color coding.. hassle???

[docchris]

The Philippines is a arguably a "poor" nation so therefore what would be good for the masses would always outweigh the good of the few, in this case "few" pertains to private vehicle owners who bring their vehicles to work on a daily basis. So as Dr. Kamiya had pointed out, PUVs occupy roughly the same space on the roads as private vehicles and can ferry more travellers/passeners than a four-seater car. If one looks at EDSA's gridlock during rush hour, private vehicles far outnumber public utility vehicles. This may or may not be the case in other major roads, though.

In a country where having a private vehicle is a luxury and not a necessity, drastically lowering the number of public transport vehicles plying the roads would have an adverse effect on the lives of people. Case in point: a three day PUV strike or the government cutting down 30% of PUVs plying their on a daily basis. While some of the private vehicle owners out there shout "Hurrah! No traffic!", a lot of the commuting public would not be reaching their destinations. Some of the effects are: production slowdowns/delays because workers are not able to report to work, children being left behind class subjects because they were not able to go to school or being late for school, people loosing potential job placements because they did not arrive at interviews, a poor pregnant housewife loosing her child because she had no PUV to flag down and so on.

However, I do agree that something must be done to ease traffic along major thoroughfares and that something has to be done to improve traffic discipline of all motorists, regardless if one drives a private vehicle or a PUV.

If and when an improved coding scheme would be applied in the future, I think is should be applicable to all types of vehicles on the road - no exceptions.

Question: Are you a lawyer? Or do you just write really well..hehehe...enjoyed reading that...parang after that...CASE CLOSED!
hahaha

[oldblue]

gawin salary system mga PUV drivers hindi boundary system luluwag yan

[froshie1]

As mentioned by oldblue "Gawin salary system mga PUV drivers".

Other suggestions..

1.) Wag muna mangurakot ang mga kawatan sa gobyerno at isipin muna ang bayan. Gumawa ng isang matinding infrastructure para masupportahan ang problema sa city kagaya ng traffic.

Infra like - unmanned/intelligent traffic lights.
- well paved roads with CLEAR lanes.
- sapat na gamit sa mga traffic cops para hulihin ang mga bwisit na motorista.
- centralized database info para sa mga drivers nila mala DMV at HP ng US.
- traffic signages.

Taasan ang traffic fines iyong tipong 4k pag beating the red light, 10k pag one way. Pero syempre dapat lahat na ng kinakailangan na infrastructure ay nakahanda bago iimplement ang mga matitinding fines.

Kung di lang kasi nangungurakot ang mga taong nakaupo sa gobyerno at inuuna ang bayan marami sana tayong gamit para masupportahan ang mga ganitong mga bagay. Talamak na talaga ang pagnanakaw.

Tignan nyo peeps. Meron naman dito sa atin may mga bonuses na natatanggap diba? At syempre kung may bonus may tax. Tignan ninyo kung ilan iyong nakaltas sa tax, langya ang laki diba? Bonus pa lang yan, paano na iyong mga 15/30 na sweldo pati VAT. Maraming pera dito!!! Ninanakaw lang!

[nicolodeon]

Question: Are you a lawyer? Or do you just write really well..hehehe...enjoyed reading that...parang after that...CASE CLOSED!
hahaha

Thanks for the complement. I'm neither of both. Let's just say that I have a way with the written and oral word. ;)

[1D4LV]

The only solution is to discipline the drivers. The number of jeepneys, busses, Tamaraw FX's, etc is adequate enough. The problem, is that they cannot even pull over properly to yield to passing motorists. This is what causes the traffic jams when somebody doesn't pull over properly, the rear bumper juts out, so the people behind slow down, creating a chain of events that leads to long queues. Buti rin sana if people wanting to make a U turn prepare ahead of time so that they do not directly cut passing motorists. Thing is they enter the main thoroughfare and then proceed to cut several lanes of traffic just so they can enter the U turn slots. The U turn slot idea was OK if and only if motorists know how to yield to passing motorists and enter only when safe. Kaya when it comes to slow moving traffic, people cut left and right just to get to their destination.

Again when it comes to discipline, look at those who split lanes. The U turn slot effectively negates lanes already, making driving in a straight line virtually impossible since people tend to drive in a skewed manner. That's why people cannot speed up and that's why it slows things down.

And when MMDA personnel see that motorists cut others off they just let it be. This makes motorists think that it's OK to do that so they continue to do so, and hence nothing improves. Plus we all know the kotong cops na kumukuha ng lagay sa mga PUV's para di sila ma-apprehend. It's all a vicious cycle.

That's why any potential solution won't work if we don't start with ourselves. The solutions thrown into the fray were just band-aids to temporarily ease traffic, not really to cure its problem.

i really would agree with this, enforcement of traffic rules and not limiting the number of public utility vehicles on the road, is the key....

why? remember, there are more people who commute daily from and to work and do not own vehicles. they rely on public transporation too much that if you limit them, you limit the productivity of these people. consider also the fact that our public utility infrastructure is not that good to compare lets say with Japan, Singapore or HK.

[danesjr]

The Philippines is a arguably a "poor" nation so therefore what would be good for the masses would always outweigh the good of the few, in this case "few" pertains to private vehicle owners who bring their vehicles to work on a daily basis. So as Dr. Kamiya had pointed out, PUVs occupy roughly the same space on the roads as private vehicles and can ferry more travellers/passeners than a four-seater car. If one looks at EDSA's gridlock during rush hour, private vehicles far outnumber public utility vehicles. This may or may not be the case in other major roads, though.

In a country where having a private vehicle is a luxury and not a necessity, drastically lowering the number of public transport vehicles plying the roads would have an adverse effect on the lives of people. Case in point: a three day PUV strike or the government cutting down 30% of PUVs plying their on a daily basis. While some of the private vehicle owners out there shout "Hurrah! No traffic!", a lot of the commuting public would not be reaching their destinations. Some of the effects are: production slowdowns/delays because workers are not able to report to work, children being left behind class subjects because they were not able to go to school or being late for school, people loosing potential job placements because they did not arrive at interviews, a poor pregnant housewife loosing her child because she had no PUV to flag down and so on.

However, I do agree that something must be done to ease traffic along major thoroughfares and that something has to be done to improve traffic discipline of all motorists, regardless if one drives a private vehicle or a PUV.

If and when an improved coding scheme would be applied in the future, I think is should be applicable to all types of vehicles on the road - no exceptions.

very well said

[mazdamazda]

IMO... for PUVs - maybe we can implement a selective or reverse UVVRP scheme for them.

Instead of a 7AM to 10AM / 3PM to 7PM ban window, maybe we can ban them instead from 10AM to 3PM instead. This is considered a lean time for passengers.

[IMm29]

I think the current color-coding (UVVRP - number coding) scheme has outlived its usefulness. If the MMDA leadership did not see it as a temporary solution to our traffic mess, then they've been grossly mistaken. Motorists have worked around by acquiring/borrowing another vehicle, thus being able to use the road on coding days. Plus there's the 10-3 window in many cities.

I think a slight reduction in the number of PUVs might help in the long run. There are quite a few PUVs running empty even during rush hours. But more importantly, traffic enforcement must be improved, and these should cover public and private motorists. Erring public transport drivers should no longer be excused from traffic violations on account of their "just trying to earn a living." At the same time, private motorists who behave as badly or even worse than public transport drivers should be punished accordingly. Of course, there's that relative of a politician, in-law of a general, etc, but let that be the exception to the rule rather than the rule itself.

[XTO]

naku, why discriminate? if they are undisciplined, strict implementation of laws should be enforced. Besides, public transport have higher occupancy per car space, read: they carry more passengers at given vehicle space therefore, more space efficient for the road. imagine meron lahat sari sariling sasakyan ang mga public commuters, di ba baka di na umandar mga sasakyan sa kalsada?

[kpy555]

The "color coding" scheme helps reduce vehicle volume, but I think restructuring the whole public transportation system in our country will truly help in solving the traffic problem.

I can just imagine if we have a public transport system same as in Hong Kong or Singapore, more people will be encouraged to commute. If commuting is very convenient and safe, a lot of people driving may consider taking the bus or train instead of driving their cars since they can do away with parking hassles, fees, stress and costs of fuel. In this way, I believe the volume of vehicles will be further reduced.

There are also a lot of things on the road to fix - stoplight timing, damaged roads, schemes, etc. In registration and licensing - stricter policies (e.g. no garage, no permit to buy a car), stricter screening and harder tests for applicants, etc.

But still, all boils down to DISCIPLINE. Every single one of us should have this.

[AnuVaYan]

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But still, all boils down to DISCIPLINE. Every single one of us should have this.

True, everyone... Including the commuters. Dapat din may fine sa mga taong kung saan saan sumasakay at bumababa. Parang problema ng itlog at manok yan e, kung saan saan humihinto yung mga PUV kasi kung saan saan din pumapara yung mga tao. Kung hindi nila paparahan, may ibang makakakuha ng pasahero. Yung mga commuters naman since alam nila na hihinto yung PUV kahit saan, taking advantage naman. So para ayos pareho na lang may fine. Sarap ng buhay ng taga huli nyan, dami makokotongan.
Habang tumatagal, hindi lang nagiging less effective yung color coding scheme, nagiging cause pa ito ng paglala ng paninikip ng kalsada. E kasi mga tao para makaiwas sa coding bibili ng additional car kahit walang garahe. Tapos itatambak sa gilid ng kalsada. Dito lang sa amin nagsisikipan na yung mga kalsada sa dami ng mga naka tambak na sasakyan.

[LexTer]

imo, para talaga mabawasan traffic ay gawin nilang literal ang ibig sabihin ng color coding just imagine gaano kaluwag ang kalye kapag walang white and silver cars for a day

waaaaaaaaaaa....... wag! 70% of our cars are white. mahilig kami sa puti. pwede silver na lang?

[raikkah]

RUSH hours?????

What if, I shift na lang natin ang pasok ng mga tao.... bakit ba tayo 8:00-5:00 lagi....

1. I shift natin sa night duty lahat ng empleyado ng gobyerno.... Unang una sila ang madaming sasakayan at meron pang allowance para patakbuhin ang mga auto nila.... Di nyo ba pansin na pag walang pasok ang gobyerno eh maluwag traffic??
schedule ng bangko is parang shopping mall din, so ang pasok nila ay tanghali na halos,
just imagine, if you need to do transaction with the bank or with the government... di na kailangan mag half day sa work...

maximized pa natin ang use ng roads natin...

2. Kahit komontra si Claire dela fuente... dapat meron unified bus route.... mag dispatch lang ng units pag kailangan na.... Puro kasi kita ang gusto nila..
wala ng essence yung customer service..
In most developed countries that I've been to, yung city buses nila ay naka setup na mas madaming nakatayo kesa naka upo.... No need for a seat if you are going to travel faster diba...
then, kahit magkasabay dalawang bus, na same route... hindi makikipagunahan yan sa pasahero.

3. for the traffic enforcers, They should install a small camera that should record all apprehension that they will do... This is for the protection of both the officer and the public... since what is recorded should be reviewed every day. So wala na dapat na kotong dito....

4. For the private cars naman.... no need to limit the cars per household... but limit the number of cars your house can hold.... Ipagbawal totally ang pag rehistro ng kotse kung walang paparadahan ang mga kotse nila... Ginagawang parking lot ang mga kalye so during rush hours, hindi ma gamit ang mga side streets kasi madaming naka park...

Kung may political will lang mga hinayupak na taga gobyerno na yan... madaling isa batas ito....kaya lang.... sila mismo affected..

5. Mga Trisikol sa highway... being poor is not an excuse... its for their safety also... Kahit ng yung mga TODA-toda sa mga ibang kalye dapat tangalin na rin... sila lang nagpapasikip ng daan... Palitan sila ng jeep....
-sa ibang bansa wala namang ganyan.. lakad kami... or taxi kung ayaw mapagod...
Lalong nagiging tamad mga pilipino dahil sa kanila....Pinagkakakitaan ang katamaran ng mga pinoy.

6. Or make it similar to singapore... pag rush hour,,, may bayad ang paggamit ng major roads...... sa parang sinabing... kung ayaw mong magbayad. use the side streets.. bawat sasakyan ay may E-Pass..

pero hindi na talaga natin kailangan yang mga yan... basta bat resposable tayo sa mga ginagawa natin, at alam natin kung nakaka perwisyo na tayo...
Sana abutan pa natin ang panahon na maging ganun ang mga Pilipino...

[jeffrocks]

Naalala ko tuloy ang lagi kong tanong sa mga puv drivers,sabi ko'pards kailan kayo mag-istrike sana mahaba-habang strike? sabi nya bakit? sagot ko,'para lumuwag naman ang kalye...sabi sa akin 'tado he he he

[kpy555]

waaaaaaaaaaa....... wag! 70% of our cars are white. mahilig kami sa puti. pwede silver na lang?

Kawawa kami hehe! Lahat ng auto namin silver!

Sorry OT

[BlueJazz]

As mentioned by oldblue "Gawin salary system mga PUV drivers".

Other suggestions..

1.) Wag muna mangurakot ang mga kawatan sa gobyerno at isipin muna ang bayan. Gumawa ng isang matinding infrastructure para masupportahan ang problema sa city kagaya ng traffic.

Infra like - unmanned/intelligent traffic lights.
- well paved roads with CLEAR lanes.
- sapat na gamit sa mga traffic cops para hulihin ang mga bwisit na motorista.
- centralized database info para sa mga drivers nila mala DMV at HP ng US.
- traffic signages.

Taasan ang traffic fines iyong tipong 4k pag beating the red light, 10k pag one way. Pero syempre dapat lahat na ng kinakailangan na infrastructure ay nakahanda bago iimplement ang mga matitinding fines.

Kung di lang kasi nangungurakot ang mga taong nakaupo sa gobyerno at inuuna ang bayan marami sana tayong gamit para masupportahan ang mga ganitong mga bagay. Talamak na talaga ang pagnanakaw.

Tignan nyo peeps. Meron naman dito sa atin may mga bonuses na natatanggap diba? At syempre kung may bonus may tax. Tignan ninyo kung ilan iyong nakaltas sa tax, langya ang laki diba? Bonus pa lang yan, paano na iyong mga 15/30 na sweldo pati VAT. Maraming pera dito!!! Ninanakaw lang!

Mahirap talaga tumira sa isang bansang maraming mahirap. Ang kawawa lagi e ang middle class na automatic ang kaltas ng tax habang ang mga mayayaman panay ang lagay sa BIR.. Ang tax natin napupunta lang sa bulsa ng politiko at pagpakain sa mga kababayan nating ayaw magtrabaho..

Agree ako dito.. taasan ang multa sa lahat ng traffic offense.. at pwede ba.. hulihin nyo naman ang mga PUV.. ang mga traffic enforcer kasi alam nilang walang pera ang driver kaya walang huli yan mga yan.. panay private lang ang pinupuntirya .. kaya nagiging lalong abusado ang mga driver..

[raikkah]

Kawawa kami hehe! Lahat ng auto namin silver!

Sorry OT

accept lang natin pag ganun nga... hirap kasi sarili lang lagi iniisip... tulad ng mga pulitiko....

kaya hindi makapaggawa ng magandang batas kasi may personal interest lagi...


hmmmm..

[kpy555]

accept lang natin pag ganun nga... hirap kasi sarili lang lagi iniisip... tulad ng mga pulitiko....

kaya hindi makapaggawa ng magandang batas kasi may personal interest lagi...


hmmmm..

Hi Raikkah at sorry kung sasabihin kong hindi ko gusto yung comment mo. It's like your implying na makasarili ako (or kami), which we are not. Sorry din kung mali pagka-intindi ko sa post mo pero hindi talaga maganda dating sa akin.

Kung nangyari man na literal "color-coding" ang gawin ng government to reduce traffic volume, then I will still happily oblige. Nagkataon lang na silver lahat ng auto namin now at marami kaming biyahe (to work, delivery, etc.) kaya hassle talaga sa amin pag isang buong araw lahat ng auto di puwede gamitin. Pilay operations ng negosyo. Imagine also if all white vehicles are banned for a day, halos lahat ng negosyong may L300 na white ay hindi magagamit. Mapipilayan talaga ang mga negosyo kahit paano.

Nevertheless, agree naman ako sa sinabi mo na maraming poltikong may self-interests kaya mabagal umusad ang pag-unlad ng bansa natin.

Peace Bro and I hope this is just a misunderstanding.

[gaboy]

imo, para talaga mabawasan traffic ay gawin nilang literal ang ibig sabihin ng color coding just imagine gaano kaluwag ang kalye kapag walang white and silver cars for a day

payag ako dyan kahit na white ang kotse ko pero gawin nilang friday ang ban kasi 0 ang dulo ng plaka ko e

[CaMoTe!!!]

pag private vehicle kasi, at work day, most likely ang time lang na nasa kalye yan e yung time na papunta siya sa office.. the rest of the day, nakapark na yan, at di na gumagamit ng road space... gagamit lang ulit ng road space yan pag nag travel na siya pauwi... unlike PUVs na maghapon nasa kalye, puno o hindi puno...