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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    In my case Better safe than sorry... Tiis muna for 3 years before any installation or additional Mods... Hirap kausap mga dealer... Imagine installation of fog lights 6 hours bago natapos... Sa Banawe wala pa 1 hour tapos yan...

    Dun naman sa hindi nakikita yung ginagawa yun din ang takot ko baka palitpalit na... kaya wala akong gagawin sa oto or add mod hangang 3 years.... hehehe

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    #22
    Any mod na wala sa specs or is not sanctioned by the dealer will void warranty strictly speaking = )

    Some dealerships are not that strict though and nakukuha sa usapan hehe.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by gwapito69
    ang void ng warranty e kung ang cause ng sira e dahil sa mods na nilagay mo. hindi nila pwedeng i void ang warranty ng transmission kung naglagay ka ng aftermarket rims. o kaya e di nila pwedeng ivoid ang warranty ng electrical ng oto mo kung naglagay ka ng cold air intake. same thing goes with pagnagpalit ka ng aftermarket exhaust di nila pwedeng ivoid and warranty ng engine pero kung naglagay ka ng aftermarket cams sa engine mo and your engine breaks down then yung warranty mo e void oks ba yung explanation ko?
    some aftermarket parts wont void your warranty. like nissan, you can install S spec "NISMO" suspension and not void the warranty of any of the suspension parts.
    bosing, dito lang sa atin yan...malakas ang kapit ng SEMA kaya napatupad yang legislation na yan. sa ibang countries sa palagay ko anything goes basta nasa contrata.

    ot: i just wasted 5 minutes of my life staring at your sig

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    #24
    Hi,

    Here's another scenario. WIll this avoid warranty too?

    Most dealer suggest a maintenance schedule. Every 5000Km checkup. However, if for whatever reason, you missed this schedule, and instead went on the 10,000Km. No mods done. Will this still void it?

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    #25
    how about the brake pads? void din ba?

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    #26
    During one of my PMS at a toyota dealer, I did'nt use their toyota motor oil. I had my own oil I bought from Total. Sabi ba naman ng SA, kung may masisira sa makina bec of the oil void daw warranty. Pero recently at Isuzu and Ford, I use my own oil which is mobil and they don't mention anything. I just tell them I brought along my own oil and they just cross out the engine oil on my PMS. Walang cheap comments about warranty

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by zero
    how about the brake pads? void din ba?
    sa normal wear, di yan covered ng warranty. replace lang nila yan kung defective yung brake pads (cracked or worn unevenly due to a problem with the caliper).

    syete...i have a feeling i misinterpreted the question...oh well.
    Last edited by wren; February 10th, 2006 at 12:00 PM.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by cardo
    During one of my PMS at a toyota dealer, I did'nt use their toyota motor oil. I had my own oil I bought from Total. Sabi ba naman ng SA, kung may masisira sa makina bec of the oil void daw warranty. Pero recently at Isuzu and Ford, I use my own oil which is mobil and they don't mention anything. I just tell them I brought along my own oil and they just cross out the engine oil on my PMS. Walang cheap comments about warranty
    They won't mention it, but they do mark it down, because it's still a warranty concern. I asked about it before na. Since I'm following a 5000km sched, I figured it wasn't worth it to go for outside synths for a while anyway. (still have 65,000km on my warranty... yikes! )

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #29
    You should follow your PMS or else they can and will use that against any claim... Kahit nga lumampas ka lang ng 5KM sa sked mo baka ibato nila yan sayo pag may claim ka e...

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by nugundam93
    i asked our service advisor sa mitsubishi fairview, using biodiesel WILL NOT void the warranty. pero i have been hearing conflicting opinions from other casas about biodiesel, some say it would void the warranty.
    Looks like the car manufacturers have made an official (carefully-worded) statement re how using biodiesel affects warranty:

    CAMPI cautious on use of biofuel for motor vehicles
    By Marianne V. Go
    The Philippine Star 02/14/2006

    The Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines (CAMPI) is cautious on the use of biofuel for motor vehicles.

    In a statement, CAMPI said that "biofuel blends should be an alternative to current 100-percent petroleum-based fuel and not be mandatory."

    Consumers, CAMPI said, "should be given the choice on the type of fuel they want to use in their vehicles taking into account its quality, cost and availability."

    CAMPI made it clear that "the industry is not in a position to endorse any specific fuel type or brand of biofuel blends."

    CAMPI added that biofuel specifications "must conform with the Worldwide Fuel Charter (WWFC)."

    The WWFC standard was developed by global automobile and engine manufacturers as the fuel standard for motor vehicles including those with blends of ethanol for gasoline and fatty acid methyl esters (FAME) or vegetable derived esters (VDE) for diesel.

    At the very least, the CAMPI said, these bio-fuels must be accredited by the Department of Energy in accordance with the Philippine National Standard (PNS).

    Currently the WWFC provides that the allowable maximum blend by volume for ethanol on gasoline is at 10 percent, while that of FAME/VDE for diesel is at five percent.

    The standards adopted by the WWFC are based on technical studies conducted by the expert automotive engineers.

    The blend levels selected are optimal given the objective of maximizing alternative fuel usage while minimizing vehicle emission and ensuring performance, durability and efficiency of current engine design and fuel systems.

    Previously, in June 2004, CAMPI informed then Energy Secretary Vince Perez about the effect of alternative fuel use on motor vehicle warranties.

    CAMPI specificially cited that, "consistent with existing policy on warranty of motor vehicles, any problem that may be caused or proven to be attributable to the use of fuel or additives not recommended or approved by the manufacturer, after conducting an appropriate test and investigation, shall cause the warranty of such vehicle to be considered null and void."

    Covered within this purview are problems directly affecting the following systems or components of the motor vehicle: fuel tank and fuel lines; engine fuel pump and injector; combustion chambers; exhaust systems; and other related functional components."

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    #31
    CME blend conforms to international biofuels standards, says DOE
    By Donnabelle L. Gatdula
    The Philippine Star 02/20/2006

    http://philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200602200715.htm

    The Department of Energy (DOE) has asserted that the country’s coco-methyl ester (CME) blend conforms to international biofuels standards, particularly those prescribed by the World Wide Fuel Charter (WWFC).

    Energy Secretary Raphael P.M. Lotilla noted that the WWFC was signed by automobile and engine manufacturers around the globe, although he added that he welcomes the statement of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. (CAMPI) on the use of bio-fuels in the country.

    CAMPI has called on rigorous standards for bio-fuel use in the country, consistent with DOE’s thrust to promote strict compliance to the Philippine National Standards (PNS).

    "We are glad to hear CAMPI’s position on the use of bio-fuels in the Philippines, as it confirms that both the DOE and CAMPI have shared the same concern all along — that of looking after the consumers’ welfare as we make the crucial move from traditional to alternative fuels," Lotilla said.

    The PNS specifies the requirements that a product should meet to ensure quality. For fuels, compliance with safety and emission standards and acceptability with the vehicle industry are added as additional PNS requirements.

    Currently in place for bio-fuel use in the Philippines is the PNS for CME or coco-biodiesel. The PNS for other bio-fuels such as ethanol is set for endorsement to the Bureau of Product Standards of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI).

    So far, three companies have complied with the PNS and have been accredited by the DOE for CME production, namely: Chemrez Inc., Senbel Fine Chemicals, and Romtron.

    "When purchasing CME, consumers are advised to buy only those products with a Certificate of Fuel Additive Registration from the DOE to ensure the quality of the product they are purchasing," Lotilla said.

    Lotilla said CAMPI’s statement is also expected to encourage oil companies like Pilipinas Shell, Caltex, Petron, and Total, including new and independent oil players, to make bottled CME available at their stations.

    So far, Seaoil and Flying V have already given their full support to the government’s bio-fuels program. Seaoil has focused mainly on ethanol, while Flying V’s efforts have focused mainly on CME.

    Flying V recently held the groundbreaking of the first Bio-Fuels Center in the Philippines, located within the Philippine Coconut Authority (PCA) compound in Quezon City.

    The DOE, meanwhile, allayed CAMPI’s concerns over the effects of bio-fuels on motor vehicles, explaining that the CME and ethanol levels being pushed for mandatory blending are well within the recommended limit set by the WWFC.

    The DOE also cited an independent study conducted by the Nihon University of Japan which confirmed that any diesel engine can immediately use CME as an alternative fuel.

    Several tests performed on different CME blends constantly showed improved engine performance by increasing power and torque, which translates to more mileage, lesser fuel consumption and ultimately, more savings for consumers. Increased mileage using CME was noted at 1-2 kilometers per liter.

    Ethanol and CME have been shown to have a cleansing effect, which keeps fuel systems cleaner. This translates to better engine performance and reduced toxic emissions for vehicles, eventually leading to improved fuel economy and cleaner air.

    The DOE is working with Congress for the passage of the Bio-Fuels Bill, which seeks to mandate the use of one percent CME and five percent ethanol as fuel additives to diesel and gasoline, respectively. The WWFC standards set the limit at five percent for CME and 10 percent for ethanol.

    The mandatory blending of bio-fuels into diesel and gasoline is crucial to the government’s goal of achieving energy independence from imported petroleum products. It is vital to creating a sustained market for local manufacturers of bio-fuels, as well as local planters of the feedstock used for bio-fuels.

    The use of bio-fuels will also help reduce toxic vehicular emissions in compliance with the Clean Air Act.

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