Erring motorists who flashes calling cards should be looked as goons too right?

[froshie1]

So sa mga may calling cards dyan ni ganito ni ganire... ano bang may kapangyarihan at authority doon sa calling cards? Can you please enlighten me ano ang power behind those calling cards? Like for example:

Traffic enforcer flags you down because you violate a traffic law then you showed a calling card. Then sa madaling salita ang calling card mo naging "so what kung may calling card ka?" Ano ngayon ang next course of action ninyong mga may calling cards dyan?

Iyong mga sasagot dito not necessarily practices this kind of corrupt action pero kung may kakilala kayong gumagawa nito pwede na din kayong sumagot.. Just wondering paano kung iyong traffic cop ay ginagawa lang nya ang trabaho nya?

[froshie1]

mods paki change ng subject at baka lang may mag react. di pwedeng ma-edit ang subject eh.. paki lagyan nal ang ng Erring before motorists. So subject should be like this

Erring motorists who flashes calling cards should be looked as goons too right. Paki change "treated" to "looked" and "a goon" to "as goons".

[tidus1203]

Its part of the palakasan culture. It shows you know this and that guy so if you get caught you will direct the com[laint to that person and possibly get the enforcer fired.

[Taurus]

I agree.

This is no diffirence on those private vehicles having sirens and flashers. They think that they are exempted on traffic rules.

OT: I would just want to point out that this is one reason why we have these kind of forums from which the main goal is to discipline these drivers and follow the very basic rules of the road.

[redeemed]

ahhh... ito pala uso ngayon. may nagsabi kasi sa akin na tinataas nya lang daw calling card nya pag-nasisita sya ng traffic enforcers. hmmm.... hirap kasi dito sa atin.. gumawa ka ng matuwid ikaw pa kawawa, dahil sa mga may "powers". kaya yung matuwid na mga enforcers wala magawa.

[Stoner]

I feel like the calling card approach started out as a method to protect motorists from corrupt traffic enforcers inventing all sorts of imaginary violations, but then was abused under that hands of people without moral fiber. *sigh*

[mailboxck]

Sa likod ng calling card usually may nakasulat din na "Extends privileges to the holder of this car" sabay pirma nung may ari ng calling card.

[sgt_taga]

i've seen one sa kaibigan ko. he has a calling card of a police colonel yata. when you flip the card, nakalagay sa likod eh "please extend courtesy and assistance to ..." then me pirma nung officer.

sa pananaw ko, there's nothing wrong with it kung hindi aabusuhin. meaning... kung mahuli ka man at me legitimate na violation ka, dapat ka pa rin tratuhin ng maayos nung nanghuhuli. ngayon, alam naman natin na madaming mga nanghuhuli ang medyo me kabastusan at arogante. so yung card eh could serve as a reminder lang sa mga nanghuhuli, then. ngayon, kung nangingikil naman, then well and good kase yung card will deter yung katiwalian nila.

however, kung yung card eh gagamitin para makalusot sa mga violation, then mali talaga yun at dapat eh ipatupad ang batas nung enforcer.

then again, di natin alam kung ano ang internal arrangements ng kapulisan sa atin tungkol dito sa mga calling card na ito. sana lang eh wag talagang abusuhin ng mga nagmamaneho to.

ang di ko siguro mas masisikmura eh yung mga puv drivers na meron nito. imagine eh yung mga bus, jeepney, taxi, tricycle, etc. driver na laging abusado sa kalye eh magiging imune sa traffic rules?

[AnK]

pera na diretso pakita sa mga enforcers hinde na uso calling cards.

[kishAn]

i guess you can use it to protect your self from abussive traffic enforcer

[dale323]

I have one of these calling cards. Actually, bigay sa akin ng tito ko. Never used it since sumusunod ako sa traffic laws. Kaya din ako binigyan nito kasi proteksyon sa abusado. Hindi mo kasi alam kung kelan ka makakaencounter ng mga patolang traffic enforcer/police. Pero never ko pa naisip gamitin to para makatakas sa traffic violation/s.

[Reepicheep]

I have cards of various congressmen and military officials tucked in my license jacket. I just keep them handy so those erring officers know that if they slap questionable offenses/extort on me, they will get fu&*$*! Ticket kung ticket!

[RedHotBlood]

Be sure lang na yung nakapangalan sa calling card eh "mataas na opisyal" like ng PNP (Chief, Regional Director or Provincial Director, etc) or DOTC kung hindi baka mapahiya pa yung gagamit. Minsan pag fellow law enforcer naman at kahit auxillary units pinagbibigyan din nila basta di arogante. Happened to me at Slex (unintentionally). I was flagged down for using the shoulder but it's because i'm exiting the next toll. he ask for my license and told me my violation, he reasoned that i was still a kilometer away from the exit, didn't arque anymore and handed my license (forgot that my coastguard aux id was there) after a few steps he went back and said "sir pareho pala tayong enforcer, ingat na lang ho." I smiled back and said it won't happened again.

[mazzipino]

I agree with the TS.

It's easy to point the blame at the dodgy and corrupt traffic enforcers, but what if I blatently did something illegal for example, doing a U-Turn when it clearly says No U-Turn then when I'm flagged down by an enforcer I show a calling card - that just makes me seem as if I am beyond the law and have no respect for rules and regulations.

Regardless of local culture, drivers need to take the heat and drive responsibly and drive disciplined.

[froshie1]

Be sure lang na yung nakapangalan sa calling card eh "mataas na opisyal" like ng PNP (Chief, Regional Director or Provincial Director, etc) or DOTC kung hindi baka mapahiya pa yung gagamit. Minsan pag fellow law enforcer naman at kahit auxillary units pinagbibigyan din nila basta di arogante. Happened to me at Slex (unintentionally). I was flagged down for using the shoulder but it's because i'm exiting the next toll. he ask for my license and told me my violation, he reasoned that i was still a kilometer away from the exit, didn't arque anymore and handed my license (forgot that my coastguard aux id was there) after a few steps he went back and said "sir pareho pala tayong enforcer, ingat na lang ho." I smiled back and said it won't happened again.

Are you saying that mataas na opisyal = above the law na? And if magalang na aux units eh above na law na din? Something is wrong there, don't you think?

*tidus, this shows that this culture of ours (palakasan that is) is really effed up.

[CVT]

Dapat talaga, tamang pagpapatupad sa batas at walang palakasan system....

9505:spam:

[Haruto]

I believe this is a gray area. IMHO if you don't abuse the priveledge it entails its OKAY (I think the calling card thing came to be to protect certain individuals from erring traffic enforcers/police/kotong cops). but if you knowingly break rules just because you know you would be let go.. well that would be another matter.

[vito corleone]

i've seen cases where the use of calling cards is being abused. . .one time, there was this driver of a mid-size suv who made a u-turn in santolan road infront of crame, where it is illegal. . .when summoned to stop by the traffic officer, i saw him took out a calling card and showed it to the traffic officer. . .nakakaasar makakita ng ganito, di ba?

[pransis]

Naalala ko yung incident ko nung college. Pauwi na ko galing school, so pumara ako ng jeep papuntang SM North. Mga ilang meters pa lang ang tinatakbo e pinara ng Traffic Enforcer or LTO yung jeep na sinasakyan ko (di ko alam yung traffic violation, malamang beating the red light or no loading/unloading ). After a few minutes of bargaining e kinausap kami ng officers at pinababa lahat ng pasahero. Yun pala e ang lisensya nung driver ng jeep e photocopy ng expired na lisensya nya accompanied by a calling card ng isang mataas na Police official.

Kudos to those officers for apprehending the erring driver. They never yielded their duties as laws enforcers just because of a piece of calling card .

[skyglider]

pwede bang sabihin half guilty ako dito.

when we started our driving days eh syempre we are prone to commit mistakes. kaya binigyan ako ni utol ng calling card at id nya para proteksyon daw sa mga extortionist na enforcers.

one time nga hinuli ako for swerving daw eh ang ingat ko nga pag change lane at nag signal pa ko. alam ko mangongotong lang kasi lunch time so i talk to them nicely. kinuha pa rin ng pulis yun DL ko, inalis dun sa lalagyan na kasama ng calling card, tapos pinakita dun sa kasama nya. akala ko nga titiketan ako kasi wala ako intensyon na maglagay. binalik naman without issuing a ticket.

now, i'm a smarter and courteous driver. thanks to tsikot forum and my experience driving outside the country.