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  1. Join Date
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    #41
    Sa kotse kasi pag ginitgit ka o nasingitan at least aware ka sa kanila, unlike these scooters na out of nowhere biglang lilitaw, yun ang takaw aksidente

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    #42
    Tsktsk marami talgang scooterista/underboners na katarantaduhan ang ginagawa sa kalye.

    Eto 2 sa mga pinakatangang naranasan ko in the past 2 months

    1) sa intersection sa may metropolitan ave sa tabi ng Toyota Bel air. I was coming from SAV and was going tomake a left turn to that street along South Cemetery. Di pa ako nakakaumpisa lumiko, biglang may sumalubong na underboner sa may intersection mismo! So siempre, nagkandabohol-bohol yung traffic. Ginawa ko, sumenyas ako ng "ano ginagawa mo?!". In return, I got a "put*n* in* ka!" and a dirty finger. Haay, only in the Philippines?

    2) I was approaching an intersection and slowing down dahil yellow na yung ilaw. In front of me was a 10 foot gap between me and the car in front. What happens? As I am slowing down, this scooter overtakes on my RIGHT side and proceeds to squeeze in between me and the car in front of me..while braking! Wow pards, thanks for leaving me 2 feet to avoid hitting your stupid a$$.


    3) eto bonus kwento. Mga big bikers naman ito. Some friends of mine were cycling sa may laguna area. Sa isang rest stop, they come upon 2 big bikers in full armor...pero yung mga pokpoks na nakaangkas sa kanila, naka sando saka cap lang. Eventually, nauna na yung mg abig bikers. My friends leave after a few minutes...some kilometers down the road, they see a jeepney with one of the big bikes wedged under it. Kawawa naman yung naka angkas.

    Kaya wala akong awa sa mga naaaksidenteng naka underbone o scooter. 99% of those I see are very unsafe. Singit ng singit, singit sa right side while I am making a right turn. Singit sa left side while I am making a left turn. They are a bunch of dumbasses. I'm sure there are a few riders who are responsible, but I have only seen a handful. There was one rider I saw last night who was very safe..di sumisingit, staying in HER lane, and hindi harurut. Take not, BABAE pa yung nakita ko. Looks like she knew what she was doing..unlike the some of the female and mostly male scooteristas/underboners i see on the road.

  3. FrankDrebin Guest
    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    wow, almost everyone had a story to tell. Buti pa yung mga big bikes hindi mo makikita pasingit singit at mukhang disiplinado. Ive never encountered a bigbike na barumbado. laging underbones and scooters. Karamihan kasi ng mga naka ganyan mga below middle class kaya kulang sa pinag aralan, kulang din sa pag uunawa.Madali naman ma i-spot-an mga jologs na yan usually naka sando, slippers at shorts and no helmets. Parang national costume na nila ata yun hehehe. Madalas pag may kasabay ako sa daan na mga jologs underbones Ive always thought about sideswiping them, para mabawasan lahi nila. Well just a thought lang yun. Buti pa dati nung mahal pa ang motorsiklo yung mga ganyan patambay tambay lang sa lugar nila, ngayon nampeperwisyo na kahit saan.
    Mabigat kasi ang Bigbike kaya mahirap ipansingit sa slow traffic. Hehehe. Try niyong dumaan sa NLEX araw-araw. Magsasawa ka sa naka-bigbike na lane-splitting at 140KPH.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDrebin View Post
    Mabigat kasi ang Bigbike kaya mahirap ipansingit sa slow traffic. Hehehe. Try niyong dumaan sa NLEX araw-araw. Magsasawa ka sa naka-bigbike na lane-splitting at 140KPH.
    naka experience na rin ako ng ganyan... papunta na sana ako sa right lane... naka signal na ako... checked my mirrors... all clear.

    tapos may narinig ako... so hindi ako nag proceed. ayun... may nag lanesplit at 120kph. galing sa rightmost lane yung bigbike kaya hindi ko nakita. buti na lang hindi ko tinuloy kundi sandwich sya.

    sa star tollway ganyan din... pero aabutan mo din naman sila sa toll gate.

  5. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Hehehe. Sa Zambales National Highway, may nag-overtake sa amin na Harley Davidson-Hulk Hogan-lookalike-Caucasian rider with a Olongapo-picked-up girl as a backride. Kapit na kapit yung girl pati yung dalawang hita niya nakapalupot sa rider. None of them are wearing a helmet except for the leather chaleco for the guy. Our speed when they overtook us was 100kph. They must be doing a 130-150kph.

    The point is wala sa klase ng vehicle ang pagiging reckless. Nasa driver pa rin yan.

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    #46
    Parami na ng parami ang mga naka-motorsiklo and we should expect a lot more "near misses", accidents due to the undisciplined / discourteous drivers handling these bikes. Hindi ko po nilalahat and in fairness to those who have undergone trainings/seminars on safe motorcycle driving who are outnumbered by those who did not, meron pa rin matitino.

    Defensive driving lagi tayo!

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    #47
    pls lets not discriminate underbone riders. Taking about a big bike??? kanina lng po galing ako ng cainta pag pasok ko ng marcos highway nan dun lng ako sa may gitna biglang brooommmm may pumasok na big bike I think going about 100km/hr on TRAFFIC muntik na ako mahulog nakaka bigla ksi todo sinngit dapat hahabulin ko kso kasama ko nanay ko. Nsa motor din ako n2.
    talagang pinag masdan ko todo hataw talaga si loko khit sa my check point pa bangking bankig lng sya. na tatae cguro???

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    #48
    Kanina first time ako nakakita ng underbone na marunong mag interpret ng signal light hehehe.Nung nag signal ako pa left umovertake siya sa kanan, one way yung road and malapit ako sa bangketa sa kaliwa.kala ko nung una ipipilit pa nya, kakalat sana ang utak niya sa bangketa. May nabasa akong column before sa topgear by erle sebastian na title "those menace on 2 wheels" I actually agree with him kaso lang nag generalize siya, maybe hindi pa siya nakakakita ng disiplinadong naka motor. I dont blame him, sa araw araw ko sa daan you only see a disciplined rider probably 5% of the time.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    May nabasa akong column before sa topgear by erle sebastian na title "those menace on 2 wheels" I actually agree with him kaso lang nag generalize siya, maybe hindi pa siya nakakakita ng disiplinadong naka motor. I dont blame him, sa araw araw ko sa daan you only see a disciplined rider probably 5% of the time.
    I agree with you bratski. Erle Sebastian's article just did too much generalization. In my experience, however, from most underbone riders I see on a day-to-day basis, I rarely see a disciplined rider. (That's to add to the already many undisciplined private and public drivers on the road.) Every open space is apparently a signal for them to go ahead and barge their way through, not giving a rat's *$$ about the danger they are causing not only to the cars they're passing, but to themselves as well. But, hey, I do admit that there are disciplined riders (whether underbone or big bike), and it's unfortunate that these people get the blame for what irresponsible bike riders do.

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    #50
    o sa tapat ng Jools kanina may scooter na naaksidente.

    Malamang reckless kasi.

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    #51
    Last new year's day, on my way home around 3:30am i saw a body being loaded to a taxi sa may CP Garcia corner Katipunan (katipunan bound). Mukhang na-hit and run na rider. Wasak yung motor (looks liked a modded XRM) pero yung taxi wala namang tama so im assuming di sya ang other party sa crash. I stopped momentarily to see if there's anything i can do to help, when i saw na they can handle it, i then went home since i'm very sleepy.

    Anyway, para syang gulaman -literally. Di nila ma-derecho yung body papasok ng taxi, he keeps falling off. Bakit ganun?

    I was stunned because just about 30-40mins ago, i was passing by that road (in opposite direction since pumunta akong Cainta) with my hazard on because of the VERY low visibility (due to 12mn firecracker SMOG) as in mga 10ft lang at most kaya kailangan medyo mabagal takbo mo. So i was wondering paanong may naaksidente ng ganun ka-grabe. Pwedeng may reckless 4-wheeler na nakabangga sa kanya or vice versa. But really, it's a no-brainer na pag wala kang makita you SHOULDN'T go fast.

    I felt sad for the family of that guy. They faced the new year with a dead loved one.

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    #52
    One night, I was about to turn left onto a main road coming from a side street. May bus na nakaparada sa kanto, kaya todo-ingat ako sa pagliko. I already had my hood halfway into the main road when a tandem-riding motorcycle duo suddenly popped from my left headed towards me. Akala ko talaga head-on collision na, buti na lang naka-preno agad kami. The two teenaged nitwits were not wearing helmets at the time, and they were doing at least 100kph on a one-way street.

    Eto pa. A co-worker of mine was on his way to his parents sa Antipolo. At the time, inaayos pa yung stretch ng Sumulong Highway sa tapat ng Valley Golf, so medyo one lane lang yung paakyat. Ayun siya, nakapila kasama ang mga trucks at jeepneys nang may biglang sumingit na ilang mga motorcycle riders, mga walang helmet at hataw ang takbo. Eh wala, slow-moving yung traffic, hayaan na lang. Eventually, nakarating na siya sa may PNP checkpoint approaching MMLDC. Nung palabas na siya ng checkpoint, he recognized one of the bikes he saw earlier, nakahiga na sa kalsada. Yung rider, nakaupo sa isang tabi, mukhang hilo. May isang FX taxi driver na nakikipag-usap sa mga pulis, saying na bigla na lang daw sumingit yung motor sa kanan niya, hindi na siya naka-preno agad. Pareho na lang kaming natawa sa kwento niya; two-wheeled idiot gets instant karma.

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    #53
    Bogeyman,
    the irony of this is that may dinadamay pa sila sa kagaguhan nila. It might be karma for them kaso kawawa yung nakabangga sa kanila, i think he will be made to shoulder the expenses of these moron singit boys. In this situation who is at fault? ang sumingit o yung nasingitan? assuming of course na ang nakabangga ay yung siningitan dahil too late to brake na?

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by jasprit View Post
    pls lets not discriminate underbone riders. Taking about a big bike??? kanina lng po galing ako ng cainta pag pasok ko ng marcos highway nan dun lng ako sa may gitna biglang brooommmm may pumasok na big bike I think going about 100km/hr on TRAFFIC muntik na ako mahulog nakaka bigla ksi todo sinngit dapat hahabulin ko kso kasama ko nanay ko. Nsa motor din ako n2.
    talagang pinag masdan ko todo hataw talaga si loko khit sa my check point pa bangking bankig lng sya. na tatae cguro???
    kundi mo kasama ermat mo malamang inabutan mo iyon ..hehehe

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    #55
    noong isang araw yata yun, sa may pioneer, malapit dun sa metro badminton court.. sa kakasingit sa kanan ayun, expedition ang nadali nya, parang unggoy yung rider sa kakakamot ng ulo..

    naka motor din ako one time sa may pioneer cor united naman, about to turn left na ako papuntang crossing, wait ko na lang signal ng enforser to take left, pag ka signal nya, takbo ako agad kasi ang bibilis ng mga sasakyan sa likod ko, aba! ito walang helemt na rider saap ng pwesto sa right lane kong saan ako dadaan..

    tapos kanina lang buendia cor paseo, galing ako ng kalayaan speeding at 90-95kph while approaching yung left turn papuntang paseo slowdown ako to 80kph kita ko malayo pa stop ang mga sasakyan, noong banking na ako, aba! biglang abante tong mokong na rider..

    delikado talaga mostly ng mga bikers, singit dito singit doon, kaya ako, dalawang lang kung may kasabay akong mga motor, either bibilisan ko or magpapaiwan ako, pero mostly binibilisan ko, mas safe yung mabilis ka at magisa keysa daming motor na katabi habang tumatakbo.. daming hindi marunong gumamit ng side mirror...

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    #56
    Actually, konti lang ang may side mirror.

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Actually, konti lang ang may side mirror.
    Yep. Some are probably making it an excuse for not seeing you right behind them, thus they still keep on weaving in and out of lanes.

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    #58
    Actually it's not just the sheer recklessness of these motorcyclists that's disgusting, but also the noise that they make in the process. A lot of these bikes are fitted with mufflers that actually seem to amplify the exhaust noise. Together with the 2-stroke tricycles which are notorious smokebelchers, these underbone noise polluters are a real nuisance to our neighborhood.

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Actually, konti lang ang may side mirror.
    minsan, meron nga, but it's so close to the body ng bike, natatakpan din naman niya yung view, so walang kwenta. gahk.

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    #60
    nakow, ako din muntik na masingitan ng motor....pero sa gasolinahan! nakasunod ako sa isang oto na nagpapa gas(isa lang kse unleaded na pump dun sa gas station), kasama ko misis ko. nagkwekwentuhan kami tapos biglang may pumuntang motor sa harapan namin(yellow xrm), may angkas na babae, so bigla kaming nag pay attention ng misis ko, tinitingnan namin kung ano gagawin. Ung pagkakaporma pa ng oto namin e halatang nakapila ha, kse nakaliko na ung gulong namin e, mga 1 1/2 dipa ang layo namin dun sa otong nagpapagas. Tapos bumaba ung babae, nagtanggal ng helmet at parang may binubulong sa kasama, hinala namin ni misis e cnasabihan ung kasama na nakapila ung oto sa likod(kami un!) bah e matigas pa din ata ulo, pagka alis nung oto sa harapan biglang ipinark ung motor sa tapat ng pumping station....so mejo nairita ako(galing long drive e, at less than a km na lang bahay na namin tapos mabwi bwisit ka pa), so pinatikim ko sya ng NFL horn(mga dalawang sandaling pot pot lang to get his attention, para kse kaming invisible e ang laki laki ng nakapila)...tumabi nman at parang mejo nagtaas pa ng kamay(sorry?!) sa kabilang side nagpa gas c kolokoy, tapos sabay kami paalis ng gas station, nung asa road na kami, nag signal ako na magle left na, bah ang motor, dumaan sa left side ko at nakatingin ng masama tsk tsk...napahiya cguro dun sa kasamang tsik...pinabayaan ko na lang, ilang metro na lang bahay na namin e.

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