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    #1
    Post ko lang to vent my frustrations:

    - Busina nang busina, ayaw gamitin muna brakes.. And WANGWANG...GRRR!
    - Using BRIGHT Lights kahit naka tail gate na. Everyday na lang sa NLEX, di ba nila alam na nakakasilaw sila??? Duh?
    - Bullying pedestrians on ped xing. Dahil ba hindi kayang bumili ng cars yung iba, pwede na nating businahan o pinahan??
    - Changing/cutting lanes without signalling.
    - using the fone while driving. twice nako nabiktima nito, binunggo ako sa likod kasi nagtetext.

    Just wanted to post this kasi we may be guilty of some of these and ma realize sana natin na mali ito. It's never too late to change. And when I drive abroad, these are mostly non-existent. Ang babait ng drivers abroad (at least to the places i've been to) and pagbumabalik ako dito, na gagaya ko yung good traits nila. Hope I can help influence to improve pinoy drivers' qualities in my own small way. tsikoteers, sana we start instilling road courtesy everytime.

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    toyboxph: I, like the rest of us who chose to stay in this country, share the same aspirations with you. There is still hope. It should start with ourselves. How about this forum?

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    yes, precisely my intention why i posted this. in our small way, maybe we can put some changes. guilty ako din on some of them.

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    Baka ako yung naka-bright at naka-tailgate sa NLEX. Ayaw kasi magsialis sa passing lane (hindi naman dapat magbabad dun), eh. hehehe. Malayo pa lang ako sumesensyas na ko. Ayan nakadikit na ko, hindi pa din tumatabi. Eng-eng ata ang tawag sa ganun. Hindi ako yun may wang-wang, kulay pula yun. hehehe.

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    Left lane is a passing lane and its just for that. But also, flashing your headlights from low to high beam on the driver in front of you only escalate the situation specially at night. Try the other way, turning off your headlight for a second sometime work a lot better, and also when you ask for them to move aside, your asking for a courtesy move, they don't have to move out of the left lane. And its just that Courtesy

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    So they can just spend the whole day there if they don't want to be courteous?

    Isn't blocking the passing lane a violation of the NLEX rules?

    I don't really flash my lights, I just give them a once-over (pull and release) as well as continuously flash my inboard (driver's side) turn signal to indicate that I intend to pass. Kapag ayaw talaga, I show them my brand of 'courtesy'.

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    otep, hindi ikaw yun, alam ko license plates mo UKE###. hehehe. kahit wala ako sa passing lane, naka bright pa din. man, do they think??

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    Well, if opportunity arises pass them on the right lane. I've seen some drivers that tail other drivers on left lane even thought the right lane next to them is open, just to make a point. Then, what are you accomplishing? the driver in front of you is either terrified or extremely piss, and now they are not paying attention in front of them but rather the jerkbrain behind them.
    Last edited by lakay; August 7th, 2006 at 11:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakay
    Well, if opportunity arises pass them on the right lane. I've seen some drivers that tail other drivers on left lane even thought the right lane next to them is open, just to make a point. Then, what are you accomplishing? the driver in front of you is either terrified or extremely piss, and now they are not paying attention in front of them but rather the jerkbrain behind them.
    Germans also do that in the autobahn.

    They shouldn't be camping out in the passing lane in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Germans also do that in the autobahn.
    I really hate it when vehicles go behind you in the fast lane and flash their lights esp if you're running the speed limit or following another overtaking vehicle in front of you. I've observed the Germans on autobahn when I had a chance to go ther a few years ago. They are very 'anal' about the fast lane. But one thing I noticed is, they rarely flash their lights to say they're coming from behind which is a good thing. They always give a chance for the car in front of them, to get back to the slow lane which is very rare in the Philippines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radical! View Post
    I really hate it when vehicles go behind you in the fast lane and flash their lights esp if you're running the speed limit or following another overtaking vehicle in front of you. I've observed the Germans on autobahn when I had a chance to go ther a few years ago. They are very 'anal' about the fast lane. But one thing I noticed is, they rarely flash their lights to say they're coming from behind which is a good thing. They always give a chance for the car in front of them, to get back to the slow lane which is very rare in the Philippines.
    Sir, hindi na po 'fast lane' iyon ngayon. It is now called the 'Passing Lane'. Running at the speed limit does not give us the divine right to set up camp there.

    Btw, flashing your high beams is an internationally recognized symbol of one's intention to pass. I don't know why Pinoys are peeved about it. That is why the control stalk has a 'FLASH TO PASS' (that is how it is even described in some owner's manuals) function on it. In the Autobahn, they flash only if the vehicle in front WILL NOT yield (which is more often the case here). The 'big boys' (the ones in souped up Porsches and hot rod Benzes) also flash their left turn signals (visible from the driver's side external mirror of vehicle in front) to indicate that they are haulin' *ss and that the one in front should move out of the passing lane ASAP.

    If you get flashed, there's no harm in moving aside. Believe me as I used to drive one of the slowest vehicles on the road (top speed 100kph) and have gotten pretty much used to letting everyone pass. The only time I step into the fast lane is to overtake slower vehicles or those gravel trucks that pelt me with their cargo. And if you cannot immediately vacate the passing lane, the next best thing to do would be to flash your right hand turn signal to indicate that you have recognized their intention to pass and will yield at the next possible opportunity.

    I know na marami ngang t*nga sa daan. But I think we should at least try to do the right things ourselves.

    Btw, people who set up camp in the left lane are not called LEFT LANE BANDITS for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radical! View Post
    I really hate it when vehicles go behind you in the fast lane and flash their lights esp if you're running the speed limit or following another overtaking vehicle in front of you. I've observed the Germans on autobahn when I had a chance to go ther a few years ago. They are very 'anal' about the fast lane. But one thing I noticed is, they rarely flash their lights to say they're coming from behind which is a good thing. They always give a chance for the car in front of them, to get back to the slow lane which is very rare in the Philippines.
    I drive in the NLEX everyday - as what OTEP said - it is a passing lane and not a fast lane.

    Even when I am doing just between 80-90kph (tipid mode) in the rightmost lane - I can still pass many vehicles camped out in the leftmost lane. That's how slow some of these passing lane huggers are.

    If you don't flash the vehicle in front of you - chances are that it won't give way, believe me. It will be just content to camp out there thinking that the passing lane is the safest route (where in fact it is not since the runoff / shoulder area is farther when you experience an emergency).

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    It's just to let them know they should not be there. Siyempre kung ayaw umalis nilulusutan ko na sa kanan and I look for the nearest highway patrol unit to have the vehicle apprehended.

    There was even one time when the left lane bandit had a FOR SALE sign on the rear window. Kaya tinawagan ko na at pinalayas ko from the left lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    It's just to let them know they should not be there. Siyempre kung ayaw umalis nilulusutan ko na sa kanan and I look for the nearest highway patrol unit to have the vehicle apprehended.

    There was even one time when the left lane bandit had a FOR SALE sign on the rear window. Kaya tinawagan ko na at pinalayas ko from the left lane.
    natawa ko! nakakuha pa ng phone pal si doc. :lol:

    kakainis talaga yung mga ayaw umalis sa left lane, eh di kaya nila nababasa sa lahat ng tulay sa nlex may nakalagay na "overtaking lane" yon!

    dapat maunawaan nila na mas safe for both the one overtaking and the one being overtaken kung sa left lane kasi malaki blind spot sa kanan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    It's just to let them know they should not be there. Siyempre kung ayaw umalis nilulusutan ko na sa kanan and I look for the nearest highway patrol unit to have the vehicle apprehended.
    Related but slightly different situation is when someone violates a rule but you are not directly affected or inconvenienced. Example: someone runs a red light --- anyway the intersection is clear and there is no enforcer.

    Do you: a) honk horn to make them aware that at least someone disapproves; b) do nothing. Of course, most people do nothing, so the behavior becomes an accepted way of life --- no one objects or cares, so it is tacitly approved.

    Every now and then, I instinctively do a) but wonder why I should bother.

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    If you're drivin, always use your headset so you've got two hands free.

    Pedestrians are also children of God, be nice to them.

    DO not text.

    Follow the wave of the traffic. If you don't you'll get bumped.

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    Supposedly, Filipinos are good at observing - copying - adopting from other cultures, e.g., fashion, trends, design, etc.

    I always wonder why after more than half a century of exposure, the one thing they have not copied is the 4-way stop sign, or at least the simple principle behind it.

    Was it martial law that did it ... broke the trust - respect for other - concept of fairness?
    300+ years of being under Spanish rule ... warped the psyche?
    All of the above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2fee
    Supposedly, Filipinos are good at observing - copying - adopting from other cultures, e.g., fashion, trends, design, etc.

    I always wonder why after more than half a century of exposure, the one thing they have not copied is the 4-way stop sign, or at least the simple principle behind it.

    Was it martial law that did it ... broke the trust - respect for other - concept of fairness?
    300+ years of being under Spanish rule ... warped the psyche?
    All of the above?
    the answer is really simple. kahit gano ka ka-edukado, nagtapos ng kolehiyo, o masters degree pag nakasama mo sa kalye mga walang pinag-aralan driver ng bus, jeep, truck lalabas animal instinct mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    the answer is really simple. kahit gano ka ka-edukado, nagtapos ng kolehiyo, o masters degree pag nakasama mo sa kalye mga walang pinag-aralan driver ng bus, jeep, truck lalabas animal instinct mo
    ako di lumalabas ung animal instinct ko. linalabas ko ung 'tubo' ko, pag meron
    matigas ulo jan.

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    Yung mentality na: 'I know its wrong but since everybody is doing it, I'm doing it too.' Hindi lang sa driving kundi pati sa buong sociedad na rin.

    Frankly, I think that this mentality has been tolerated so much for so long that it has led to the unique situation that it is the law-abiding ones that are the minority. Thus, it is the law-abiding ones that get in-convinienced, or frustrated, in any situation. Why should I be when I am the one following the law?

    That is one of the reasons why I have left the country. I cannot live in a society that punishes the good and rewards the bad. Nor can I let my children grow up in one.

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