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    Ambulance VS Jeepney - what is your take on this accident?

    -notice the traffic lights for the jeepney's side.

    VIDEO LINK:
    Last edited by ghosthunter; January 9th, 2013 at 05:47 PM. Reason: Ayun! ... same lang pala linking videos from youtube.

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    ^Mali si ambulance... naghahanap buhay lang si jeepney driver kaya may karapatan siyang i-beat ang traffic signal at huwag pansinin ang emergency vehicle.

    Seriously, the emergency vehicle has right-of-way. The ambulance driver should have just been a little more cautious before running through the intersection.

    I don't know how to post FB vids either...

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    may siren naman siguro yung ambulance. imposibleng hindi nya maririnig

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    may siren naman siguro yung ambulance. imposibleng hindi nya maririnig

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    may siren naman siguro yung ambulance. imposibleng hindi nya maririnig
    I agree, kung gumagana yun, yari talaga jeepney, Plus kung titignan mo, naghahabol talaga si jeepney sa green light. Dyan rota niyan, malamang alam niya malapit na mag-red kaya ayun, "typical" ugaling mali, trying to accelerate instead of slowing down sa intersection.

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    ang liwanag ng cctv parang hd.

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    ang liwanag ng cctv parang hd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanboi View Post
    ang liwanag ng cctv parang hd.
    at present on different angles kaya kuhang kuha ang aksyon.

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    Stupid Ambulance driver. That guy should be sued for reckless imprudence. While it is correct that EMS vehicles have extraordinary right of way, I believe this can't possibly be absolute (I'll ask The lawyer later).

    Knowing he's coming from the stopped portion of the intersection, he should have exercised diligence (and effin' common sense) that there's this possibility that the vehicle(s) in the green lighted lane would hit them.

    The jeepney, being Public Enemy no.1 will probably be crucified but the fact remains that there's NO WAY he could have possibly seen the ambulance nor heard the ambulance. This is a good test for doppler shift calculations though.

    I wonder if a Japanese (i.e. Toyota Grandia) / American brand (i.e. Ford E150) would also roll in that scenario. OF course, this is a china brand van so ridiculous failure is always expected.

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    emergency vehicles have right of way, kahit counterflow pa yan. kahit na green light pa sa jeepney wala siya laban (forget the yellow, yellow is "warning" but it still is "go" until it turns red).

    ang mali lang ng ambulance e dapat, since mag-cross siya ng intersection at red light sa kanya, e slow dapat siya hindi yung i-assume nya na naririnig ng lahat yung wang-wang nya.

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    ang ganda ng camera linaw ng kuha

    nasa ambulance ang right of way pero hindi sa lahat ng oras, tulad niyan madadagdagan pa ang dadalhin sa ospital...

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    Ok sana kung naka chedeng si manong jeepney driver, pwede nyan sabihin na di nya narinig ang siren ng ambulance. Yellow light pa pala ang loko.

    Caution ka agad dapat pag narining mo na ang siren ng ambulance.

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    napansin nyo yung naka-bike sa pedestrian lane? bilis din umiwas ni loko ano?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    napansin nyo yung naka-bike sa pedestrian lane? bilis din umiwas ni loko ano?
    hahaha. ang galing. alertong alerto

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    ang mali lang ng ambulance e dapat, since mag-cross siya ng intersection at red light sa kanya, e slow dapat siya hindi yung i-assume nya na naririnig ng lahat yung wang-wang nya.
    Usually din, pag yung mga ambulance ng mga LGU, walang alam din yung driver pag dating sa safety. Parang jeepney driver na ipinamaneho lang ng ambulance. Yung ibang nakakasabay ko pag rush hour sa EDSA, kahit hindi ko sinasadya, nauunahan ko pa rin sa traffic dahil sige-sige lang sila magmaneho at tuluyang maiipit pag napamali ng pili ng lane.

    In comparison, yung mga private na ambulance providers, may protocols and etiquette na sinusundan pa rin yung karamihan na nakakasabay ko. If they counterflow and run through intersections, may diskarte pa rin.

    OT: Talo ng MMDA video yung mga action scenes sa pelikula. Walang sinabi si Bourne Legacy.
    Last edited by vinj; January 9th, 2013 at 03:54 PM.

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    JEEPNEY ang tama dito, kasi Mahirap yung Drayber.

    Ganun sa Pinas.

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    e ambulance nga ng lgu kasi. newly promoted siguro yung driver, dating janitor sa munisipyo.

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    e ambulance nga ng lgu kasi. newly promoted siguro yung driver, dating janitor sa munisipyo.

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    nakita ko yung ambulance na yan naka park sa mayapis kahapon. was wondering kung bakit wasak na wasak siya.

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    eto yung sinasabi kong slow down on intersections.

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    Jeepney driver: "Di ko narinig yung ambulansya at di ko napansin na yellow light na pala..."

    I wonder if the idiotic PUV driver is still plying the streets.

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    As much as I want to side with the ambulance, I couldn't. The jeepney driver was definitely gunning it but that's okay since the lights were green and the lights turned yellow when it was too late for him to make a full stop (knowing how weak their brakes are) and considering his speed baka mas devastating ang nangyari if he makes a full stop -- the passengers will go crazy about it, there could be a car at the back who was gunning it as well, and he might "overshoot" and be placed in an awkward position. It's understandable, really. I would say it was wrong if he crossed on a red light.. but nope, he didn't. He crossed on a "just-switched-to-yellow-light"

    Though the ambulance has the right of way, least he could do is be cautious since he knew that he was crossing a RED light at speed and it isn't impossible to have a car cross the intersection where the jeepney came from.

    If I were in the jeepney driver's shoes where my engine is probably louder than a crosswind at high speed, I might not hear the sirens from a distance where I could stop or slow down safely. Baka too late na rin nadinig ni jeepney driver.

    *Horsepower: China van? Isn't that a Nissan Elgrand?
    Last edited by renzo_d10; January 9th, 2013 at 08:40 PM.

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    I did not write the manual on emergency driving. But the maneuver done by the ambulance is a commonly employed maneuver both here and in other countries.

    The correct way to do it is (at least for the company I work for):
    1. Approach intersection with light and sirens
    2. Slow down
    3. Switch siren tone (usually from wail to yelp) or hit the air horn button. The change in siren tone breaks the monotony and should catch the attention of other road users. Sometimes we also speak over the public address system to request all vehicles to stop or let us proceed.
    4. When clear, proceed.
    5. Switch back to wail tone

    Point is, when you hear sirens and you can't fix on where its coming from, it never hurts to slow down and reassess your surroundings. Manong jeepney driver was obviously not paying attention when he gunned it on a yellow light.

    And as per report, the ambulance had a patient and was fully staffed at the time. No way to confirm this from my end.

    However, motorists should also yield to an ambulance without a patient on board as a lot of us also respond to calls and without any established idea of the patient's conditions, we have to get there asap.

    Most government ambulance drivers, such as the one in the video,also have very little training. They're the same guys who insist on using the hazard lamps in an emergency. Kuya, kahit naka sirena at emergency lights ka, you still have to signal your intention to turn. Apparently, hindi nila alam ito.

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