how would you assess this?

[jazcker]

mga sir, how would you assess this?

a car is running on the main road...not too fast yet not too slow.
approximately 50ft ahead there was an intersection, on it is a L300 contemplating to cross.
the car sounded its horn several times yet the L300 decided to cross.
the driver of the car stepped on the brakes hardly but the car skid because of the heavy rain.
after half of the L300 body had passed the double yellow line its bumper and of that car collided. it's the car that bumped to the L300.

now, whose fault it was?

[carbomb]

i think both of them are "guilty" he he he. seriously, both of them sana nagbigay para no problem.

[baker123]

the car that bumped the L300 is at fault because he was the one that bumped.

the car should have driven slow already by the time it was honking the horn and seeing the l300 ahead maybe braking or swerving. by this, it means the bumping car was the aggressive car because he honked and didnt brake earlier (meaning not defensive driving).

oh yea. the l300 can also say. "tailgating" si bumping car. kaya nga usually pag may banggaan e laging may sala yung tumumbok.


jazcker kayo po ba yung bumping car? peace tayo ha. hehehe

[hominid]

Right of way un car eh. Mukang mabilis kasi nag skid na nga eh. Saka 50ft, ang lapit na nun.

Hindi ba na-assess nun L300 na mabilis un car at sumugod pa rin cya? Kung talagang susugod cya, dapat cgurado nyang makakapasok cya ng mabilis para d cya abutin.

Kaya ako pag pumapasok sa main road inaantay kong clear talaga dahil wala ako sa right of way at baka d na kayanin sa break un padating na mabilis na sasakyan.

Alam kong usual na me sala un nasa likod, pero sa mga penalties ng LTO, wala un.

[Memphis Raines]

Both parties should have exercised proper and safe distance proximity given that both have seen each other moments before collision.

I think it's a case of both "assuming" too much from the other party.

A very avoidable accident.

Tough luck.

[mommyblue]

:dunno:.. both of them should have slowed down especially the car kahet na right of way pa nya because IMO that's the rule whenever you come across an intersection.. and whenever i encounter incidents like this tapos ako kunwari yung driver ng car, i always practice safe driving by slowing down and assumes na pipilitin talaga tumawid nung other car before i can pass.. importante talaga na nakaalalay sa brakes just in case may pasaway like the L300 na pipilitin talaga lumusot.. kung makikipag-matigasan ka kasi sa mga pasaway na driver.. naku! magkakasubukan lang kayo..

dati rin kasi akong pasaway and i learned my lesson the hard way.. i lost my first car (when i was still in college) dahil sa same incident na ikinwento ng thread starter.. total wrecked! .. buti na lang nothing happened to me coz the seat belt law has just been implemented a month before the accident..

:fyi: lang po, i won the case.. got my car fixed and gained a P100T more, although i sold my car immediately.. galing ng abogado ng daddy ko eh..

[wildthing]

generally all intersections without stoplight is considered a stop-look-go situation....if you have driven in subic you know what I mean. it is not an issue on "who is in the main road has the right of way of priority".

the first one to arrive (should stop) at the intersection and also have the right to be the first one to go.

so in your case, it is already the L300's right of way. the speeding car was stupid (SIC) for NOT STOPPING on that intersection.

now if it is a T-section, the main road serves the right to go. those coming from the feeder road should stop before turning (left or right) as a rule.

[jazcker]

the car that bumped the L300 is at fault because he was the one that bumped.
the car should have driven slow already by the time it was honking the horn and seeing the l300 ahead maybe braking or swerving. by this, it means the bumping car was the aggressive car because he honked and didnt brake earlier (meaning not defensive driving).

oh yea. the l300 can also say. "tailgating" si bumping car. kaya nga usually pag may banggaan e laging may sala yung tumumbok.

jazcker kayo po ba yung bumping car? peace tayo ha. hehehe

ako nga po yun nagda-drive ng car!

the first one to arrive (should stop) at the intersection and also have the right to be the first one to go.

i am used to this rule since i had worked in an industrial park where such traffic rule is strictly implemented. i just don't know what really happened that night. well, accidents really do happen.

so in your case, it is already the L300's right of way. the speeding car was stupid (SIC) for NOT STOPPING on that intersection.

OUCH! ang sakit naman! it's not really that fast. i couldn't be running more than 60kph that time since kabisado ko ang daan at alam ko nga na may intersection dun! it's just that it's already too close for the car to stop since the road is wet. anyway, it's my fault as most of you say.


i've been driving for years but it's my first time to be involved in an accident! that's why i ask for your sides. now, i learned from that experience. i should be MORE careful! thanks folks!

kalalabas lang kahapon ng tsikot ko sa talyer. we're together again! kaya lang ang sakit na naman ng bulsa ko!

[lipot]

Question lang po... Wala bang traffic light or traffic police dun sa intersection na yun?

[jaspi11]

yung bumangga ang me kasalanan..........pero kung sa harapan nabangga ang l300 ang l300 ang me kasalanan dun

[empy]

onga, may konting kulang sa description ng scenario. were there a stop light or stop signs in the intersection. if so, madali lang malaman kung sino ang may right of way. yung walang right of way yung may kasalanan, although it would be foolish for the car with right of way to insist on it, to the point of causing an accident...

kung walang lights or signs, i think it should be considered a 4-way stop, as wildthing mentioned.

[kinyo]

on equal-road intersections without lights or signs, the car on the right has the right of way (for left-hand drive)

but defensive driving dictates that when approaching an intersection, always decelerate to the point of stopping whenever another vehicle is on sight

[VtEC]

sa rear na tinamaan kaya yong nagbump ang me kasalanan while kung sa harap yong l300 ang may sala.pero sabi nga e, kung crossing yan at walang stop light, kung sino man ang nauna sa junction sya priority na mag go ahead which is apllied naman kahit saan kung alam mo talaga batas trapiko.

[mbeige]

Be extra careful in the rain. Hard to determine other vehicle speeds as well as yours, let alone your braking distance.

Alam mo naman sa atin, even if people know the right of way, nobody ever follows that. Next time you know better. Just play it safe, iwas gulo pa yan.

[the_wildthing]

Anong kalye/intersection? Is it a city street? Highway?

Kasi kung umuulan at 60 ang takbo mo sa city street then dun pa lang alangan na - too fast for the current conditions.