pag salpok ng taxi sa suv, sino may mali?

[Noel Salisipan]

"Right of way"!
Clear na para sa taxi yung right of way.

Collision, may laban ang taxi dahil sa gilid tinamaan.

Right hand rule, sa taxi pa rin dahil nasa kaliwa nya yung SUV at nasa kanan ang SUV ang taxi.

Speed limit, kung may evidence na more than the limit yung taxi pwedeng yun lang ang kaso nya, the rest sa SUV na.

[Noel Salisipan]

Right of way, taxi.
Right hand rule, taxi.
Collision, since sa gilid ang tama pwedeng favor sa taxi.

Over speeding, kung may evidence, but it is a separate case.

[BratPAQ]

incline pala eh di mas lalong magingat sa pagmerge, obvious naman ni hindi huminto yung suv bago pumasok. dirediretso lang sya.

[yebo]

yan ba yung u-turn sa edsa/p.tuazon sa araneta? e ginagamit ko ang u-turn na yan pag namamalenke kami sa farmers' market. e dapat nga yan pwede ka lang mag-u-turn pag naka-stop yung traffic sa edsa at go ang tuazon. kaya nga pag nagkataon na madami vehicles pa-u-turn papuntang araneta center e pila yan e hangang dun sa ibaba ng underpass (kasi lalabas ka ng kanan from the underpass papunta dyan sa u-turn slot na yan) at pag go ang edsa e di ka makakapasok dyan. kung sa edsa/p.tuazon nga yan e maling-mali talaga yung suv, unless naka-red light ang edsa at tumuloy pa din yung taxi.

[jut703]

Yun taxi familiar naman dyan sa road na yan siguro. May stoplight timer yan at alam nya may uturn dyan. Dapat nagbagal sya but from the looks of it baka hinahabol nya yun timer sa stoplight. Medyo matagal din kasi red dyan eh.

30 seconds lang yung red light ng EDSA sa intersection na yan bro. Kung naabutan ako ng yellow, titigil nalang ako, pero siyempre, taxi yan eh.

Taxi driver mali kahit san mo tingnan. Kung ako dyan at di tumaob ang taxi makakatikim pa sakin taxi driver pero dahil tumaob sya pede na buti nga sa kanya.

Bro kung ganito ka lang rin ka-crass mag-comment, sana wag mo na i-name drop school natin. Nakakahiya.

sa mga mag popost po, isa lang po ang pwede tama o mali, di po pwede sabay...

Ba't naman hindi? We don't live in a black and white reality.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, there's a newly-built MMDA outpost on what used to be the pedestrian walkway of the P.Tuazon-EDSA overpass. Because of this outpost, a motorist coming from Santolan will not be able to see a vehicle taking a u-turn from Arayat (southbound side) to Araneta (northbound). This is perhaps the reason why the taxi driver failed to see the merging LC. Of course, a responsible motorist should have taken extra caution precisely because it's harder to see vehicles taking a u-turn, but then again, responsible and taxi driver don't often mix.

Likewise, as another consequence of the poorly-placed MMDA outpost, the LC driver probably didn't see the taxi driver coming as he was taking his u-turn. However, since the outpost doesn't block the entire length of the u-turn slot, if he bothered to slow down right before merging, at a point where his car's hood would only be barely on the leftmost lane, he would've seen the headlights of an oncoming vehicle.

Also, as has been mentioned, there's a really big problem in u-turn slots (not just this one) wherein people tend to exit at the second lane as opposed to the inner-most lane. They fail to see that doing this requires oncoming traffic to adjust, and this is one of the reasons why traffic is so awful in C5, especially in the Libis u-turn. If only people took a preference to merge into the innermost lane as best as they could, traffic would be a wee bit lighter.

To me, it's a case of two drivers who don't know how to drive defensively ending up in an accident that ultimately puts the little guy in a deeper pile of crap.
Asa namang papayag yung LC owner na siya yung lalabas na mali.

[Noel Salisipan]

"Right of way"!
Clear na para sa taxi yung right of way.

Collision, may laban ang taxi dahil sa gilid tinamaan.

Right hand rule, sa taxi pa rin dahil nasa kaliwa nya yung SUV.

Speed limit, kung may evidence na more than the limit yung taxi pwedeng yun lang ang kaso nya, the rest sa SUV na.

[InDeep]

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sa akin mali ang SUV kasi the taxi has the right of way... also the SUV should look sa side mirror muna kung safe mag transfer ng lane... lastly always when making turns when you come from the left lane, your destination should also be the left lane, not the middle, not the right lane...

also for the SUV when entering a road make sure its safe na wala sasalubong sayo at di iyong basta basta nalang papasok ng kalsada...

pero bakit ang TAXI ang may kaso ng rekless imprudence???

Mali yun taxi kasi nakaliko na yun SUV. basta ikaw bumangga, ikaw may kasalanan. wala pa sa tamang lane yun taxi nakain nya yun 1st lane and very fast approach nya. kahit right of way mo pa, dapat cautious ka pag dating sa mga intersections. and knowing na may mga lumiliko dyan kung ako yan, doon ako sa outer lane para kung may liliko, libre yun 1st-2nd lane

[OTEP]

Mali din suv kasi pag u turn eh biglang gumitna. Dapat dun siya muna sa leftmost lane then start merging right when safe to do so. Hindi ito karera na kapag naka nguso na eh ikaw na ang winner.

Reminds me of the guy na nagkamali ng timpla ng gas sa traffic, sa katangahan niya, inatrasan niya ko habang naka stop ako. Pag baba declare agad siya na kasalanan ko daw dahil ako nasa likod. Ok lang siya? Yang mga bulok na pag iisip na yan ang dahilan bakit may dash cam na ko sa sasakyan.

Same with this suv. Buti nakita sa cctv yung pag swerve niya sa middle lane. At least fair ang laban. Though pareho silang may mali, nasa main thoroughfare pa din ang taxi.

Yung lang concept ng alternate merging hindi pa din alam ng mga local motorists. Yun nga lang yung sasakyan ko may microphone kaya pwede ko silang sigawan kapag nag aaasal kupal. Hehe

[InDeep]

mali pagliko kasi ng suv, dapat hindi sya dumikit sa left side, kabig sya sa right then liko para 1st lane lang ang nasakop nya. and malaki kasi sya kaya nahirapan syang lumiko and nakain nya 2 lanes. pero kahit ganon, if you notice yun taxi wala din sa gitna ng 2nd lane. nasakop nya parin part ng inner lane. sasalpok parin sya.

[OTEP]

The suv should have just waited for the road to clear. Kahit naka lights and siren kami sa u turn na iyan, we still stop to check before proceeding. Malapit na sa office iyang place na yan

[InDeep]

sabagay, make sure na the road is clear before you turn

[Horsepower]

We also use that U-turn pag namamalengke sa Farmers. Ako, personally, before I proceed, I make sure na naka-STOP yung oncoming traffic kasi nga, incline yan. There's no way for the U-turner to see kung may parating or wala kahit mataas pa ang sasakyan mo. Kahit manilaw na sa kakabusina yung nasa likod (kasi nga maraming bobo na driver dito sa Pinas), I don't budge. They can fly if they want basta ako, I will not put anyone, above all, myself and my passengers, in any danger, most of all avoidable ones.

Unfortunately, bobo yung driver ng SUV. Probably uneducated or some addict na tambay tapos ginawang driver - or equal in lack of brain power.

It is rather unfortunate na marami ang di nakakaintindi ng right of way. Kaya dapat talaga every renewal ng license may exam kasi yung iba nagsuhol lang. It is a good way to weed out the bad eggs. It would also discourage the patron of the fixers kasi siempre, bayad ka every 3 years. para ka nang nabingwit ng BIR crocs nun kasi siempre gradual ang increase ng "fees".

The taxi would just need an average lawyer kasi sya pa ang kinasuhan eh dapat sya ang nagkaso. Anyone with fair knowledge of traffic rules and common sense would be able to defend the driver. Kawawa naman, sya na nga naagrabyado, sya pa kinasuhan. Tigas din ng mukha nung SUV driver and owner. EDSA yun so obviously, dapat mabilis ang takbo mo. Assuming green light sya, there is NOTHING wrong with him driving at that speed. Besides, mabagal lang takbo nya, mga 60-70. Higher, and he would have crushed his entire front section. Mabigat yung SUV at magaan masyado ang vios, obviously, due to PHYSICS, ang tatalsik yung lighter one.

[InDeep]

Haha. Ang batas po natin mam e maka tao.
Kahit nasa tama ka, kung may agrabyadong tao, mataas parin ang probabilidad na matalo ka sa korte, maski tama ka.
Kaya nga hirap ang gobyerno na tangalin ang mga illegal settlers e. Solution? Sunigin ang lugar nila.
Kapag kasi dinala sa korte yan, magbabayad ka pa para panghanapbuhay nila..

Kawawa din kasi yun mga tao na nakukulong dahil sa mga ganun case. Lalo na truck drivers d naman agad kakagat brakes.

[InDeep]

And mali yun taxi for assuming kung saang lane pupunta yun suv. Dpat nagmenor nalang sya.

[HondaWay]

Haha. Ang batas po natin mam e maka tao.
Kahit nasa tama ka, kung may agrabyadong tao, mataas parin ang probabilidad na matalo ka sa korte, maski tama ka.
Kaya nga hirap ang gobyerno na tangalin ang mga illegal settlers e. Solution? Sunigin ang lugar nila.
Kapag kasi dinala sa korte yan, magbabayad ka pa para panghanapbuhay nila.

Pusa at gasoline ang usual solution. Sino nakasunog? Yung pusa.

[Noel Salisipan]

Right of way, sa taxi.

Collision, debate yan pero may laban ang taxi lalo na sa gilid ang tama ng SUV.

Right hand rule, favor sa taxi.

Unsafe turn, talo ang SUV.

Swerving, SUV.

Overspeeding, unless may ebidensya pero separate case yun kung mapapatunayan.

Sa mga violations na nakita ko talo ang SUV.

[mk]

For me mali yung taxi kasi pinas law ay pag sino nakabanga mali nya ehh based sa video sa likuran na tinamaan yung Lc200 ehh

Pero pag iisipin kawawa naman yung taxi driver, tumaaob na taxi nya, wala na cyang kita, nakasuhan pa, cya pa magbabayad and sermon sa operator

[vinj]

Our laws usually follow the premise that the last vehicle who could have avoided the accident (or something to that effect) is at fault. Even traffic enforcers have no sense to analyze who should have gotten right-of-way in an accident.

[IMm29]

I think both are at fault: the SUV for not yielding to traffic and swerving to the right, and the taxi for seemingly speeding at the intersection, or the area of the accident.

But then that's just based on the CCTV footage. Like what many say, the footage does not show that the corner may be blind or that it was obstructed by the MMDA outpost, etc.

To pick one, it would be the SUV since he was entering Edsa but not slowing down or merging properly.

[Noel Salisipan]

Pero kung nagkabaliktad yund Taxi at SUV ng pinanggalingan (taxi sa u-turn, SUV sa Edsa) malamang kasalanan pa rin ng taxi.(grin)

Pambihira naman umaako ng pagkakamali pag dating sa kalsada, madalas yan turuan pa!