LTO Cainta: Do not deal with Fixers outside - Deal with Fixers "inside"

[healthnut]

I saw a thread in the forums here saying positive things about LTO Cainta and decided to apply for a driver's license there. Upon arriving there, you will notice that there are no fixers pestering to give you "value added" services. And once inside you will always hear the LTO Chief using their PA system to warn people not to deal with the fixers outside their office. Hmmm... so far so good! Seems this place is real legit.

Every person applying for a license needs to do a drug test and a medical test. There was an accredited Drug Test and Medical Clinic there. For 400 pesos they will do the medical and drug test for you. You will be asked to give a urine sample. Strange thing is, I got results from the drug test within 5 minutes and I never saw them open my urine sample bottle. Magic! At least for the medical check, the doctor tested my eyesight for nearsightedness.

Then the next step is to take the written exam. While waiting I chatted up some guys and they told me that they paid somebody inside to make them pass the written and practical test. One said he paid 1500 and another mentioned he paid 2500 pesos. They said they paid LTO employees inside to arrange this.

Well, the test started and it was 40 questions - multiple choice type of test. I estimate if it takes 30 seconds to answer each question, it will take 20 minutes to finish the test. But lo and behold! Some submitted their answer sheets in less than 10 minutes! I guess they were geniuses or speed readers.

Later on, I asked these geniuses how they managed to complete the test in less than 10 minutes. Well, they said when they received their answer sheet, it was already pre-answered. Hence, no need to answer anything. Aaay, what a beautiful way to make money! Answer sheets for sale.

Out of 27 who took the test, 10 of us passed. 6 of the 10 were the geniuses who finished their test in less than 10 minutes. The rest of us were legit.

Off to the practical test, 1 of the 4 legit passers of the written test told me she is only applying for a motorcycle driver's license - restriction code 1. Some assistants of LTO overheard our conversation and told her she can apply for restriction code 2 as well. But she said, "but sir hindi po ako marunong magmaneho ng kotse". Their answer was - "walang problema yun!". Turns out, if you give them 400 pesos, they will let you pass the practical driving test even if you do not take the actual driving test, EVEN IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!!!! I kind of though at this point that I can get a blind man licensed here for Professional Driver's License.

The 6 geniuses who did the 10 minute written test quickly all disappeared and their papers were quickly transferred for payment and eventual release of their new license. The 4 of us were left there waiting to be given the test. But first they charged us 150 pesos for the practical test fee. No receipt was given and we were told that they did not have a car and they need to rent one for us to use for the test. Pero walang receipt! We waited from 11am to 12 noon. No test. The LTO staff took a lunch break. The main guy giving the practical test left during lunch driving his shiny Mitsubishi Pajero. Hmmm... seems he gets paid well by LTO. He came back at 1:30 pm and all he did was handle a bunch of papers and sent them back for processing. Still no test for us poor guys. Then around 3:00pm, he decided to do something about us. He had two posts placed one car length apart and told us we should do parallel parking. He did a demo using a battered and old Mitsubushi Lancer and he managed to hit the post while parking it in.

Hehe, I sort of felt he was psyching us out. Trying to break our resolve not to do this test the legit way. The posts were really very near each other. There is no way you can get that car in there. Well we did not give up. He chose the youngest guy in our group to do the first test. Post got hit front and rear. That of course was expected. So he failed. But then, the Mitsubishi Pajero Driving LTO Test Personnel called him over and said - "pare mag-usap tayo dito". Mukhang "payback time" na. It cost the guy 300 pesos to pass the test. One by one, same result. Failed, hit the post, car too far from the gutter etc etc. Kasi naman "mission impossible" na parallel parking ang test nila. Guaranteed to assure no one passes, not unless the 4 wheels of their test car can turn a full 45 degrees and the you slide in the car.

So, my conclusion is, if you want to legitimately acquire a driver's license from LTO Cainta, it's like climbing the Mount Everest. If you do not deal with their "internal" fixers i.e. the LTO employees, you would find it hard to get a license.

In the end, I realized why the LTO Chief keeps on warning about dealing with fixers inside. He wanted to make sure all the "fixing" is done inside and all "fixing" revenue goes in and no middle men involved. Aaay, I wonder how they can use this dirty money to feed their family. Kapaaaal!

[_Qwerty_]

Dapat to sa goonsquad..

[ghosthunter]

Moved to GOON SQUAD HQ subforum

[Taurus]

This is a good investigative report for 'Imbestigador' of GMA 7, 'XXX' of ABS-CBN, or BITAG of Tulfo!

:police:

[rst619]

Di lang sa Cainta rampant yan. halos lahat ng LTO offices ganyan modus sa exam.

[ghosthunter]

[The Big Ticket]

which reminds me... i need to go to LTO tomorrow... lost license... been a long time since I've been inside. Any tips?

[tidus1203]

Galing nga sa LTO. Sobrang well oiled machine yung fixing industry sa loob. Very efficient, from the test booklets that already have the right answers, to the checker who already knows you will pass, to the photo-taking, to the actual creation of the license. 10/10. Now if the government can be just as efficient on doing LEGIT stuff....

[healthnut]

which reminds me... i need to go to LTO tomorrow... lost license... been a long time since I've been inside. Any tips?

Bro, I suggest you give a call to the LTO office you plan to go to and ask them the procedure and requirements for lost license cases. And ask them if there is any cut off time for filing your papers. In this way hindi masasayang ang lakad mo or at least minimize the number of times you need to go back to them.

The phone nos. of different LTO offices are in the LTO website www.lto.gov.ph.

Good luck! Ingat sa buwaya.

[Bolkow]

kaya sa kalye ang daming pasaway na driver, paano sa LTO pa lang ang dami na kabalastugan nangyayari

[ab_initio]

which reminds me... i need to go to LTO tomorrow... lost license... been a long time since I've been inside. Any tips?

bring your affidavit of loss, Sir.

[zman]

I grew up in cainta, but got my my license at Marikina LTO over 16yrs ago i think. No problems, all legit at that time. Only once did I renew at Cainta LTO, extremely ineffecient. Renewed everywhere else but. Lately, it has been convenient to renew in a mall eventhough the Cainta LTO is near my office.

Tama po si ab_initio, you need to get an affidavid of loss to get the license replaced.

[kenzie]

This is a good investigative report for 'Imbestigador' of GMA 7, 'XXX' of ABS-CBN, or BITAG of Tulfo!

:police:

good point .... but in the end "Ningas Kugon din" atleast have them exposed

[ab_initio]

^^a new law has just been implemented among the perceived corrupt offices in the country, which include the bureau of customs and LTO. for your guidance, ask the frontline officers, where they have displayed their citizen's charter. usually, the citizen's charter is located near the entrance hall of any government offices. the citizen's charter is aimed at preventing or curbing the incidence of red tape or fixing with the office procedures.

in the citizen's charter, you will know the following:

1. the procedure to obtain a particular service;
2. the person/s responsible for each step;
3. the maximum time to conclude the process;
4. the document/s to be presented by the customer, if necessary;
5. the amount of fees, if necessary; and
6. the procedure for filing complaints.

[RED FLAG IS ON, HENCE, BE ALERTED]:if any government employees/officials ask you additional requirements not listed in the citizen's charter, ihampas mo sa mukha niya ang billboard, este, ask the officer of the day the reason for the inclusion of the documentary requirement which is not listed in the citizen's charter. in case of doubt, (hehehe...di ko pala dala ang telephone numbers...) log on to:

www.csc.gov.ph

----or------

www.ombudsman.gov.ph

these are the main implementing agencies of RA 9485 or the Anti-Red Tape Act of 2007. let's give this country a chance to regain its grandeur. sama sama po tayong sugpuin ang red tape. basta pag di nila ma explain ihampas na lang ang billboard kung saan nakasulat ang citizen's charter. samasama din natin buhatin to...hehehe... di ko pala na save yung number. bukas na lang di ko dala e...

kidding aside, let's bust the Big C!!!ganito o:

[healthnut]

^^a new law has just been implemented among the perceived corrupt offices in the country, which include the bureau of customs and LTO. for your guidance, ask the frontline officers, where they have displayed their citizen's charter. usually, the citizen's charter is located near the entrance hall of any government offices. the citizen's charter is aimed at preventing or curbing the incidence of red tape or fixing with the office procedures.

in the citizen's charter, you will know the following:

1. the procedure to obtain a particular service;
2. the person/s responsible for each step;
3. the maximum time to conclude the process;
4. the document/s to be presented by the customer, if necessary;
5. the amount of fees, if necessary; and
6. the procedure for filing complaints.

[RED FLAG IS ON, HENCE, BE ALERTED]:if any government employees/officials ask you additional requirements not listed in the citizen's charter, ihampas mo sa mukha niya ang billboard, este, ask the officer of the day the reason for the inclusion of the documentary requirement which is not listed in the citizen's charter. in case of doubt, (hehehe...di ko pala dala ang telephone numbers...) log on to:

www.csc.gov.ph

----or------

www.ombudsman.gov.ph

these are the main implementing agencies of RA 9485 or the Anti-Red Tape Act of 2007. let's give this country a chance to regain its grandeur. sama sama po tayong sugpuin ang red tape. basta pag di nila ma explain ihampas na lang ang billboard kung saan nakasulat ang citizen's charter. samasama din natin buhatin to...hehehe... di ko pala na save yung number. bukas na lang di ko dala e...

kidding aside, let's bust the Big C!!!ganito o:

Thanks for the info. So far I have not seen this in the government offices I have been to. Seems they are still kind of slow in implementing this. However, I think this is a big move in the right direction.

Elimination of red tape leads to less time dealing with the government agencies for our transactions and would reduce the temptation of offering padulas money to speed things up for our fellow citizens who are in a hurry.

I hope we also do our part as citizens and not be a partner to the corruption practices by offering Customs people bribes so we can reduce customs duties, bribing LTO personnel because we're trying to get a license while we are not qualified yet in terms of driving skills or age requirements and basically trying to work around the rules and regulations by offering bribes.

[ab_initio]

hoping against hope that one day we will soon have a paperless transaction and we just transact online...

[Monster01]

may idea kyu sa requirement (s) ng student permit? pano ba sistema kumuha ng student permit sa cainta lto?

[obet_carlos]

bro ganyan talaga sa lahat ng government offices.. LTO, BIR, etc.. kung hindi ka maglalagay, papatagalin nila, hindi talaga nila gagawin.. lalo na sa BIR, ang daming reasons bat hindi pa tapos.. nung kumuha ako ng license, binayaran ng mom ko.. hindi ko alam at that time.. when i was taking the written exam, may dot sa questionnaire yung sagot.. pero binasa ko pa din.. minamali ka nila intentionally dun sa ibang sagot pero sure pass ka.. tapos hindi na ako nag pratical exam.. hindi ko nga alam na may practical exam pa, nalaman ko lang nung sinamahan ko kumuha ng license gf ko 5 years after..

[foresterx]

apparently for 1,500-2,500 all they need is your picture taken.