nagiging revenge...

    natural lang naman maging emotional siguro katulad lang nung sa beggar kuno na thread yan... actually hinihintay ko nga mag-comment dito si sir jacoby e...
    why you missed me already----im so sorry cause im so busy attending to my animals in my funny farm two of them escape, i found one already.... got you.... JOke...

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    #89
    Quote Originally Posted by jacoby View Post
    why you missed me already----im so sorry cause im so busy attending to my animals in my funny farm two of them escape, i found one already.... got you.... JOke...
    :lol:

    oo sir... di kumpleto araw ko pag di ko nababasa post nyo ni sir OB..

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    #90
    If the victim is not seriously injured (for example a broken foot which can recover for a month or 2) then the driver should not compensate the victim for the rest of his life.

    But in this case, the victim lost both of his lower limbs. His old job requires manual labor with the use of his 2 limbs. Without that, how can he go back to his normal job? What jobs are available for people with this disability? Who will hire him in the first place?

    The victim is not being a leech here as per GH's comments. He needs the compensation to support his family.

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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Question to ghosthunter, if you are the victim, how much will you ask to the Montero driver for a compensation?


    Different reasons for different people with financial status.

    For a well-moneyed guy(victim) -Ok lang accident yan eh. Hindi maiiwasan eh. Ingat ka na lang sa susunod. Sana maging aral sa iyo ito.

    For a working man(victim) - Hayup ka! Dinamay mo pa ako sa katangahan mo. Hindi na ako makakapasok sa trabaho dahil sa iyo. Paano ko ngayon bubuhayin pamilya ko dahil sa kagaguhan mo?
    I'd like to know the answer also. I hope that none of us or our loved ones ever go through this. But one day, you may just find yourself in a similar situation.

    Sa ngayon ang dali magsalita at mag "analyze". Nasa harap lang naman tayo ng computer at nagta-type.

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by mondymondy View Post
    If the victim is not seriously injured (for example a broken foot which can recover for a month or 2) then the driver should not compensate the victim for the rest of his life.

    But in this case, the victim lost both of his lower limbs. His old job requires manual labor with the use of his 2 limbs. Without that, how can he go back to his normal job? What jobs are available for people with this disability? Who will hire him in the first place?

    The victim is not being a leech here as per GH's comments. He needs the compensation to support his family.
    Re-read my post. Before the accident the victim was a salaried worker. But after the accident, you would all prefer to "award" him with what is basically a lifetime pension plan. Would the victim simply end up relying on someone else for everything he would need and want?

    Why do so many people automatically equate all people with disabilities as an instant burden to society to bear?

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    #93
    I broke my primary working hand after a bad fall recently and had to be fitted with a cast for 6 weeks.. It wasn't easy going about my day to day activities..it was a self accident but it still caused me a lot of anguish and difficulties..imagine what the victim in this case is going to face in the future..i say compensate the victim amply and punish perpetrator justly..cut off his legs and transplant them over..

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    #94
    Quote Originally Posted by nic View Post
    I'd like to know the answer also. I hope that none of us or our loved ones ever go through this. But one day, you may just find yourself in a similar situation.

    Sa ngayon ang dali magsalita at mag "analyze". Nasa harap lang naman tayo ng computer at nagta-type.

    ... its just so easy to become an unruly mob looking for blood and justify that by reason of "justice" when at the end of it all it is all for cold blooded revenge.

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    #95
    as i said in page 8, you have no concept of revenge. you are calling revenge what a good lawyer can wrangle from the courts of law. that is not revenge.

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    #96
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Re-read my post. Before the accident the victim was a salaried worker. But after the accident, you would all prefer to "award" him with what is basically a lifetime pension plan. Would the victim simply end up relying on someone else for everything he would need and want?

    Why do so many people automatically equate all people with disabilities as an instant burden to society to bear?
    Huwat?!

    So ano pala ang gagawin mo kung ikaw yung Montero driver? Anong sasabihin mo sa biktima mo?

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    #97
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Why do so many people automatically equate all people with disabilities as an instant burden to society to bear?
    hirap na kasi makahanap ng trabaho ang may disabilities and no company (or few) hire them. what more kung bungal ka na, basag pa mukha mo at pilay pa. pero kung mayaman ka....dun ka na lang sa bahay bakasyunan habang sinusubuan ka at pinapaliguan.

    kaya dun sa engot na lasing pa na driver....dapat nyang pagbayaran ang naging decision nya that leads to this accident.

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    #98
    revenge is not about getting even. making the guy pay material things is not revenge. making him sorry he did what he did is not revenge.

    revenge is making the other guy be sorry your paths crossed, in such a way that he will wish to be better dead than face your wrath. revenge is instilling fear and panic, of making him ask if it were real or a bad dream. it is about hurting so hard, of making pain a certainty. and it will be permanent, no amount of theraphy will cure it. that is revenge.

    and mob rule? hah! if mobs rule he will already be hanging from the nearest electric post with his guts hanging out. as someone here said earlier, let's see him do that in baseco.

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    #99
    Why is it so easy for an unruly mob to vilify someone who is just trying to be level headed? LOL!

    I guess I'll just see how far this will go on its own.

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    #100
    I can see GH's point.

    Put yourselves also * the case of the Montero driver.

    Let's say there's an existing law that states that someone must "feed" the victim & his family for the rest of his life until he dies. Kelangan may monthly allowance (etc. etc.) Kasi physically incapable na yung victim to be efficient and work.

    ^ Diyan pumapasok yung evil sa ibang tao. Natural instinct would be kill the person on the spot. Why? Isang bagsakan nalang ng pera. Same sh!t. At least wala ka na poproblemahin na monthly dues. Just pay the funeral, the internment... done.

    Diyan rin pumapasok greed ng tao. Baka kapag may ganyang law yung mga squatter magpasagasa nalang para magkaron sila monthly income. Easy? Hell yeah! Lalo na kung wala kang silbi sa family mo, palamunin lang. Instant breadwinner!

    Then again, kelangan pa rin ng justice. I think the perfect way to pay the victim is pay for his prosthetic legs [for victims with limbs to be amputated, sagutin ang prosthetics + therapy] for the hospital bills & give a compensation of about 100k?

    Of course may mali yung driver, so might as well suspend or totally cancel his license as well.

    Meron lang talaga tao na malas. They're in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's inevitable. Tinamaan ka ng kidlat, you're dead.. tinamaan ka ng ligaw na bala, patay ka pa rin.

    So I guess fair enough na yun. With prosthetic legs, one can do what he was doing when he still had his original legs. Plus may $$$ ka pa to feed your family during the span of your therapy.

Pedestrian critical in San Juan accident.  (Involving Montero Sport)