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    #21
    OK, this is a healthy Argument, wag lang tayo lumagpas,
    Mazda's Defintion is siguro spurt of the moment and Phil.based observation. which has valid points
    Macky's as you can see well searched and everything...as very much have a point!!!

    ang mali talaga dito is the Stupid Phil Taxation of SUVs, (gone are the 4x4drivetrain) that's why honda found a loophole of bringing the Gen2 CRV here at an AUV price (hindi ba kayo nasiyahan dun???)

    kahit saan korte natin dalin CRV is always Classified as an SUV (small or mid)

    now the question hangs with the new tax scheme, will HOnda Phils bring back the its 4wheeldrive of the CRV or continue the 4x2???

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    #22
    :hippie: easy dude! just for discussion lang naman ito... masyado lang cguro tayo nadala... :D

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    #23
    Originally posted by mazdamazda
    :hippie: easy dude! just for discussion lang naman ito... masyado lang cguro tayo nadala... :D
    Anong easy easy???? Hehehe...... You've got PM

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    #24
    teka bakit ang everest?? AUV sya dba??gagawa ba ang ford ng everest dito sa pinas? kala ko thailand or indonesia un gagawin... ito tanong lang ah hehehe

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    #25
    everest is classified yata as an AUV, pero with a 4x4 model ok di ba!

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    #26
    >>badkuk::: Now, you see? Posting a misleading title to your query opens a can of worms.

    ? di naman misleading ah...sori na! Does this mean me away na nsa next EB? Mag Tekken na lang kayo! B).

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    #27
    yeapp sir kimpoy AUV nga sya... pero ang alam ko kasi dito lang iaassemble pero d dito galing ang parts. pero im not sure naman.

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    #28
    >>badkuk::: Now, you see? Posting a misleading title to your query opens a can of worms.

    cge na nga, blame it on me na, wag lang kayo mag away...

    actually, i was sent by rival forums to destroy tsikot.com by asking misleading questions...and i am doing well...bwa ha ha ha ha ha

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    #29
    Originally posted by Macky
    Unlike the USDM CR-V which uses Japan parts and is built in Japan, our local CR-Vs uses local parts for their suspension, transmission and body. Engine na lang yata ang completely built in sa Japan. FYI, the Philippines is the leading source of Honda's transmissions distributed in Asia (not sure yung outside Asia).
    are you saying local parts? where it was produced then? if you're into steel business you will know that all materials was importing in Asia mostly Japan.

    We knew for a fact that National Steel Corp.(NASCO) closed last 1998(correct me if im wrong) who used to be the solely manufacturer in d phils.

    Now my question would be if CRV's uses local parts where is the source of their materials being use by them. For sure they also importing their materials.

    No argument just a clarification.

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    #30
    Originally posted by rapeez
    No argument just a clarification.
    quite possibly imported raw materials, but locally manufactured

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    #31
    Originally posted by rapeez
    are you saying local parts? where it was produced then? if you're into steel business you will know that all materials was importing in Asia mostly Japan.

    We knew for a fact that National Steel Corp.(NASCO) closed last 1998(correct me if im wrong) who used to be the solely manufacturer in d phils.

    Now my question would be if CRV's uses local parts where is the source of their materials being use by them. For sure they also importing their materials.

    No argument just a clarification.
    Here's a link to RP becoming Honad's Transmission Hub

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    #32
    macky, cnt open the link. pls. check. thx.

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    #33
    Oooops, sorry about that..... I guess the site is down.

    Anyway, here's a write up dated 08/21/03:
    Honda starts transmission production in Philippines

    Here's another one that tells about the Philippine-made transmission being exported:
    Honda builds Philippine transmission plant for export markets

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    #34
    badkuk::: Don't take it too literally, the peeps are merely stating the fact that Honda made a wrong decision then. :D


    Peace!

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    Originally posted by mazdamazda
    here's my definition:

    AUV -> low-end to middle market
    (revo, xwind, adventure, crv)

    SUV -> high-end market
    (vitara, rav4, forester, escape, x-trail, paj, patrol, trooper, etc)

    what could be more simpler than that?
    Medyo hindi ata magandang pakinggan ito.

    Q: What if there is a rich who doesn't want those Suv's but settles for a Revo simply because he doesn't need a 4wd or he wants a low-profile image?

    Is he still classified as a low-end to middle market?

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    #36
    Originally posted by FrankDrebin
    ...Q: What if there is a rich who doesn't want those Suv's but settles for a Revo simply because he doesn't need a 4wd or he wants a low-profile image?

    Is he still classified as a low-end to middle market?
    The rich owner will not be classified as low-middle end but the vehicle sure is counted for. May extra pa sya para sa abubot na gusto nyang ilagay. :D

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    Kailangan bang i-classify ang isang vehicle according to the buyer's status?

    Pati ba naman sa sasakyan me diskriminasyon?


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    #38
    No, you don't have to classify the buyer.

    I wouldn't put it in a discriminating way with vehicles. More on categorizing it where it actually fits in. :D

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    #39
    every vehicle naman eh may target market.. i think what mazdamazda is saying is un ung target ng mga AUV and SUV.

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    #40
    Honda did not make a mistake as far as classifying the CRV as an AUV. Diba bentang benta CRV? It was a good management move in my opinion.

    AUVs are given tax breaks. Plain and simple. Buying an AUV doesnt mean you're a poor bloke. I have friends who can afford to live in Baranggay Ayala Alabang yet drive Revos. and besides, when was the last time an AUV cost nearly 1M?

    AFAIK, the latest definition of the AUV is that it could seat 10 people. THis is unlike the original definition of the AUV na filipino designed.... even if only in part. Remember the Tamaraw, the Cimarron and the Fiera?

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