One dead over LED headlight argument

[noitimed]

I heard this over a radio station this morning. Apparently after the argument the two agreed to a gun duel. They went home and come back to the agreed meeting place and shot each other. Pathetic.

news link from inquirer:

The police said that Belen stopped his vehicle and confronted Cristobal, complaining about the glare coming from his motorcycle’s headlight.

The two got into an argument, resulting in both of them going to their homes and returning to the scene with their firearms.

Belen fired first, hitting Cristobal in the feet, apparently to teach him a lesson, according to Bustamante.

However, Cristobal, a professional shooter, retaliated by shooting him thrice in the chest. He then went to the Police Community Precinct Station 6 and gave himself up.

Read more: 1 dead, 1 wounded as gun owners argue | Inquirer News
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[_Cathy_]

sira ulo talaga yung motorcycle. Dapat siya yung namatay

[noitimed]

Both are college graduates; One is a Lawyer, the other one is an Engineer. Their respective EQ left them when they need it most. Between going home, getting their guns and shooting each other, what were they thinking?

[CVT]

Both are college graduates; One is a Lawyer, the other one is an Engineer. Their respective EQ left them when they need it most. Between going home, getting their guns and shooting each other, what were they thinking?

"It starts"




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[CVT]

Both are college graduates; One is a Lawyer, the other one is an Engineer. Their respective EQ left them when they need it most. Between going home, getting their guns and shooting each other, what were they thinking?

Who is the Lawyer?

Who is the Engineer?





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[noitimed]

Who is the Lawyer?

Who is the Engineer?





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Utas ang isang abogado nang pagbabarilin ng isang electrical engineer na naka*duwelo nito matapos magtalo ukol sa nakakasilaw na headlight ng motorsiklo ng suspek, kahapon ng mada-ling-araw sa Caloocan City.

Agad na nasawi dahil sa iba’t ibang tama ng bala ng kalibre .45 baril ang biktimang si Nelson Belen, ng Block 1 Lot 5 Cardion Street, Senate Village 1, Brgy. 173, ng naturang lungsod.

Nagtamo naman ng tama ng bala sa paa ang suspek na si Andy Cristobal, 43, isang Overseas Filpino Worker (OFW), at nakaratay ngayon sa Philippine Orthopedic Hospital sa Quezon City.

Sa ulat ng pulisya, minamaneho ng biktima ang kanyang Mitsubishi Pajero sa may Senate Avenue pauwi ng bahay dakong alas- 12:15 ng madaling-araw nang masilaw siya sa LED headlight ng kasalubong na motorsiklo na minamaneho ni Cristobal at angkas na si Joseph Ochona.

Kinompronta ng abogado ang suspek na nauwi sa mainitang pagtatalo. Umalis sa lugar ang dalawa at pareho ring bumalik na kapwa armado na ng baril.

[lichking616]

Both are college graduates; One is a Lawyer, the other one is an Engineer. Their respective EQ left them when they need it most. Between going home, getting their guns and shooting each other, what were they thinking?

bobo ng abugado

[DannyJr]

Both are college graduates; One is a Lawyer, the other one is an Engineer. Their respective EQ left them when they need it most. Between going home, getting their guns and shooting each other, what were they thinking?

A degree doesn't make one educated.

And lawyers are masters of rhetoric, not wisdom. People seem to conflate the two.

[xninjax]

Quick question:

Valid ba ang self-defense argument dun sa engineer since una cyang pinutukan based sa news article?

[MR_BIG18]

Quick question:

Valid ba ang self-defense argument dun sa engineer since una cyang pinutukan based sa news article?

is there a witness?

[DannyJr]

Quick question:

Valid ba ang self-defense argument dun sa engineer since una cyang pinutukan based sa news article?

Unlikely. Getting a gun shows malice, and returning to resume the argument constitute a duel. It doesn't matter who shoots first, if one dies the other will be charged with homicide. Even if no one dies, accepting a duel is a criminal offense.

Disclaimer: IANAL

[compact]

The incident happened because of an argument with a LED headlight, in which case I really do hope that there is lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself, otherwise, the claim of self defense will not stand.

[Ardand_1973]

The incident happened because of an argument with a LED headlight, in which case I really do hope that there is lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself, otherwise, the claim of self defense will not stand.

Sorry Sir but I beg to disagree on your own understanding as you only based this on the news report. I would like to comment on your post but I would choose not to in order not to divulge more information about the case.

But for clarification, the headlight incident was already over when the shooting incident happened.
Also, the headlight incident took place on another location where the shooting incident happened. Magkaiba po ang lugar na pinangyarihan nung dalawa incident hindi po katulad na isinulat sa inquirer article.

Based on investigation which the inq7 did not write, the Atty after the headlight incident went home and took his gun and roamed around the village to hunt down the motorcycle rider. Fortunately for me, I was riding my SUV that time since it was midnight and I need to take a long route back home after my visit to my friend (gates at closes at 12MN). This is why I was on my SUV. This is when he identified me as the motorcycle rider, then he fired his gun multiple time towards me, then I got hit on my leg and foot.

Now, if you will be on the same situation, what will you do???????? Isn't this SELF DEFENSE???

[Ardand_1973]

it seems like people were easily convinced by the news article that has been written to judge a person.
You do not know what really happened on this unfortunate event that almost cost a valuable life.
Things happened for a reason. Life is valuable and you need to protect it if someone tries to take it away from you.

[EQAddict]

Wtf. Everyone has a gun nowadays. This is idiotic. Idiots with guns.


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[_Cathy_]

I wouldn't expect anything good from confronting a person who has no sense of courtesy (judging from his glaring LED lights).

I also don't go by the saying "parang walang pinag aralan" as it implies that educated people are supposed to act better. The way a person acts is more about character, upbringing and family background. It makes me wonder how these 2 people were raised by their parents to be so violent

[CVT]

I wouldn't expect anything good from confronting a person who has no sense of courtesy (judging from his glaring LED lights).

I also don't go by the saying "parang walang pinag aralan" as it implies that educated people are supposed to act better. The way a person acts is more about character, upbringing and family background. It makes me wonder how these 2 people were raised by their parents to be so violent

That is the false "sense of entitlement" people have these days....

Just oooohhhhh soooooo oozing with it.... leading to such fatal decisions....


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[PJ Sinohin]

I wouldn't expect anything good from confronting a person who has no sense of courtesy (judging from his glaring LED lights). - very well said. eto ba yung statement na "hwag patulan / hwag ibaba ang level ng pag-iisip" . i just flash my high beam on them, letting them know they're wrong with their lights, but i won't open my window.

[Yatta]

Just this morning (~5AM) may nakasalubong ako na motorsiklo na naka-LED bar at ang lakas ng glare. I just put my HIDs to high and he turned off his LED bar leaving his stock halogen headlights on. I then turned my HL to low and we both went our own way.

[XTO]

Another pride lost